Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7029|132 and Bush

For those of you who are not aware there has been a big controversy going on at Youtube since a member was banned (Nick Gisburne). He posted a video with some random quotes from the Qur'an. (His interpretation) I know Youtube technically has the right to ban him but the reason for banning him has changed a few times. I have just seen far worse than this guys video and I am puzzled.

As a protest many Youtube members have put it on their channel.

Here it is..

https://i18.tinypic.com/4dlopza.gif

Disagree with the motivation or content but seriously..worth account deletion?

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-19 08:03:52)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6998|Portland, OR, USA
what is the name of this song??! I've looked for ever!
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7118|Tampa Bay Florida
Well, the video itself is very, very biased.  I imagine a Muslim would be very offended by that.  If you can find some videos totally trashing Christianity, and compare the two situations, then I guess we could make a conclusion...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7029|132 and Bush

Spearhead wrote:

Well, the video itself is very, very biased.  I imagine a Muslim would be very offended by that.  If you can find some videos totally trashing Christianity, and compare the two situations, then I guess we could make a conclusion...
Youtube is full of all kinds of biased video's.

CommieChipmunk wrote:

what is the name of this song??! I've looked for ever!
I know it was in one of the Matrix. That's about it.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-17 21:34:48)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7073
well Quran has a lot of things to say about Jews they dont like Jews at all considering that Quran was written 600 years later after Jesus was crucified. Also some of the verses are translated correctly, but the problem with Quran is  people take the context of qurans meaning differnetly. Some extreme Muslims use this to recruit other to say see its written in Quran that you must protect Muslim faith and spread it by sword. On the other hand other Muslims would translate it another way.
Jello.01
Member
+46|7036|DFW, Texas

CommieChipmunk wrote:

what is the name of this song??! I've looked for ever!
Enigma Variations. Either movement 1 or 4. I have a recording of it, but it isn't doesn't have a high quality as the one in that video.

Or Clubbed to Death remix.

Last edited by Jello.01 (2007-03-17 21:48:58)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6957|Global Command

Spearhead wrote:

Well, the video itself is very, very biased.  I imagine a Muslim would be very offended by that.  If you can find some videos totally trashing Christianity, and compare the two situations, then I guess we could make a conclusion...
They get offended too easily. They want to be intolerant without fessing up to it.
Fenix14
scout rush kekeke ^___^
+116|6985|Brisbane, Aus

clubbed to death -Rob D, matrix soundtrack is the song

wonder if someone posted quotes about other religions, would that have the same reaction from youtube
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7118|Tampa Bay Florida

ATG wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Well, the video itself is very, very biased.  I imagine a Muslim would be very offended by that.  If you can find some videos totally trashing Christianity, and compare the two situations, then I guess we could make a conclusion...
They get offended too easily. They want to be intolerant without fessing up to it.
Different religion, different culture.  The video was grouping all Muslims into the type that would hijack a plane and fly it into a skyscraper.  That would be extemely insulting, if I were Muslim.  It's all about 9/11.. there are some very good Muslims out there and here you have some idiot saying they're all Jihadists.  If 9/11 hadn't have happened, I'm sure the situation would be different.

Last edited by Spearhead (2007-03-17 21:56:43)

Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|7103|Florida, United States

CommieChipmunk wrote:

what is the name of this song??! I've looked for ever!
I have the song in an MP3 format (dunno the actual name though)  Message me on Xfire at worldwartravis to get it if you would like it.

Last edited by Havok (2007-03-17 21:53:56)

blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7073

ATG wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Well, the video itself is very, very biased.  I imagine a Muslim would be very offended by that.  If you can find some videos totally trashing Christianity, and compare the two situations, then I guess we could make a conclusion...
They get offended too easily. They want to be intolerant without fessing up to it.
Why Find Christianity find some other religion and compare to it not Christianity there are plenty of other religions you can compare this video to. Compare it to Judaism or some other religion. I find it illogical to compare it to Christianity.

Last edited by blademaster (2007-03-17 22:02:18)

Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|7103|Florida, United States

blademaster wrote:

ATG wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Well, the video itself is very, very biased.  I imagine a Muslim would be very offended by that.  If you can find some videos totally trashing Christianity, and compare the two situations, then I guess we could make a conclusion...
They get offended too easily. They want to be intolerant without fessing up to it.
Why Find Christianity find some other religion and compare to it not Christianity there are plenty of other religions you can compare this video to. Compare it to Judaism or some other religion.
Christianity is the only other religion with the closest number of followers that Islam has.  So if something that was offensive to Christianity occurred, there would be more upset people than there would be upset Jews if something that was biased against Judaism occurred.
D6717C
Anger is a gift
+174|7061|Sin City

Spearhead wrote:

ATG wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Well, the video itself is very, very biased.  I imagine a Muslim would be very offended by that.  If you can find some videos totally trashing Christianity, and compare the two situations, then I guess we could make a conclusion...
They get offended too easily. They want to be intolerant without fessing up to it.
Different religion, different culture.  The video was grouping all Muslims into the type that would hijack a plane and fly it into a skyscraper.  That would be extemely insulting, if I were Muslim.  It's all about 9/11.. there are some very good Muslims out there and here you have some idiot saying they're all Jihadists.  If 9/11 hadn't have happened, I'm sure the situation would be different.
If all of those came directly from the Qur'an, then how is that some idiot saying they are all jihadists? If that is what they teach and believe, then i'm sorry.....but fuck that. That's way extreme. It's not like the guy was taking specific clips of muslims and trying to make them all look like shit as a whole, like some Michael Moore video. It comes right outta their friggin handbook. But it figures, you can't speak out against any minority or protected class in the States without getting branded as a racist, or having someone come down on you.
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7100|Colorado
Censorship is wrong in any form.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7073

Havok wrote:

blademaster wrote:

ATG wrote:

They get offended too easily. They want to be intolerant without fessing up to it.
Why Find Christianity find some other religion and compare to it not Christianity there are plenty of other religions you can compare this video to. Compare it to Judaism or some other religion.
Christianity is the only other religion with the closest number of followers that Islam has.  So if something that was offensive to Christianity occurred, there would be more upset people than there would be upset Jews if something that was biased against Judaism occurred.
no it would not I remember when that movie about Jesus came out the Jews were super upset . Jewish leaders were on TV 24/7,  they were extremely mad. Also I dont see how number of followers has anything to do with anything. I said place all the other religions and compare it to this video and then by comparing this video to other religions then one should make a or reach conclusion on those basis. Also like D6717C said it comes straight out of their handbook.

Last edited by blademaster (2007-03-17 22:22:59)

blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7073

D6717C wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

ATG wrote:

They get offended too easily. They want to be intolerant without fessing up to it.
Different religion, different culture.  The video was grouping all Muslims into the type that would hijack a plane and fly it into a skyscraper.  That would be extemely insulting, if I were Muslim.  It's all about 9/11.. there are some very good Muslims out there and here you have some idiot saying they're all Jihadists.  If 9/11 hadn't have happened, I'm sure the situation would be different.
If all of those came directly from the Qur'an, then how is that some idiot saying they are all jihadists? If that is what they teach and believe, then i'm sorry.....but fuck that. That's way extreme. It's not like the guy was taking specific clips of muslims and trying to make them all look like shit as a whole, like some Michael Moore video. It comes right outta their friggin handbook. But it figures, you can't speak out against any minority or protected class in the States without getting branded as a racist, or having someone come down on you.
I agree well stated lol
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6795|Columbus, Ohio

TrollmeaT wrote:

Censorship is wrong in any form.
Not sure about that.
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6914|Melbourne

Song:
Rob Dougan - Clubbed to Death

Win!

Last edited by R3v4n (2007-03-17 22:16:37)

~ Do you not know that in the service … one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|7103|Florida, United States

blademaster wrote:

Havok wrote:

blademaster wrote:


Why Find Christianity find some other religion and compare to it not Christianity there are plenty of other religions you can compare this video to. Compare it to Judaism or some other religion.
Christianity is the only other religion with the closest number of followers that Islam has.  So if something that was offensive to Christianity occurred, there would be more upset people than there would be upset Jews if something that was biased against Judaism occurred.
no it would not I remember when that movie about Jesus came out the Jews were super upset . Jewish leaders were on TV 24/7,  they were extremely mad. Also I dont see how number of followers has anything to do with anything. I said place all the other religions and compare it to this video and then compare it would be illogical to only compare two religions and discount the rest.
I must be tired because reading that made my brain hurt.  I'll respond with something semi-intelligent in the morning...
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6833|North Carolina

R3v4n wrote:

Song:
Rob Dougan - Clubbed to Death

Win!
Indeed it is...  Rob D is awesome.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6833|North Carolina
I'll put it this way...  The Quran and the Bible both have a lot of disturbing passages.  Leviticus is the chapter of the Bible that is probably most disturbing in its unflinching condemnation of just about everything.

I don't know enough about the Quran or Islam to make a judgment comparing Islam and Christianity as a whole, but let's just say that these kinds of passages are a lot of the reason why I don't believe in either of these religions.
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|7130|Little Rock, Arkansas

blademaster wrote:

Havok wrote:

blademaster wrote:


Why Find Christianity find some other religion and compare to it not Christianity there are plenty of other religions you can compare this video to. Compare it to Judaism or some other religion.
Christianity is the only other religion with the closest number of followers that Islam has.  So if something that was offensive to Christianity occurred, there would be more upset people than there would be upset Jews if something that was biased against Judaism occurred.
no it would not I remember when that movie about Jesus came out the Jews were super upset . Jewish leaders were on TV 24/7,  they were extremely mad. Also I dont see how number of followers has anything to do with anything. I said place all the other religions and compare it to this video and then by comparing this video to other religions then one should make a or reach conclusion on those basis. Also like D6717C said it comes straight out of their handbook.
And besides, the Jews have all the lawyers... and hollywood... and the media... and the banks.... and the money.... oh wait, is that the trilateral comission? I forget.

{totally off-topic: do a google search for "liberal jew run media." Then click on the first link that pops up. Scroll to the bottom of the page, and check out the name of their company. How awesome is that! I want to work for them just for the business card!}
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7118|Tampa Bay Florida

D6717C wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

ATG wrote:

They get offended too easily. They want to be intolerant without fessing up to it.
Different religion, different culture.  The video was grouping all Muslims into the type that would hijack a plane and fly it into a skyscraper.  That would be extemely insulting, if I were Muslim.  It's all about 9/11.. there are some very good Muslims out there and here you have some idiot saying they're all Jihadists.  If 9/11 hadn't have happened, I'm sure the situation would be different.
If all of those came directly from the Qur'an, then how is that some idiot saying they are all jihadists? If that is what they teach and believe, then i'm sorry.....but fuck that. That's way extreme. It's not like the guy was taking specific clips of muslims and trying to make them all look like shit as a whole, like some Michael Moore video. It comes right outta their friggin handbook. But it figures, you can't speak out against any minority or protected class in the States without getting branded as a racist, or having someone come down on you.
That's just the thing.  We have no idea how they're interpretating the Quran, no idea if the person who made the vid is a credited journalist, nothing.  The only thing I know is that all religious "Holy" books have messed up stuff in them, as Turqoise said, and if every religious person in the world followed what their holy book said word for word, the world would be a pretty scary place.

It's all a matter of interpretation.  And the video implies that every Muslim in the world is as crazy as the Islamic jihadists.  Which simple isn't true.  So yes, it can easily be viewed as offensive.

And I find it very fucking funny that you actually believe you're some kind of victim for "speaking out" (LMFAO) against a group of minorities.  You know as well as I do there are plenty of American muslims that are about as different as the jihadists as you and I.  The only thing that connects them to their radical enemies is the name of the religion.  The good Muslims deserve to be respected.  And you can easily tell the video is not fairly representing good Muslims.  Any Holy book can be interpreted negatively -- and especially after 9/11, I think it's very safe to say an American Muslim would be offended by what that video was implying.  It's not open-minded, it's not showing both sides of the story.  The video is shit.

Last edited by Spearhead (2007-03-17 22:46:11)

Ender2309
has joined the GOP
+470|6999|USA

Spearhead wrote:

Well, the video itself is very, very biased.  I imagine a Muslim would be very offended by that.  If you can find some videos totally trashing Christianity, and compare the two situations, then I guess we could make a conclusion...
there can be no bias without a message. that would be like saying a pamphlet showing the number of drunk driving deaths as compared to sober driving deaths is biased.



all this video serves to do is to show what drives the jihadists and radicals to do what they do, and give others a view at the inside of islam and its religious book. sure, it doesnt show the niceties, but thats not a bias, just unimportant, irrelevant information.
Fenix14
scout rush kekeke ^___^
+116|6985|Brisbane, Aus

Fenix14 wrote:

clubbed to death -Rob D, matrix soundtrack is the song

R3v4n wrote:

Song:
Rob Dougan - Clubbed to Death

Win!
sorry, fail. lol

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