BF2S Forums Who's the Worst U.S. President Ever?

Averaging the rankings from that wikipedia source, this is what you get from best to worst.  I have many grievances with it, but it is interesting nonetheless.

1.Abraham Lincoln
2.Franklin D. Roosevelt
3.George Washington
4.Thomas Jefferson
5.Theodore Roosevelt
6.Woodrow Wilson
7.Harry S. Truman
8.Andrew Jackson
9.Dwight D. Eisenhower
10.James K. Polk
11.John Adams
12.John F. Kennedy
13.James Madison
14.Lyndon B. Johnson
15.Ronald Reagan
16.James Monroe
17.Grover Cleveland
18.William McKinley
19.John Quincy Adams
20.William Howard Taft
21.Bill Clinton
22.George W. Bush
23.Martin Van Buren
24.Rutherford B. Hayes
25.George H. W. Bush
26.Chester A. Arthur
27.Herbert Hoover
28.Gerald R. Ford
29.Jimmy Carter
30.Benjamin Harrison
31.Calvin Coolidge
32.Richard Nixon
33.James Garfield
34.Zachary Taylor
35.John Tyler
36.Millard Fillmore
37.Ulysses S. Grant
38.William Henry Harrison
39.Andrew Johnson
40.Franklin Pierce
41.James Buchanan
42.Warren G. Harding

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-02-23 20:40:09)

I am going to have to vote for Bush, He is making so many wrong decesions.

BUSH.  The polling should be in indicator.  Only Truman got worse polling than Bush when he hit 22% approval rating in 1952.  But imagine if Truman had the scare tactics Bush used...Truman would have never hit below 30 if he had a DHS and a FOX noise channel working for him.

Nixon would be the second worse IMO.  Talk about a sack of shit.

Braddock wrote:

blisteringsilence wrote:

How do you KNOW that he's an idiot?

One example out of a seemingly endless reservoir of examples (if i acted like this I'd expect to be thought of as an idiot)

I think I'd probably get on okay with George on a human one to one level if I did meet him, he does seem like a personable guy and has a comical self awareness of his own amusing mishaps. I seen him in a documentary following him prior to his election and he actually seemed like a funny guy. It's his foreign policies that I dislike.

You know, you just showed a reel of a man that gives 300 - 400 speeches a year. Are you really that surprised that you can find all those gaffs? Hell, if the media was as pervasive throughout American history as it is today, every president would have a gaff reel like that. 20 years ago, there was no way to publish it.

My point is that you have know idea what his level of intelligence is. You disagree with his policies. Why can't you just say that? Why resort to the third-grade mentality of name calling? You're supposed to be an adult, for crying out loud! How about you act like it?

I would challenge everyone here to provide me with proof that Bush is an idiot. If it's convincing, I'll change my stance. If its bollocks, I'll drive/fly over to your house and teabag you whilst you sleep.

TigerXtrm wrote:

Bush, no contest. USA has had a lot of dumb wits running the place, but none of them were stupid enough to start a war over fucking oil, rig the elections twice and expect the world to believe the cover stories... Bush takes the grand prize!

Tiger

I challenge you, Tiger, directly. You must prove to me, beyond a reasonable doubt (since that's the standard of guilt here in the US), that:

a. President Bush started a war over oil,
b. President Bush rigged his first election, and
c. President Bush rigged his second election.

I can pay a retarted monkey with banannas to pound out the drivel that you blindly spurt forth as fact. I challenge you to defend your statements.

djphetal wrote:

how can clinton have 27?

Because he's a pussy and left his mess for Bush. But that's my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, first amendment ftw.

I am from Germany and I don't know all of your presidents, so I'll try to tell you who were the least liked presidents here over the last 100 years. The first is - what a surprise - G.W. Bush. His actions led to great protests in Europe - especially because of the American engagement in Iraq.
The other president who caused massive protests was John F Kennedy. On the one hand the Vietnam war started while he was president (afaik), and on the other hand he was the guy who brought the world as close to a nuclear war as it never was again.

Bush is one crazy retard that getting killed his own people i Iraq.
[sarcasm]Hillary Clinton FTW[/sarcasm]

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

djphetal wrote:

how can clinton have 27?

Because he's a pussy and left his mess for Bush. But that's my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, first amendment ftw.

But he did actually bring the USA's debt down...
And now Bush Jr. has thrown all that good work away...
That's probably Clinton's best contribution!

dirtsA wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

A vote for Bush is a vote for historical ignorance. Given the fact that the mean age on this forum is roughly 14, the poll results do not surprise me.

well dont forget that not everyone here is from america and "old enough" to know exactly what other presidents did.
when i started to get interested in politics, clinton was the president. so i only know those 2 in "detail".
the history of the usa isnt a thing u learn in germany in the school for example and i see no reason why it should be.
on the other hand, many ppl forget fast and they see only the bad things that happen right now.

If that's the case, what are you doing voting in a poll in which you cannot make an informed decision?

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

UGSDawgs wrote:

Like a few people have said before, the sheer number of people who have voted Bush shows that people are either blinded by hatred of Bush or only know a couple of presidents.

What's the point in having a poll if you're just going to dismiss the result on the grounds of your own personal opinions about why the people may have voted in such a way?

He was calling people out. It is common knowledge that Americans don't exactly know their history like the back of their hand, and vote based purely on opinion.

Every time you ask someone to make a judgement call, such as voting on a favourite or worst person, you're asking for their OPINION.  That's what this poll is, that's what every poll is.  If you don't want opinions, don't make polls.

this poll is silly cause GW Bush completely biases the poll.  people will react based on curent affairs without taking history into account.  Nixon send many more men to die in Vietnam (75K) vs. bush (3k) in iraq...yet bush is much worse than nixon?  also why is carter not on the list...he was horrible on economic and foreign policy?  or truman who dropped atomic bombs killing over 400k?

this type of poll is only relevant if the participants are historians who are able to compartamentalize their feelings and consider all scenarios individually.  otherwise we're just wasting everybody's time with this poll...you want to make a case for bush being the worst president ever?  do so in 20 years...not now....that's just silly (take psych 101 if you don't get it).

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

George Washington

lol! Yea of course you dont like him, he beat some British ass!!

George Washington is hands down, no contest the GREATEST American president to ever live. . . no argument needed!

People at the time felt Lincoln was the worst. Today we call him the greatest. (Which I agree with).

I win :)

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Last edited by Kmarion (2007-03-21 10:13:47)