Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
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After reading the thread about dreams in the Junk Drawer, I couldn't help but remember all the times people've been talking about what their dreams/nightmares mean. It's a weird idea to me that what goes on a level below your conciousness is so clearly stated in dreams, but in the past few years just that has been happening to me. So I was wondering if anyone here would be so kind as to shed some light on the subject? Both experience or actual facts would be appreciated

-Sarge
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usmarine2007
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I hope not.
topal63
. . .
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Yes
CameronPoe
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They do but they're generally entirely symbolic and the events and characters in them are not to be taken literally (usually). Each image in your mind is a creation the origin of which you can determine by poring through what you associate each of the nuances with instinctively in your own mind. The problem is that you will instinctively shy away from admitting associations you feel uncomfortable with - the minds internal censor protecting you from your own neuroses...

It's almost impossible to analyse your own dreams.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-03-05 11:53:27)

ATG
Banned
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Find dreams troubling?
Large quantities of marijuanna before bedtime lead to deep, dreamless slumber.

One of the downsides of being a stoner, actually.
Master*
Banned
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ATG wrote:

Find dreams troubling?
Large quantities of marijuanna before bedtime lead to deep, dreamless slumber.

One of the downsides of being a stoner, actually.
thats sad
topal63
. . .
+533|7147

CameronPoe wrote:

They do but they're generally entirely symbolic and the events and characters in them are not to be taken literally (usually). Each image in your mind is a creation the origin of which you can determine by poring through what you associate each of the nuances with instinctively in your own mind.
Most dreams are not about nuances - but are generalizations of conflict / feelings in life.

Some dreams are:
1.) Not symbolic at all - they are often simply random firings of brain cells (synapses). It has been studied that many images / the dream focus - will be upon the last things you experienced before you began to sleep.
2.) Symbolic dreams are not as common, but much more memorable, often reoccur - and the details are generalizations of feelings of conflict.
CameronPoe
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topal63 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

They do but they're generally entirely symbolic and the events and characters in them are not to be taken literally (usually). Each image in your mind is a creation the origin of which you can determine by poring through what you associate each of the nuances with instinctively in your own mind.
Most dreams are not about nuances - but are generalizations of conflict / feelings in life.

Some dreams are:
1.) Not symbolic at all - they are often simply random firings of brain cells (synapses). It has been studied that many images / the dream focus - will be upon the last things you experienced before you began to sleep.
2.) Symbolic dreams are not as common, but much more memorable, often reoccur - and the details are generalizations of feelings of conflict.
I wasn't saying that dreams were about nuances - I was referring to the details of the dreams themselves. Most dreams are wish fulfilment based around frustrations or conflicts.
topal63
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CameronPoe wrote:

topal63 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

They do but they're generally entirely symbolic and the events and characters in them are not to be taken literally (usually). Each image in your mind is a creation the origin of which you can determine by poring through what you associate each of the nuances with instinctively in your own mind.
Most dreams are not about nuances - but are generalizations of conflict / feelings in life.

Some dreams are:
1.) Not symbolic at all - they are often simply random firings of brain cells (synapses). It has been studied that many images / the dream focus - will be upon the last things you experienced before you began to sleep.
2.) Symbolic dreams are not as common, but much more memorable, often reoccur - and the details are generalizations of feelings of conflict.
I wasn't saying that dreams were about nuances - I was referring to the details of the dreams themselves. Most dreams are wish fulfilment based around frustrations or conflicts.
I was agreeing with you actually, sorry for doing it in way... that seemed to you - to be a not.

And like I said - they can be symbolic. But sometimes are nothings as well (most dreams fall into category 1: nothing much at all).

Here is a memorable symbolic dream for you,
From: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=62308&p=4

topal63 wrote:

Most of my dreams are vivid, they even seem more real than reality, they revolve around: sex, flying, violence, God, fear, compassion, helpless-ness, etc - basically the usual.

This is an old dream from my youth. I guess this falls into the weird category. I was walking to school one summer day. I had just gone up the metal crossing bridge, over the street, as I descended I saw a beautiful blond haired women. As I got down off the crossing and was at street level on the concrete walk she was much closer - she was beyond beautiful - her eyes crystal clear blue. As she looked at me, starred at me - her clothes blew away revealing a perfect woman’s body: hairless, flawless, her breasts perfect. Naked & perfect she approached me - as she did, angel wings opened from her back. I stood motionless. And, she turned slightly to my left. Then each of her breasts turned into a pig - and she burst into flames. As she stood there burning she smiled and looked towards the sky - then looked at me. She then become entirely flames, and I just stood their and watched her burn.

Last edited by topal63 (2007-03-05 12:02:37)

Lucien
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My dreams are the exact opposite Topal: my dreams never make any sense, and the environments are dull. Two things that get on my nerves more than anything else: me being unable to make sense of anything and gray, miserable places. also, they often have symbolism of things I fear. On top of that they go from one thing to the other so spontaneously that unless in the one out of 100 dreams where it's about a single thing I can't follow what's going on. truly, spontaneous. No more than a few words or actions before it all changes again

Last edited by SargeV1.4 (2007-03-05 12:12:34)

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topal63
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SargeV1.4 wrote:

My dreams are the exact opposite Topal: my dreams never make any sense, and the environments are dull. Two things that get on my nerves more than anything else: me being unable to make sense of anything and gray, miserable places. also, they often have symbolism of things I fear. On top of that they go from one thing to the other so spontaneously that unless in the one out of 100 dreams where it's about a single thing I can't follow what's going on. truly, spontaneous. No more than a few words or actions before it all changes again
Then they would / or could fall into category 1: (not much) then they seem random - they are about the last thing few things you merely experienced.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077505/

Also that inability to control your environment (the dream-scape that changes so frequently; it almost seems like the subconscious is poking sarcastically, about control, at the conscious); this can be a manifestation of your actual in-ability to control things in the real world. To some degree, for all of us, we cannot control everything in our-lives, we are bystanders to events in the world beyond our control. I have that same dream (in a different-form, with different details) - and yes it is annoying; sometimes it is vividly annoying during the dream.

Last edited by topal63 (2007-03-05 12:31:14)

Mr.Casual
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I rarely have dreams. I get a dream like 3 times a year.
Bertster7
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ATG wrote:

Find dreams troubling?
Large quantities of marijuanna before bedtime lead to deep, dreamless slumber.

One of the downsides of being a stoner, actually.
Although I find the nights I don't have a spliff before bedtime I almost always have weird dreams I can remember.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Dreams are filmed and canned in the realm of the gourd, then delivered each night by ethereal entities known as night mares. The sort that make your mind wander in waking hours are called day mares.

This can be proven by acquiring a hypnogourd and examining the ubiquitous hole on its side. Just make sure someone's around to break your line of sight, or else you probably aren't going to make it out.  If this occurs, the night stallion may employ you as a junior actor.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-03-05 12:34:03)

jonsimon
Member
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SargeV1.4 wrote:

After reading the thread about dreams in the Junk Drawer, I couldn't help but remember all the times people've been talking about what their dreams/nightmares mean. It's a weird idea to me that what goes on a level below your conciousness is so clearly stated in dreams, but in the past few years just that has been happening to me. So I was wondering if anyone here would be so kind as to shed some light on the subject? Both experience or actual facts would be appreciated

-Sarge
Most dreams are just visualizations of whatever is running through your brain. They usually have no practical meaning.
CoronadoSEAL
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Mr.Casual wrote:

I rarely have dreams. I get a dream like 3 times a year.
everybody has dreams; you just don't remeber them. 

fyi- if you want to remember them, usually i don't, try waking up after a REM cycle.

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Masterstyle wrote:

ATG wrote:

Find dreams troubling?
Large quantities of marijuanna before bedtime lead to deep, dreamless slumber.

One of the downsides of being a stoner, actually.
thats sad

Last edited by CoronadoSEAL (2007-03-05 12:48:26)

CameronPoe
Member
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One thing you have to remember about the mind, much like with everything else in this world, is that things happen for a logical reason and thoughts are not generated randomly for no purpose. Think of your brain as a computer - the thoughts running through your conscious mind are like instruction written in a high level computer language, like C or whatever, and the thoughts running through your subconscious mind are like instructions written in assembly language or in binary itself (which makes far less obvious sense but mean something nonetheless).

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-03-05 16:27:06)

Metal-Eater-GR
I can haz titanium paancakez?
+490|6701
Oh yes...
1 day after christmas i dreamt one of my kitty cats in danger,i woke up scared and rushed to take one,the smallest and defenseless,to sleep on with(all other 4 where outside).The following day we found ALL of them (except the 1 i slept with) poisoned in our own garden,next to a chopped fish with a purple liquid over it ...People are fucked up really

I think that nightmare actually predicted what would happen nextday
PureFodder
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One of the important things dreams do seems to be connected with the transfer of information from your short to long term memory. You'll tend to dream about things related to what you experienced or were thinking about that day. Sometimes you begin to wake up during this transfer process, and this is where alot of the crazy begins to happen. Your brain begins to attempt to make the random crap being transfered into your memory into some form of sense and it begins to get dumped into your short term memory again. You start to turn it into a realtively sensible `story` and hence you end up waking up with a bizzare dream vaguely relating to what you were doing/thinking about yesterday.

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