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2007-03-02 23:36:20

Surkill: Member; +6|6556

I am a Muslim, and I really seriously think that the way America is handling the Middle East would simply increase Muslim readicalism.
I think that America took total advantage of Iraq. Saddam already lost the Gulf War, and his country was made to pay with all the sanctions. How the country was destroyed simply reflects America's greed.
I am not anti American, but I condemn America's policies in the Middle East.
And, America has always been one sided to Israel. I think Jimmy Carter's book says it all that Israel does practice Aparthied against Palestinians. Ignorant bigot, antisemite, jihadist, call me whatever you want, but in truth I do see the actions of America's policies.

2007-03-02 23:52:21

Elamdri: The New Johnnie Cochran; +134|6937|Peoria

I dunno, I see the grays in everything.

Take Israel. You have the Palestinians that love to start shit over there, but every day you see some new story about Israeli army soldiers pumping some poor Palestinian kid full of lead....

2007-03-03 01:51:33

krazed: Admiral of the Bathtub; +619|7070|Great Brown North

kay, so why ask a question you already "know" the answer to?

2007-03-03 03:44:49

~FuzZz~: .yag era uoy fi siht deaR; +422|6613|Orrstrayleea

to answer your question "what is america doing to the arab and islamic world" THEY ARE BOMBING THE SHIT OUT OF IT

2007-03-03 03:48:18

JahManRed: wank; +646|6918|IRELAND

You and most of the Islamic world feel this way. Fastest growing religion on earth too.

2007-03-03 03:50:08

stef10: Member; +173|6773|Denmark

Surkill wrote:
I am a Muslim, and I really seriously think that the way America is handling the Middle East would simply increase Muslim readicalism.
I think that America took total advantage of Iraq. Saddam already lost the Gulf War, and his country was made to pay with all the sanctions. How the country was destroyed simply reflects America's greed.
I am not anti American, but I condemn America's policies in the Middle East.
And, America has always been one sided to Israel. I think Jimmy Carter's book says it all that Israel does practice Aparthied against Palestinians. Ignorant bigot, antisemite, jihadist, call me whatever you want, but in truth I do see the actions of America's policies.

I do not care if Israel has apartheid. I just know that jews are fucking mad that somebody stole their land.
And I get even more mad when Hamas say its their land and they want Israel to suffer a terrible death.
It was Israels land so they are just taking back what they really have.

Last edited by stef10 (2007-03-03 03:50:58)

2007-03-03 03:54:25

madmurre: I suspect something is amiss; +117|7001|Sweden

stef10 wrote:
Surkill wrote:
I am a Muslim, and I really seriously think that the way America is handling the Middle East would simply increase Muslim readicalism.
I think that America took total advantage of Iraq. Saddam already lost the Gulf War, and his country was made to pay with all the sanctions. How the country was destroyed simply reflects America's greed.
I am not anti American, but I condemn America's policies in the Middle East.
And, America has always been one sided to Israel. I think Jimmy Carter's book says it all that Israel does practice Aparthied against Palestinians. Ignorant bigot, antisemite, jihadist, call me whatever you want, but in truth I do see the actions of America's policies.
I do not care if Israel has apartheid. I just know that jews are fucking mad that somebody stole their land.
And I get even more mad when Hamas say its their land and they want Israel to suffer a terrible death.
It was Israels land so they are just taking back what they really have.

Read up on some history and politics, and you might understand it´s quite complex. heh and stole their land? pfft.

2007-03-03 03:56:15

ELITE-UK: Scratching my back; +170|6765|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND

Surkill wrote:
I am a Muslim, and I really seriously think that the way America is handling the Middle East would simply increase Muslim readicalism.
I think that America took total advantage of Iraq. Saddam already lost the Gulf War, and his country was made to pay with all the sanctions. How the country was destroyed simply reflects America's greed.
I am not anti American, but I condemn America's policies in the Middle East.
And, America has always been one sided to Israel. I think Jimmy Carter's book says it all that Israel does practice Aparthied against Palestinians. Ignorant bigot, antisemite, jihadist, call me whatever you want, but in truth I do see the actions of America's policies.

I can sense that you are amti-american, you just dont want to say it on here, on an american forum. Also why the hell are you on here, do you play any of the BF games?

2007-03-03 03:56:33

stef10: Member; +173|6773|Denmark

madmurre wrote:
stef10 wrote:
Surkill wrote:
I am a Muslim, and I really seriously think that the way America is handling the Middle East would simply increase Muslim readicalism.
I think that America took total advantage of Iraq. Saddam already lost the Gulf War, and his country was made to pay with all the sanctions. How the country was destroyed simply reflects America's greed.
I am not anti American, but I condemn America's policies in the Middle East.
And, America has always been one sided to Israel. I think Jimmy Carter's book says it all that Israel does practice Aparthied against Palestinians. Ignorant bigot, antisemite, jihadist, call me whatever you want, but in truth I do see the actions of America's policies.
I do not care if Israel has apartheid. I just know that jews are fucking mad that somebody stole their land.
And I get even more mad when Hamas say its their land and they want Israel to suffer a terrible death.
It was Israels land so they are just taking back what they really have.
Read up on some history and politics, and you might understand it´s quite complex. heh and stole their land? pfft.

Stfu.

You really should get a masters in history if you think you are so smart.

To make a long story fast.

Israel had the land.

Romans came and slaughtered and made them leave the land.

Syrians and others came and entered.

If I should make the call Israel should get the land back but in a peacefull way. No massacres.

Last edited by stef10 (2007-03-03 03:58:45)

2007-03-03 03:58:34

kn0ckahh: Member; +98|7029|netherlands, sweet lake city

lol this aint about israel but the americans that invade country's tear them apart and then the celebrate with cakes. I'm not anti american I just think they're just doing things the wrong way.

2007-03-03 04:00:46

stef10: Member; +173|6773|Denmark

I also agree that America should not have entered those contries. It was a major mistake and a lot of people have died.

Sadly, I think that the world soon will se WW3.

Last edited by stef10 (2007-03-03 04:04:09)

2007-03-03 05:08:02

deeznutz1245: Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.; +483|6783|Connecticut

Since you are Muslim maybe I can ask you a question. When are these jihadist lowlife freaks going to stop terrorizing countries? When will they stop killing innocent people? When will they stop teaching their youth that it is acceptable to kill westerners just because they think it is right? And when will they start not smelling like nasty ass body odor?

Malloy must go

2007-03-03 05:20:05

sounds_of_then: Member; +0|6562

who cares about jews and who cares about muslims

sick to death of them both and how the world has been so narsty to them

live in the NOW geeeezassss

2007-03-03 05:35:09

Surkill: Member; +6|6556

deeznutz1245 wrote:
Since you are Muslim maybe I can ask you a question. When are these jihadist lowlife freaks going to stop terrorizing countries? When will they stop killing innocent people? When will they stop teaching their youth that it is acceptable to kill westerners just because they think it is right? And when will they start not smelling like nasty ass body odor?

Well, I am aware that there is Islamic extremism. Actually, there are some mad people who go about such things. Wahabism simply breeds hate. I think that the US should look into the root causes of that extremism, war doesn't bring peace, only justice can.

You know, before the 9/11 events, the Taliban of Afganistan rose to power due to US support. I hated the Taliban for thier extreme version of a government. I also didn't like Saddam, and yet before the first Gulf War, the US used to provide him with WMDs and a variety of weapons R&D related to weapons development. I know pretty well that the US has a history of supporting brutal and tyrinical regimes, including the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia which killed 1.5 million people in just 3 years. The Carter administration did fund the Khmer Rouge in light of the invasion by Vietnam.

I ask you my American friend, why has a country like Iraq which had nothing to do with the 9/11 events is paying such a price? Saddam was totally defeated in his mad campaign in Kuwait. But why the sanctions? Why was Iraq invaded? Now Bush is barking at Iran. It took quite some time for Iran to build those nuclear facilities and no one said anything then. And Iran is a member of the NPT and complies with all the rules and regulations. Believe me, if an attack on Iran takes place, its not going to calm down Islamic extremism. It would only put our world at greater danger.

I know very well that the US has a defence budget of $450 billion. I don't know what that number means to you, but as a person from a thrid world country, I think that money can be spend to change the lives of millions of poor people. To think about it, I think that those defence corporations want to generate "value" within the US defence market. How is that "value" going to be generated? I think that it is the United States that is the most dangerous nation on earth.

2007-03-03 05:48:09

deeznutz1245: Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.; +483|6783|Connecticut

Surkill wrote:
I know very well that the US has a defence budget of $450 billion. I don't know what that number means to you, but as a person from a thrid world country, I think that money can be spend to change the lives of millions of poor people. To think about it, I think that those defence corporations want to generate "value" within the US defence market. How is that "value" going to be generated? I think that it is the United States that is the most dangerous nation on earth.

If there were not organizations like this one, than we might find something better to do with our lunch money. Dont act as if we do all the wrong in the world buddy. I am well aware of evil things done by our nation as well as others, but do not sit there and claim that no unwarranted ill will is displayed by the middle east towards the west. Everyone is so quick to tell America to mind its own business, but stop doing it with your hands out. "Leave us alone, wait!! we meant go away but leave us some cash." All the freaking money middle eastern countries make from oil profits and they still wipe their asses with their own hands. If you are from the middle east then you are the last person who should give advice to America on treating their people and spreading wealth. Poverty, genocide, corruption, treating women like animals, lack of education, starvation are all of a few things the Iraqis dealt with while Saddam and his generals took shits on golden fucking toilets in all of their palaces. We arent perfect and you certainly arent either so stop with the crybaby "I hate America but am going to act rational about it so I look better and win the support of the ferry fucking liberals on this forum" ......act.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2007-03-03 05:57:16)

Malloy must go

2007-03-03 06:29:50

jonsimon: Member; +224|6786

stef10 wrote:
I do not care if Israel has apartheid. I just know that jews are fucking mad that somebody stole their land.
And I get even more mad when Hamas say its their land and they want Israel to suffer a terrible death.
It was Israels land so they are just taking back what they really have.

Everywhere you use the world 'Israel' substitute 'Palestine' and where you say 'Hamas' use instead 'Israel'.

Now you're right.

2007-03-03 06:33:06

stef10: Member; +173|6773|Denmark

jonsimon wrote:
stef10 wrote:
I do not care if Israel has apartheid. I just know that jews are fucking mad that somebody stole their land.
And I get even more mad when Hamas say its their land and they want Israel to suffer a terrible death.
It was Israels land so they are just taking back what they really have.
Everywhere you use the world 'Israel' substitute 'Palestine' and where you say 'Hamas' use instead 'Israel'.

Now you're right.

You my boy are an ignorant individual.

2007-03-03 06:35:54

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6872|SE London

stef10 wrote:
madmurre wrote:
stef10 wrote:
I do not care if Israel has apartheid. I just know that jews are fucking mad that somebody stole their land.
And I get even more mad when Hamas say its their land and they want Israel to suffer a terrible death.
It was Israels land so they are just taking back what they really have.
Read up on some history and politics, and you might understand it´s quite complex. heh and stole their land? pfft.
Stfu.

You really should get a masters in history if you think you are so smart.

To make a long story fast.

Israel had the land.

Romans came and slaughtered and made them leave the land.

Syrians and others came and entered.

If I should make the call Israel should get the land back but in a peacefull way. No massacres.

You really don't have a clue do you?

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 9#p1010409

For a start who had the land about 3000 years ago doesn't matter - if you applied that principle universally the world would be a very different place. You have to treat these situations according to accepted laws and principles of the time - not according to modern standards.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-03-03 06:37:05)

2007-03-03 06:36:18

usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6658|Columbus, Ohio

Surkill wrote:
I am a Muslim, and I really seriously think that the way America is handling the Middle East would simply increase Muslim readicalism.
I think that America took total advantage of Iraq. Saddam already lost the Gulf War, and his country was made to pay with all the sanctions. How the country was destroyed simply reflects America's greed.
I am not anti American, but I condemn America's policies in the Middle East.
And, America has always been one sided to Israel. I think Jimmy Carter's book says it all that Israel does practice Aparthied against Palestinians. Ignorant bigot, antisemite, jihadist, call me whatever you want, but in truth I do see the actions of America's policies.

Do you not understand Saddam made MILLIONS of the oil for food sanctions? FACT

Saddam was respponsible for mass killings, rape rooms, etc . FACT

Jimmy Carter is responsible for the rise of the Taliban. FACT

Islamic world destroys itself. For example, Africa. FACT

2007-03-03 06:37:38

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6872|SE London

usmarine2007 wrote:
Surkill wrote:
I am a Muslim, and I really seriously think that the way America is handling the Middle East would simply increase Muslim readicalism.
I think that America took total advantage of Iraq. Saddam already lost the Gulf War, and his country was made to pay with all the sanctions. How the country was destroyed simply reflects America's greed.
I am not anti American, but I condemn America's policies in the Middle East.
And, America has always been one sided to Israel. I think Jimmy Carter's book says it all that Israel does practice Aparthied against Palestinians. Ignorant bigot, antisemite, jihadist, call me whatever you want, but in truth I do see the actions of America's policies.
Do you not understand Saddam made MILLIONS of the oil for food sanctions? FACT

Saddam was respponsible for mass killings, rape rooms, etc . FACT

Jimmy Carter is responsible for the rise of the Taliban. FACT

Islamic world destroys itself. For example, Africa. FACT

Most of Africa is Christian.

2007-03-03 06:42:45

stef10: Member; +173|6773|Denmark

Bertster7 wrote:
stef10 wrote:
madmurre wrote:

Read up on some history and politics, and you might understand it´s quite complex. heh and stole their land? pfft.
Stfu.

You really should get a masters in history if you think you are so smart.

To make a long story fast.

Israel had the land.

Romans came and slaughtered and made them leave the land.

Syrians and others came and entered.

If I should make the call Israel should get the land back but in a peacefull way. No massacres.
You really don't have a clue do you?

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 9#p1010409

For a start who had the land about 3000 years ago doesn't matter - if you applied that principle universally the world would be a very different place. You have to treat these situations according to accepted laws and principles of the time - not according to modern standards.

I really do not care. I know what my opinions are and how I think this situation should evolve and I do not care about what you have to say about this issue.

2007-03-03 06:45:29

usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6658|Columbus, Ohio

Bertster7 wrote:
Most of Africa is Christian.

Not in the troubled spots. And it is kind of hard to judge religion there, since there are people displaced all over.

2007-03-03 06:47:42

stef10: Member; +173|6773|Denmark

Bertster7 wrote:
usmarine2007 wrote:
Surkill wrote:
I am a Muslim, and I really seriously think that the way America is handling the Middle East would simply increase Muslim readicalism.
I think that America took total advantage of Iraq. Saddam already lost the Gulf War, and his country was made to pay with all the sanctions. How the country was destroyed simply reflects America's greed.
I am not anti American, but I condemn America's policies in the Middle East.
And, America has always been one sided to Israel. I think Jimmy Carter's book says it all that Israel does practice Aparthied against Palestinians. Ignorant bigot, antisemite, jihadist, call me whatever you want, but in truth I do see the actions of America's policies.
Do you not understand Saddam made MILLIONS of the oil for food sanctions? FACT

Saddam was respponsible for mass killings, rape rooms, etc . FACT

Jimmy Carter is responsible for the rise of the Taliban. FACT

Islamic world destroys itself. For example, Africa. FACT
Most of Africa is Christian.

Now it is you that do not have a clue. Islam is rising praticular fast in Africa. More and more lands would be called Islamic contries. And remember all of the religions the tribes have. So Christianity is not so widespread as you might think.

Last edited by stef10 (2007-03-03 06:49:25)

2007-03-03 06:49:16

jonsimon: Member; +224|6786

stef10 wrote:
jonsimon wrote:
stef10 wrote:
I do not care if Israel has apartheid. I just know that jews are fucking mad that somebody stole their land.
And I get even more mad when Hamas say its their land and they want Israel to suffer a terrible death.
It was Israels land so they are just taking back what they really have.
Everywhere you use the world 'Israel' substitute 'Palestine' and where you say 'Hamas' use instead 'Israel'.

Now you're right.
You my boy are an ignorant individual.

Says the kid that doesn't know Israel is the one stealing the land from Palestinians and slowly wiping them out.

2007-03-03 06:50:23

jonsimon: Member; +224|6786

usmarine2007 wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Most of Africa is Christian.
Not in the troubled spots. And it is kind of hard to judge religion there, since there are people displaced all over.

Regardless, it was the christian white man that fucked africa up.

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