As I mentioned earlier....lowing wrote:
Well, my favorite is how Al Gore's movie points out how global warming is being caused by everything EXCEPT, his, and the celebrities that support him, exuberant lifestyles. What an "inconvenient truth" that is huh?
Nothing like, do as I say, and not as I do.
The over extravagance of celebrities is shocking. I can't condone it. But when it comes down to it the amount of carbon emissions produced by celebrities is ultimately inconsequential - although I wholeheartedly agree they are on the whole a bunch of over paid hypocritical pricks with no grasp on reality, look at Tom Cruise.Bertster7 wrote:
Strange that those of you who hold that view seem to agree totally with the US's "Do as we say, not do as we do" attitude to foreign policy.usmarine2007 wrote:
No Varegg, I think you miss what some of us are saying. Some of us have a problem with the "do as I say, not as I do" BS.
For not showing the man respect, he has put down alot of effort into this over a long period of time, Gore started with enviromental issues long before it became popular and have persued his believes even though mocked by his government coworkers and badmouthed by the companies making their money by raping the earth even though they knew the consequenses.usmarine2007 wrote:
Excuse for what?Varegg wrote:
You have a point i`ll give you that but it`s still no excuse !usmarine2007 wrote:
NOT JUST GORE! All of his hollyweird friends / supporters. You know, the one who voted for the Oscar. And I did not compare hamburgers to his traveling habits. I compared to being respected for saying one thing and doing another.
Why not ? ...... what do you have to loose by introducing this to friends and neighbours and get a discussion going in your community, i know this forum hides the fact that many of us can brawl like a lion behind the curtain of anonymity and still in RL seldom raises the voice about anything !usmarine2007 wrote:
I try and do those things, but until I PERSONALLY can do all of that, I sure as hell am not going to preach to people about it.
Because I am sure they know already. I have been hearing about global warming since the 80's. I am aware and pretty much everyone else is, unless they have been living in a cave.Varegg wrote:
Why not ? ...... what do you have to loose by introducing this to friends and neighbours and get a discussion going in your community, i know this forum hides the fact that many of us can brawl like a lion behind the curtain of anonymity and still in RL seldom raises the voice about anything !usmarine2007 wrote:
I try and do those things, but until I PERSONALLY can do all of that, I sure as hell am not going to preach to people about it.
My guess is everyone else might have heard about it but they are not willing to do squat about it as long as they don`t notice anyone else doing anything, or lets wait and see what happends !usmarine2007 wrote:
Because I am sure they know already. I have been hearing about global warming since the 80's. I am aware and pretty much everyone else is, unless they have been living in a cave.Varegg wrote:
Why not ? ...... what do you have to loose by introducing this to friends and neighbours and get a discussion going in your community, i know this forum hides the fact that many of us can brawl like a lion behind the curtain of anonymity and still in RL seldom raises the voice about anything !usmarine2007 wrote:
I try and do those things, but until I PERSONALLY can do all of that, I sure as hell am not going to preach to people about it.
You're blowing electricity right now, though the same amount would be produced even if you turned your computer off.Varegg wrote:
*Will you cut down on your use of electricity ?
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They're not.deeznutz1245 wrote:
I am trading in my TrailBlazer for a 2006 Chevy 2500 HD Extended Cab. Does anyone know if those are good for the environment or not?
Have you ever heard of supply and demand?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You're blowing electricity right now, though the same amount would be produced even if you turned your computer off.Varegg wrote:
*Will you cut down on your use of electricity ?
The sooner they colonise the moon for the benefit of all the SUV types the better.Bertster7 wrote:
They're not.deeznutz1245 wrote:
I am trading in my TrailBlazer for a 2006 Chevy 2500 HD Extended Cab. Does anyone know if those are good for the environment or not?
At all.
And how much energy was expended in powering that enormous display of his in that 'documentary?'SoC./Omega wrote:
i saw on drudge report today that al gore uses 3 or 5 times the energy of the regular american home(natural gas too and such), so much for protecting the earth eh
this was done by some study ill find link later
Yup, but it doesn't debunk the accuracy of what I just said.Bubbalo wrote:
Have you ever heard of supply and demand?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You're blowing electricity right now, though the same amount would be produced even if you turned your computer off.Varegg wrote:
*Will you cut down on your use of electricity ?
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It does, however, add the context that what you said is only accurate in the short term.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Yup, but it doesn't debunk the accuracy of what I just said.Bubbalo wrote:
Have you ever heard of supply and demand?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You're blowing electricity right now, though the same amount would be produced even if you turned your computer off.
We've been through this particular merry-go-round before, and I'm not buying another ticket.
He isn't really. The movie makes it very clear he's been on global warming long before it became a media fad.d4rkst4r wrote:
I hate how Al Gore rides the global warming situation for his own media gain.
I'd have to agree. Sometimes I think Gore is too much of a polarizing point for people who want to continue to claim that global warming is just a plot concocted by America-hating lefties and "eco-nazis".Turquoise wrote:
I go back and forth on the global warming issue. On the one hand, I want to do something about reducing the forms of pollution that cause the greenhouse effect.
However, on the other hand, when I see people miss the forest for the trees by focusing on Al Gore's politics rather than the facts he's presenting, it makes me welcome the thought of most of humanity drowning from rising sea levels.
He has enjoyed his 5 homes ( none of which is less than 4000 sq ft, the biggest I think was 10,000). He has also enjoyed his private jets, yachts, travelled in gas guzzling SUV's in his motorcade, for just as long as he has been on his crusade.jonsimon wrote:
He isn't really. The movie makes it very clear he's been on global warming long before it became a media fad.d4rkst4r wrote:
I hate how Al Gore rides the global warming situation for his own media gain.
I don't have a problem with the message, but he is the one of the few that can actually afford a hybrid car, or fly anywhere he wants, when he wants on a commercial airplane. Yet he preaches what the rest of us should do, as he does the opposite.HunterOfSkulls wrote:
I'd have to agree. Sometimes I think Gore is too much of a polarizing point for people who want to continue to claim that global warming is just a plot concocted by America-hating lefties and "eco-nazis".Turquoise wrote:
I go back and forth on the global warming issue. On the one hand, I want to do something about reducing the forms of pollution that cause the greenhouse effect.
However, on the other hand, when I see people miss the forest for the trees by focusing on Al Gore's politics rather than the facts he's presenting, it makes me welcome the thought of most of humanity drowning from rising sea levels.
Well, at least he's trying to educate people. That's more than I can say for Bush.lowing wrote:
He has enjoyed his 5 homes ( none of which is less than 4000 sq ft, the biggest I think was 10,000). He has also enjoyed his private jets, yachts, travelled in gas guzzling SUV's in his motorcade, for just as long as he has been on his crusade.jonsimon wrote:
He isn't really. The movie makes it very clear he's been on global warming long before it became a media fad.d4rkst4r wrote:
I hate how Al Gore rides the global warming situation for his own media gain.
I guess "lead by example" just isn't a philosophy that can be found in the liberal creed, is it?
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Except that it isn't a matter of getting a hybrid car. Sure, you could choose a more fuel efficient car (which saves you money anyway), but far more important is getting people involved to force the government to act. The biggest issue is industry, not consumer.lowing wrote:
I don't have a problem with the message, but he is the one of the few that can actually afford a hybrid car, or fly anywhere he wants, when he wants on a commercial airplane. Yet he preaches what the rest of us should do, as he does the opposite.HunterOfSkulls wrote:
I'd have to agree. Sometimes I think Gore is too much of a polarizing point for people who want to continue to claim that global warming is just a plot concocted by America-hating lefties and "eco-nazis".Turquoise wrote:
I go back and forth on the global warming issue. On the one hand, I want to do something about reducing the forms of pollution that cause the greenhouse effect.
However, on the other hand, when I see people miss the forest for the trees by focusing on Al Gore's politics rather than the facts he's presenting, it makes me welcome the thought of most of humanity drowning from rising sea levels.
Correct and also wrong at the same time, consumer emitted emissions is the cheapest place to start and if enough people do whatever they can that itself is possibly enough to make a difference, the industry will be way more exspensive and take a longer time to be done with their nesesary steps but then it will yield a bigger effect !Bubbalo wrote:
Except that it isn't a matter of getting a hybrid car. Sure, you could choose a more fuel efficient car (which saves you money anyway), but far more important is getting people involved to force the government to act. The biggest issue is industry, not consumer.lowing wrote:
I don't have a problem with the message, but he is the one of the few that can actually afford a hybrid car, or fly anywhere he wants, when he wants on a commercial airplane. Yet he preaches what the rest of us should do, as he does the opposite.HunterOfSkulls wrote:
I'd have to agree. Sometimes I think Gore is too much of a polarizing point for people who want to continue to claim that global warming is just a plot concocted by America-hating lefties and "eco-nazis".