BF2S Forums To the religious: Why do you believe in God?

Spark wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

Spark wrote:

What's easier - saying that a rock was formed by natural processes (which makes far, far more sense) or that someone 'made' it?

And fuck you and your analogy. If that's (the last sentence or so) what you believe you can haul you and your God to your heaven, the rest of us don't want you here.

if a rock was formed by natural processes, then were did the "ingredients" it was made from come from? and how did such a complex process start happening?

and do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

I stand by what I said. It is far easier to assume that someone put a rock there (thereby negating your argument that NOT believing in God is easier) than to say that the rock was formed by natural processes (logical ones). To answer your qusetions: the ingredients came through two processes: nucleosynthesis (the formation of ALL elements in dying stars - don't tell me this doesn't exist, it has been observed. We know more about the stars around us than the earth's core. The other option is thourgh SLiME (I can't remember what this stand for, but I believe it's Sub-lithoautotrophic... forgot the rest. basically it's just underground bacteria). These things have been known to eat, breathe and excrete strange things - basically every natural element up to uranium.

As for the second part: I stand by that too. It was a response to your 'Holier than thou, all 4.5 billion of you nonbelievers are going to hell attitude', which I positively detest.

Spark wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Is it?  Atheists can't turn to divine guidance to solve their problems, they have to do it themselves.  Further, they can't pray for divine intervention, or rest easy in the knowledge that their god protects them.  They have to take full responsibility for everything.

If you are an athiest, then you believe there is no God, so in your eyes, christians are just praying to nothing, so how can you say we are getting divine guidance if you dont believe it exists? God doest always protect us from harm, but we can rest easy knowing that we are going to heaven. and when was the last time you heard a Christian say "God made me do it!"?

Actually... I've heard that a few times in courtroom proceedings.

Plus, if you murder someone, do you still go to heaven? I don't think so. You have to EARN your spot, and I seriously doubt that FOUR AND A HALF BILLION PEOPLE are barred from heaven because of where they were born or Christianity simply didn't suit them. Also, I think you should live your life to the fullest, and not live it for an afterlife.

I invite you to read link B. in my sig. And don't say that evolution and creationism are the same, it doesn't make any sense. It's like walking twenty miles in a circle to get next door - less than 20m away.

Oh, and I found out what SLiME stood for: Subsurface Lithoautotrophic Microbial Ecosystem

Smitty5613 wrote:

Spark wrote:

Smitty5613 wrote:

If you are an athiest, then you believe there is no God, so in your eyes, christians are just praying to nothing, so how can you say we are getting divine guidance if you dont believe it exists? God doest always protect us from harm, but we can rest easy knowing that we are going to heaven. and when was the last time you heard a Christian say "God made me do it!"?

Actually... I've heard that a few times in courtroom proceedings.

Plus, if you murder someone, do you still go to heaven? I don't think so. You have to EARN your spot, and I seriously doubt that FOUR AND A HALF BILLION PEOPLE are barred from heaven because of where they were born or Christianity simply didn't suit them. Also, I think you should live your life to the fullest, and not live it for an afterlife.

I invite you to read link B. in my sig. And don't say that evolution and creationism are the same, it doesn't make any sense. It's like walking twenty miles in a circle to get next door - less than 20m away.

Oh, and I found out what SLiME stood for: Subsurface Lithoautotrophic Microbial Ecosystem

you can go to heaven if you murder sum1, its not how good you are, its if you accept God as your savior, you dont have to earn anything....... and people who dont hear the word of God arent punished as badly as people who hear it everyday yet still dont believe it...... if you want anymore info, go read it for yourself, im out.....

Smitty5613 wrote:

if a rock was formed by natural processes, then were did the "ingredients" it was made from come from? and how did such a complex process start happening?

Ratzinger wrote:

|CoR| CrossFire wrote:

aLpHa|Mr.App|e wrote:

Look...im not God, but im sure he got a good reason for it....ask him ur self

That sums it up - if you do believe in a God as great as mine, it doesn't even make sense to question him about those types things (disasters, diseases, sin,) since we really understand so little of His big picture.

see spark, before sin (according to Christians) there was no death, so yea, we really did somehow cause deadly earthquakes and death.  Things changed when we disobeyed.

later!
-CrossFire

See, no matter how illogical or spurious the statement they make, they believe it 100%.

This is how faith works.

|CoR| CrossFire wrote:

Ratzinger wrote:

|CoR| CrossFire wrote:

That sums it up - if you do believe in a God as great as mine, it doesn't even make sense to question him about those types things (disasters, diseases, sin,) since we really understand so little of His big picture.

see spark, before sin (according to Christians) there was no death, so yea, we really did somehow cause deadly earthquakes and death.  Things changed when we disobeyed.

later!
-CrossFire

See, no matter how illogical or spurious the statement they make, they believe it 100%.

This is how faith works.

sarcasm aside, yea!