BF2S Forums Should The Australian Flag Be Flown Over Australian Mosques?

Bubbalo wrote:

All modernised nations will face the problem of an aging population at some point, and the smart fix is to allow immigration for young families.

Yep and it's also genetically good.

But the population doesn't know it yet and are afraid.

Bubbalo wrote:

IIRC my generation is the first to be at the wrong side of the pyramid (if that makes sense).

If you don't mind, could you explain that?

Turquoise wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

IIRC my generation is the first to be at the wrong side of the pyramid (if that makes sense).

If you don't mind, could you explain that?

Ther's more old people than young people, meaning that they will not be enough people for the pensions (?) system to work properly.

Bubbalo wrote:

Yeah.  Basically, my generation is the first one in which the retired will outnumber the employed (or at least, sufficiently for it to matter).

This is why global warming is not that bad, the temperatures will go up and old people will die.

I may look like a cold hearted bastard but it's true, in the summer of 2002 in France, 14.000 people have died due to a warm wave.

If people keep getting older and not make more babies, then the system will collapse.

Ah...  I see.  So the situation is basically the same in Australia as it is in much of Europe.

Ironically, America is one of the few First World countries where our native birth rate is actually high enough to slow this aging effect, but most of this is the result of immigrant families having children here.  The children are "native", so to speak, but the parents aren't.

Either way, America still depends on immigrants to about the same extent as Europe and Australia.  I just wish America could find some way to educate our native workforce better, so that more of them could ascend to better jobs while the immigrants do mostly the jobs that don't pay so well.  As it currently stands, too many "natives" here are too uneducated to get a decent job in their own right.

Nope.  But they do have ultra-funky crucifix towers paid for by phone companies .

IIRC I've seen the odd church with a flag.

<BoTM>J_Aero wrote:

...Having an Australian flag flying over a church, or mosque or synagogue, has no real effect on the people that worship inside.

While this is no doubt true, the effect is clearly not meant to be aimed at those inside the church, mosque, or synagogue, but more to promote unity from the outside. Issues of segregation rarely begin because the group being "left out" of a society choose for it to be so (and when this happens it isn't segregation but isolationism) - but because the "mainstream" of the society tends to reject that which is different and isolate it.

Flying the Australian flag over mosques/synagogues/churches promotes the idea that these things are as Australian as anything else could be taken to be, simply because the people inside are Australian and the building is quite obviously in Australia - and although the subconscious effect is probably small, every little helps.

BN wrote:

I think the jewish community needs to intergrate more in Australia.

I walked passed a Synagogue in Sydney the other day and it had huge iron bars surrounding the building and security guards out the front. I wanted to go in and have a look around but I was stopped. Not very welcoming.

Mount Scopus school has 20 foot high fences and barb wire around it. Is that to keep people out or in?

In caulfield the local jewish community wanted the traffic lights changed so they dont have to push the button to get the green man when crossing the street

They sound a bit paranoid and bossy, but then again, this does fit the stereotype.

(Puts on flameproof suit.)

Im from the US so i dont kno much about australia... but i think you should fly it over mosques..... if the muslims dont like it, then they dont have to live there...... but thats just how i feel....

Bubbalo wrote:

So, the Muslims should have to fly the flag because the others don't like it, but if they don't like it too bad?

Another thought: what if they choose to fly the black, red and yellow in recognition of the original owners?

The sale of condoms in the colours of the Aboriginal flag won a public health award in 2005 for the initiative's success in improving safe sex practices among young Indigenous people.

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