I have one comment to make about that.. "Team America FUCK YEAH!" that film has you to a tee. Whats even more funny is that you do leave the kind of carnage behind you just like in that film.ATG wrote:
Don't allow a enviroment that breeds suicide bombers and ships them to the battlefield. Deal with your muslim extremist problem so we don't have to.Magpie wrote:
Stay the hell out of europe with your illegal "agents"
What?Vilham wrote:
I have one comment to make about that.. "Team America FUCK YEAH!" that film has you to a tee. Whats even more funny is that you do leave the kind of carnage behind you just like in that film.ATG wrote:
Don't allow a enviroment that breeds suicide bombers and ships them to the battlefield. Deal with your muslim extremist problem so we don't have to.Magpie wrote:
Stay the hell out of europe with your illegal "agents"
He talks as if its Americas job to police the world "Deal with your muslim extremist problem so we don't have to.".Kmarion wrote:
What?Vilham wrote:
I have one comment to make about that.. "Team America FUCK YEAH!" that film has you to a tee. Whats even more funny is that you do leave the kind of carnage behind you just like in that film.ATG wrote:
Don't allow a enviroment that breeds suicide bombers and ships them to the battlefield. Deal with your muslim extremist problem so we don't have to.
If you read some of ATG recent post he also talks about his desire to be less involved. You do know how he feels about the Bush administration right?Vilham wrote:
He talks as if its Americas job to police the world "Deal with your muslim extremist problem so we don't have to.".Kmarion wrote:
What?Vilham wrote:
I have one comment to make about that.. "Team America FUCK YEAH!" that film has you to a tee. Whats even more funny is that you do leave the kind of carnage behind you just like in that film.
As to the carnage.. seen pictures of Afghanistan or Iraq lately?
Again you try to win your argument by putting words into my mouth.ATG wrote:
No, it's because people like you blame America for everything, no matter what. It's pointless trying to lead you to logic, and 9-11 and our beloved troops are too important and serious to demean by engaging in a pointless circle jerk of a conversation when in the end you will still say;Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Because you are unable to put together a coherent and convincing argument.ATG wrote:
No, it means I don't find you worth debating on this subject anymore.
America sucks and we brought 9-11 on ourselves.
That is your overarching point, isn't it? Kind of weaves its way through everything you type. Thats not being liberal; it's being a fanatic.
Have a good day.
That's exactly how I feel about myself.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
As I have repeatedly stated in the past. I am not a liberal. Neither am I a fantic. Nor a neo-con. In fact I do not hold any fixed political stance. I examine the truth and I speak what I see.
I know. And that's why it depresses me when you rersort to pictures of monkeys asses.ATG wrote:
That's exactly how I feel about myself.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
As I have repeatedly stated in the past. I am not a liberal. Neither am I a fantic. Nor a neo-con. In fact I do not hold any fixed political stance. I examine the truth and I speak what I see.
I see... the sentiment was somewhat lost by it being painted on a monkeys ass...ATG wrote:
Sorry.
It said i love you, and was meant to be a cease fire.
I got a scathing admin warning if it makes you feel better.
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"we will" mentality only works if you ignore how nation states are suppose to act....and in IGNORING you are in all intensive purposes BREAKING the law of nations to which we all like to think we abide by.ATG wrote:
Now its 3 on 1 and that isn't fair. here I'll switch sides;;
No matter what happened to America on 9-11, you have no right to go into another country and abduct their citizens, even if they are Muslim fanatics who are plotting suicide attacks.
Now me again;
If Italy wants to deal with their own problems, fine, But if not, and we percieve a threat we will.
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Saddam Hussein was a murdering asshole, but the US government supported him until he got too ambitious for his own good and thought he could buck the program. Now apparently we're supposed to believe he just woke up evil one morning and started killing and torturing his own people instead of realizing the US government didn't give a rat's ass who he killed or tortured for over a decade as long as he stayed friendly to US government interests.ATG wrote:
Thats like saying that because we helped train drug enforcement agents in Mexico the cartels now have really well trained people working for them.
It's not our fault these people are murdering assholes.
You know, when you posted your picture I thought; Oh great, another dirt bag meat head.HunterOfSkulls wrote:
Saddam Hussein was a murdering asshole, but the US government supported him until he got too ambitious for his own good and thought he could buck the program. Now apparently we're supposed to believe he just woke up evil one morning and started killing and torturing his own people instead of realizing the US government didn't give a rat's ass who he killed or tortured for over a decade as long as he stayed friendly to US government interests.ATG wrote:
Thats like saying that because we helped train drug enforcement agents in Mexico the cartels now have really well trained people working for them.
It's not our fault these people are murdering assholes.
Manuel Noriega was a drug-dealing murderous asshole, but the US government supported him until he refused to go along with US actions against Nicaragua. That's when he apparently woke up evil too.
Francois and Jean Claude Duvalier were a family legacy of murdering assholes in Hati that lasted for thirty years until their own people finally kicked them out. The US government supported them right up until the bitter end because they were more Cold War anti-communist allies, which apparently also gave them the right to torture and murder their own people.
Shah Mohammad Reza Palevi was a murdering asshole who ruled Iran after the CIA toppled the previous democratically-elected government. Membership in the sole political party he created was compulsory, his SAVAK secret police engaged in torture of Iranian citizens on a massive scale and his military used tanks and helicopter gunships against civilian protestors duing the "Black Friday" national protests in 1978. Eventually this and other abuses led to a full-scale revolt against the Iranian monarchy and the institution of the current Islamic theocracy a little over a year after "Black Friday". So, for the sake of anti-communism there, the US helped fundamentalist Islam gain a huge foothold in the Middle East by supporting a tyrant. Great job guys, thanks a bunch.
This is a short list. I could go down the line of every two-bit thug and halfass dictator the US government has ever supported who later either turned or became a liability, but I'll be here all frickin' day. And before anyone goes there, yes I realize other governments do the same damn thing. That is not an acceptable reason, that's kid logic: "Billy did it TOO!". Point being, the US government has an established track record of screwing with and destabilizing other countries, supporting tyrants and generally fomenting anti-US sentiments throughout the world. And guess who gets to reap the rewards of that? George Bush? Bill Clinton? No. We do. The regular folks who get pretty much zero say in all of this crap. They play power games and we get dead. We get planes flown into buildings, we get abducted overseas, we get suspension of habeus corpus and warrantless surveilance. We get extraordinary rendition. And on top of all that, like a cherry on a shit sundae, we get some smiling prick a`la Ronald Reagan telling us bedtime stories about freedom and liberty while they train the soldiers of third-world dictators how to torture people or they send weapons to people who will eventually become our enemies. They do this and then they practically sign all of our names to it, but then somehow manage to act shocked and appalled when one of their pet psychotics acts true to their nature.
So, maybe it's not directly our fault, but as long as we allow it to continue because some politician can trowel a big layer of "we're the bestest nation in teh world becuz we stand for FREEDOM" over it, we are responsible.
I agree, I've been impressed so far.ATG wrote:
You know, when you posted your picture I thought; Oh great, another dirt bag meat head.HunterOfSkulls wrote:
another excellent post.
But, thus far I am impressed.
Keep it up.
I really wasn't kidding when I said that was one of the worst pictures of me ever taken. It was just a moment of supreme geekitude over that car pulling up outside my workplace. Thanks though. Just let me know if I get too wordy. I won't stop, I just like knowing.ATG wrote:
You know, when you posted your picture I thought; Oh great, another dirt bag meat head.
But, thus far I am impressed.
Keep it up.
Yeah you post a hell of a lot butHunterOfSkulls wrote:
I really wasn't kidding when I said that was one of the worst pictures of me ever taken. It was just a moment of supreme geekitude over that car pulling up outside my workplace. Thanks though. Just let me know if I get too wordy. I won't stop, I just like knowing.
Yeah saw the posts a little while back. Hope it's going ok. Definitely worthwhile kicking the habit and I wish you luck.ATG wrote:
I was a dirt bag meat head at one point.
Now I'm a clean meat head. big_smile
Actually, it's really nice to hear one from your side of the isle relentlessly making the case without tired cliches and cut and paste arguments.HunterOfSkulls wrote:
I really wasn't kidding when I said that was one of the worst pictures of me ever taken. It was just a moment of supreme geekitude over that car pulling up outside my workplace. Thanks though. Just let me know if I get too wordy. I won't stop, I just like knowing.ATG wrote:
You know, when you posted your picture I thought; Oh great, another dirt bag meat head.
But, thus far I am impressed.
Keep it up.
Thank you sir. I've done good so far. I really appreciate the sentiment.crimson_grunt wrote:
Yeah you post a hell of a lot butHunterOfSkulls wrote:
I really wasn't kidding when I said that was one of the worst pictures of me ever taken. It was just a moment of supreme geekitude over that car pulling up outside my workplace. Thanks though. Just let me know if I get too wordy. I won't stop, I just like knowing.
A) it's always interesting
B) it's relevant to the discussion
and most importantly
C) it has punctuation and is readable without making your eyes bleed.
Bit of a rarity on this forum for posts of your lengthYeah saw the posts a little while back. Hope it's going ok. Definitely worthwhile kicking the habit and I wish you luck.ATG wrote:
I was a dirt bag meat head at one point.
Now I'm a clean meat head. big_smile
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Cripes, don't use the word "brilliant" to describe me, my ego is unmanageable enough as it is.ATG wrote:
Actually, it's really nice to hear one from your side of the isle relentlessly making the case without tired cliches and cut and paste arguments.
There are a handful of brilliant liberals on these forums, and I'm on a friendly basis with them all because they are brilliant.
You just made the list.
Well now I'm gonna lose that "brilliant" designation for asking "WTF is a dual sport motorcycle?"ATG wrote:
Clarify; are you a spy from a certain dual sport motorcycle web site here to cause trouble?
If you are, please just confess now.
Why haven't we installed US citizens in Iraqi government if we're so imperialistic? That line is so tired it's getting really boring to hear people keep repeating it.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
No, but equally you don't use it as an excuse to further your own imperialist agenda.ATG wrote:
And...what does Iraq have to do with the CIA agents in Italy, pray tell?So, we were just supposed to clean up the mess the Muslim made in New York and pretend nothing happened?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
That's not what I said. I said you imposed the 'state of war' on yourselves.