Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6991
Yup.  It was in some thread about a soldier (Navy SEAL?) who jumped on a grenade.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6797|Columbus, Ohio

Bubbalo wrote:

Yup.  It was in some thread about a soldier (Navy SEAL?) who jumped on a grenade.
no
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6991
Yes, I clearly recall it correctly.

It was fadedsteve.  Apologies.

Either way, this kind of hurts your high-horse stance in a certain other thread.................
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6797|Columbus, Ohio

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes, I clearly recall it correctly.

It was fadedsteve.  Apologies.

Either way, this kind of hurts your high-horse stance in a certain other thread.................
I am not good at these games....get to the point please.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6991
The part where you call me a pussy.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6797|Columbus, Ohio

Bubbalo wrote:

The part where you call me a pussy.
That was this thread.  And I didn't call YOU a pussy per say.  I can if you like.
scouseclarky
Member
+10|7011

Bubbalo wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Prove it is not true.
You don't surrender rights, you simply choose to do certain things, same as any job.
you surrender the right to say no. u surrender to go where u please, when u please and do what u please
u surrender the right to get out of bed when u want or not go to work today because u cant be botherd.

in actual fact when u join the military u give up alot of rights
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6797|Columbus, Ohio

scouseclarky wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Prove it is not true.
You don't surrender rights, you simply choose to do certain things, same as any job.
you surrender the right to say no. u surrender to go where u please, when u please and do what u please
u surrender the right to get out of bed when u want or not go to work today because u cant be botherd.

in actual fact when u join the military u give up alot of rights
No use arguing with him.  He has stated before that he thinks everyone who was in the military is dumber than him.
scouseclarky
Member
+10|7011

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

I can.  But then, I'm not really a fan of patriotism as compared to humanitarianism.
We call that "being a pussy" where I come from.
Most sensible people realize that humanitarian behavior is more necessary in this world than militarism.  Unfortunately, sensible people are rare.
realy where was the humantarianism in kosovo and bosnia
where was it in bergen and aushwitz
where was it in kuwait

in serbrinetza during the war between the serbs and croats the serbs rounded up over 9000 males of all ages and shot them all in the time period off less than 24 hours all these men from just one village this happend all across the country

in ww2 millions of people were executed for no reason at all

in kuait thousands were killed by chemical weapons dropped on them because saddam didnt like them

in africa there are thousands of ppl who were killed because they were a differant tribe or had a differant skin colour

who stopped the atrocities in the places above the military or the humanitarians

it was the military by putting themselves between the fighting party's and saying this stops now if u attack them we will attack you.

it was the military who sent soldiers overseas to fight and die so that these atrocities would no longer happen so that the ppl who lived there could live without fear of being grabbed in the middle of the night took to a field and shot for no reason at all
scouseclarky
Member
+10|7011
i dont care what ppl think of me as a soldier or the millitary at the end of the day at least i had the courage to join the army and be prepared to put my life on the line so that others dont have to. i did this when i joined i knew the risks and i chose to take the oath and the risks anyway.

the only thing i would ask is that before you slag the millitary off ask yourselves whats the biggest sacrifice you have ever made or are prepared to make. for most people its do i go the pub tonight or buy that game i wanted. for  the person in the millitary its do i join and risk my life or sit back and let someone else do the dirty work for me

Last edited by scouseclarky (2007-02-11 07:54:33)

{B-T}<babacanosh>
Member
+31|7032
i kept dissing a canadian army recriuter at my school. He didnt have good "come-backs" becuase he knew i was right
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6797|Columbus, Ohio

{B-T}<babacanosh> wrote:

i kept dissing a canadian army recriuter at my school. He didnt have good "come-backs" becuase he knew i was right
Please share your "dissing" with us.
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7144|US
Perhaps he did not want to lower his standards and make his service look bad.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6991

usmarine2007 wrote:

scouseclarky wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


You don't surrender rights, you simply choose to do certain things, same as any job.
you surrender the right to say no. u surrender to go where u please, when u please and do what u please
u surrender the right to get out of bed when u want or not go to work today because u cant be botherd.

in actual fact when u join the military u give up alot of rights
No use arguing with him.  He has stated before that he thinks everyone who was in the military is dumber than him.
No, I've stated that I would have to be an idiot to join the army.  Just the same as you would have to be an idiot to join Greenpeace.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6991

scouseclarky wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Prove it is not true.
You don't surrender rights, you simply choose to do certain things, same as any job.
you surrender the right to say no. u surrender to go where u please, when u please and do what u please
u surrender the right to get out of bed when u want or not go to work today because u cant be botherd.

in actual fact when u join the military u give up alot of rights
By the same logic I could argue that when I decide to live in Australia I surrender the right to kill people on a whim, or when I take a job I surrender the right to be rude to my boss.
Macca
Cylons' my kinda frak
+72|6875|Australia.
Trust me, from personal experience. When arguing or debating with Bubbalo, there is no doubt that he will win.

Anyway, Isn't it something called choice?
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6797|Columbus, Ohio

Bubbalo wrote:

No, I've stated that I would have to be an idiot to join the army.  Just the same as you would have to be an idiot to join Greenpeace.
Nope.  You said "Sorry I wasn't stupid enough to join the military...."
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6922|Connecticut
That translates into: "I am to much of a Nancy Pant to risk my life for my countrymen, or to reciprocate any aggression on an enemy. I look up to real men who preserve my freedoms that I dont realize I have because I have probably never lived without them. So, because I dont have enough fuzz on my kiwi's to join the military, I will loathe those who do and insult their inteligence to belittle them, ensuring that I fullfill any insecurities I might have."

Also: " I am sick of those guys in dress blues sleeping with my girlfriend so I will hate U.S. Marines in particular."


PS- Happy Fucking Valentines Day

If I am lucky, someone will quote me someday.
Malloy must go
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7121|Calgary

usmarine2007 wrote:

scouseclarky wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


You don't surrender rights, you simply choose to do certain things, same as any job.
you surrender the right to say no. u surrender to go where u please, when u please and do what u please
u surrender the right to get out of bed when u want or not go to work today because u cant be botherd.

in actual fact when u join the military u give up alot of rights
No use arguing with him.  He has stated before that he thinks everyone who was in the military is dumber than him.
Fuck... Get a job with with a multinational company, if your any good they send you everywhere, and the stress and deadlines are killer. ( yes, speaking from experience)
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7121|Calgary

usmarine2007 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

No, I've stated that I would have to be an idiot to join the army.  Just the same as you would have to be an idiot to join Greenpeace.
Nope.  You said "Sorry I wasn't stupid enough to join the military...."
Bubbalo, you gotta step up to the plate sometimes and do what you gotta do. To join the Army is an honor. To protect freedom, life and liberty. It seems you get all you info from the news outlets. The Army is more than about killing, its about helping and defending those who can't defend themselves.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6835|North Carolina

scouseclarky wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


We call that "being a pussy" where I come from.
Most sensible people realize that humanitarian behavior is more necessary in this world than militarism.  Unfortunately, sensible people are rare.
realy where was the humantarianism in kosovo and bosnia
where was it in bergen and aushwitz
where was it in kuwait

in serbrinetza during the war between the serbs and croats the serbs rounded up over 9000 males of all ages and shot them all in the time period off less than 24 hours all these men from just one village this happend all across the country

in ww2 millions of people were executed for no reason at all

in kuait thousands were killed by chemical weapons dropped on them because saddam didnt like them

in africa there are thousands of ppl who were killed because they were a differant tribe or had a differant skin colour

who stopped the atrocities in the places above the military or the humanitarians

it was the military by putting themselves between the fighting party's and saying this stops now if u attack them we will attack you.

it was the military who sent soldiers overseas to fight and die so that these atrocities would no longer happen so that the ppl who lived there could live without fear of being grabbed in the middle of the night took to a field and shot for no reason at all
You do realize that most of what you posted was initiated by a military force, right?

My point is this...  if people weren't so fucking aggressive in the first place, we could help each other more.

I'm not a pacifist by any means, but I do value the charitable and compassionate acts of humanity over the combative ones.

I'm NOT saying I attribute no worth to military personnel.  Obviously, militaries are a necessary evil because humans are prone to attacking each other.  As I stated earlier in this thread, I respect people that join the military because it's something I'd never do unless I absolutely had to.

At the same time, however, it struck me as rather senseless to bash someone for expressing a preference for compassion over combat.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6920|Menlo Park, CA
Bubbalo I would appreciate you keeping my name out of any of your liberal laden responses. . .

Your a fancy boy who would be scared if someone popped a bag full of air next to your head!!!

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