Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7119|Calgary

KuSTaV wrote:

For those of you who believe in God...
God was proven wrong the day we got to space.
And you base this on what????
SteikeTa
Member
+153|7175|Norway/Norwegen/ Norge/Noruega
First of all, we got free will. I have read a lot of the bible and had a VERY Christian girlfriend. I think this is disgusting too, but it does not prove that God does not exist. I actually believe He does.
If we did not have free will, we would have absolutely no purpose of living. We would not "know" that we existed.
Someone said that evil started with Satan, thats wrong. Evil always existed. According to the bible. Before Lucifer was "created" and turned evil. Thats why he turned evil, because evil already existed.

It sounds crazy but how would we know freedom, peace, happiness and such if evil did not exist? Its my believes, not trying to force it on you guys. Of course one could argue and say: well, if evil exist to let us know what happiness is, then why not show it in much less disgusting ways?? You can think of the answer and understand what I mean. Degrees of evil and happiness. It probably sound crazy but thats what I believe. When I read about things like this It always make me so fucking happy something like this never have happened to my brothers/sisters children. Or any other child I know. Sounds bad, but thats what I think. Things like this shows us how good things can be when it do not happen to you or people you know. Its extremely sad for the girl and her family!

You people will really flame me for this, but shit has to happen for us to know what happiness and good things are. It's a shame that there are not any other way for us to know it.
I respect you guys for not believing in these things, so I hope you respect my believes. Well, actually you don't have to. Wont change the way I see things anyway. God wants us to forgive.... but it's hard and almost impossible to do it in these cases. Even I wouldn't forgive such a thing if it happened to my daughter. I probably couldn't. I would want these people to be kept alive and tortured..... death would be an easy way out.
Scorpion0x17
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+691|7193|Cambridge (UK)

SteikeTa wrote:

death would be an easy way out.
Fortunately they're being imprisoned in the UK, where we don't have the death penalty, and even though they've only got like 10years each, from what I understand, those 10years are probably not going to be pleasant for them...

Not that I think what is probably going to happen to them is is necessarily right, but, well, it could be seen as just...
nlsme
Member
+48|6842|new york

usmarine2007 wrote:

nlsme wrote:

For anyone that say "how can you worship a god that has the power to stop this, but doesn't", go read the book of Job. Not preaching, but you have to have faith in him, if you beleive in him.
I have read it before.  Doesn't explain this or other things to me.
That is because you don't beleive, I was just showing why god would allow this to happen to an innicent person. His plan for us is not here on earth, but in heaven.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

nlsme wrote:

His plan for us is not here on earth, but in heaven.
So, for this girl, his plan is for her to go thru the worst possible experience ever in order to get the prize?  Is this fear factor or religion?

p.s.  When I actually read the bible, I used to believe.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7199|PNW

KuSTaV wrote:

For those of you who believe in God...
God was proven wrong the day we got to space.
And science was proven wrong when a human survived the speed of sound. Doesn't mean anything.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-02-09 19:35:28)

Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7193|Cambridge (UK)

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

KuSTaV wrote:

For those of you who believe in God...
God was proven wrong the day we got to space.
And science was proven wrong when a human survived the speed of sound. Doesn't mean anything.
Science is never proven wrong. Science says "we have this theory, lets go see if we can prove it", then, when it can't, it says "Oh, well, we were wrong, now lets modify our theory"...

Religion says "We don't need no stinking theories, we have faith, and if you disagree with us, then you are the ones that are wrong."

And, so, many countless people get killed in the name of one religion or another.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-02-10 08:15:23)

[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
Why walk when you can dance?
+77|7014|sWEEDen
Soo... should we type a letter to the inmates in the prison they get sent too....describing their deeds...for making sure the years they spend in there get really nasty...
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6794|Columbus, Ohio

[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:

Soo... should we type a letter to the inmates in the prison they get sent too....describing their deeds...for making sure the years they spend in there get really nasty...
I hope they already know...but good idea. +1

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