BF2S Forums This is Why the Liberal Media Fails

gun.KingRat wrote:

ATG wrote:

mr.hrundi wrote:

You should have lived in Germany 70 years ago. after reading through these forums for a while, I'm pretty sure you would have liked it there. I can only hope for you that you have blonde hair and blue eyes.

Sometimes was in bold.

I don't advocate doing anything to Muslims other than confinning them to an area where they are not a threat to me or my family.

As usmarine pointed out, the vast majority of Muslims do not blow themselves up; but they approve the tactic by subtle ways, and justify jihad, and the implementation of sharia.

Just not worth the risk or conflict.

I basically feel about the same towards radical christiian fundamentalist.

I catagorically disavow any suggestion of genocide against Muslims.

Notice I capitalized Muslim and not christian?

Yeah, you have to watch out for those Christians. Never know when the Salvation Army or the Red Cross are going to hijack another airplane.

...or when they blow up abortion clinics.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

On the one hand, Daniel Pipes is an extremist in his own right.

On the other hand, the behavior of these people seems to verify many of his assumptions.

I don't know anything about this guy.  Why would you say he was an extremist?  From what I saw he is quite a moderate.  The far right wouldn't want anything to do with negotiations or working with moderate Muslims and would just want to nuke or carpet bomb every muslim back to the middle ages, and the far left would be wanting to hug everything better.  I think his responses were rather to the point and accurate.

If you have something that shows him to be otherwise, I would appreciate any links you could provide.

Perhaps extremist was a harsh word.  What I mean is...  he does things that... well, have a look...

He is the founder of Campus Watch.  This organization states that it is based on keeping intellectual discussions on college campuses as scholarly and rational as possible, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest that they just try to stifle any criticism of Israel or interventionist U.S. policy.

For example, "Pipes and Campus Watch were accused of attacking academic freedom in 2002 by publishing a list of academics critical of Israel and U.S. foreign policy."  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes

Here's the primary link that was used for that assessment: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20021125/mcneil

"Pipes' Middle East Forum sparked controversy in September 2002 when it established a website called Campus Watch that claimed to identify five problems in the teaching of Middle Eastern studies at American universities: "analytical failures, the mixing of politics with scholarship, intolerance of alternative views, apologetics, and the abuse of power over students". Students were encouraged to submit reports regarding teachers, books and curricula. The project was accused of "McCarthyesque intimidation" of professors who criticized Israel, when it published a "blacklist" of professors. In protest, more than 100 academics demanded to be listed as well. Campus Watch subsequently removed the list from their website."  Again from wikipedia....

Here are the primary links to support these accusations. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c … 227890.DTL

http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/416

http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/209

Basically, he's clever in spinning things because of how subtle he is.  He has a subtly Zionist streak about him that makes it hard to identify his prejudice.

Granted, I do agree with a number of his views.  Some of his ideas actually make sense, but to me, he has an agenda just like his opponents.

Court ordered executions are murder now?

And either way, it's portaying.  I could portray George Bush as president: it doesn't mean he isn't.

Last edited by Bubbalo (2007-02-07 21:45:40)

Bubbalo wrote:

Court ordered executions are murder now?

And either way, it's portaying.  I could portray George Bush as president: it doesn't mean he isn't.

The point being, as you damn well know.Muhammad WAS violent!. SO why is saying so an outrage?

Yeah, Islamophobia is not happening, my mistake.

Just a thought marine.  Why don't you name your threads properly?  I mean, cmon, this one says "This is why the Liberal Media Fails".  How can anyone know what the hell the thread is about without reading it?  You should name the threads according to the information inside, not with your opinions about anything else.  If Iran builds a Toilet paper factory and they sell the paper to Israel you open a thread "Iran wants to wipe Israel".  No offense.

Yes, because usmarine's threads are too important to be ignored

sergeriver wrote:

If Iran builds a Toilet paper factory and they sell the paper to Israel you open a thread "Iran wants to wipe Israel".

I lol'd.

usmarine2007 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Yeah, Islamophobia is not happening, my mistake.

Not that I have any proof that the people in this video were under FBI survallence, or if the FBI is telling the truth, but I found this interesting.

"Hundreds gathered at a meeting last summer to angrily confront FBI officials after an agent's public comment, quickly contradicted by headquarters, that the bureau was "monitoring" Muslim student groups at the University of California at Irvine."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17037298/

Now why are they outraged that the FBI was (maybe) watching these groups after hearing what they say in this video?

And why aren't those same people speaking out against what they were saying now?

Many Muslisms are brainwashed by their media, like many people in the West are brainwashed by western media.  That doesn't make those Muslims extremists, does it?  Having the wrong view doesn't make them extremists.

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes, because usmarine's threads are too important to be ignored

LOL, bubbalo looking down from his imaginary perch again

The problems are never you bubbalo, it is those that shred your posts to pieces with reality and logic that is the trouble..

usmarine2007 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes, because usmarine's threads are too important to be ignored

I try to attract derailing tools like yourself.

So, basically you're afraid of participating in serious discussion?  Is that because you know you aren't up to it?

Bubbalo wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes, because usmarine's threads are too important to be ignored

I try to attract derailing tools like yourself.

So, basically you're afraid of participating in serious discussion?  Is that because you know you aren't up to it?

You have serious discussions?  Most of your posts are personal attacks or nothing to do with the topic in the first place.  GG.  Yay for you!

Last edited by usmarine2007 (2007-02-11 06:00:16)