This has happened before and the countries immediately go into famine because the people promised the land don't know how to farm it effectively enough to produce enough for the country's population. Therefore destruction of the one (white farmers) will lead to the economic destruction, maybe even the entire infastructure of the country can be destroyed because this. Ruling in this manner has led to horrible results in the past but no one pays head to the past.
QUOTE "It might have something to do with the fact that the land was gained through the brutality of imperialism. Just maybe." end quote
what the crap are you smoking - Mugabe begged the "white farmers" to come back 20 years ago - after almost all of them left at the end of the war in 1980 (for fuck sake). He GAVE them back their farms so they could FEED his people.
How do I know this - my mums cousins were among them.
That Mugabe started all this shit up again cause the political opposition got too strong. So called black traitors (anyone opposed to him) are still in gaol. Some whites have been killed and large numbers displaced by his so called war veterans (they should all be Grey haired old/middle aged men by now - not the young thugs you see on the tv news footage).
THE FUCKING WAR ENDED IN 1980 FOR FUCK SAKE - HE HAS HAD 27 YEARS TO "REDISTRIBUTE" THE WEALTH. FUCK OFF BUBBALO.
what the crap are you smoking - Mugabe begged the "white farmers" to come back 20 years ago - after almost all of them left at the end of the war in 1980 (for fuck sake). He GAVE them back their farms so they could FEED his people.
How do I know this - my mums cousins were among them.
That Mugabe started all this shit up again cause the political opposition got too strong. So called black traitors (anyone opposed to him) are still in gaol. Some whites have been killed and large numbers displaced by his so called war veterans (they should all be Grey haired old/middle aged men by now - not the young thugs you see on the tv news footage).
THE FUCKING WAR ENDED IN 1980 FOR FUCK SAKE - HE HAS HAD 27 YEARS TO "REDISTRIBUTE" THE WEALTH. FUCK OFF BUBBALO.
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he sounds like a black Hitlerjsnipy wrote:
Not really. Hitler was better at giving speeches, plus he had that cool German accent.The#1Spot wrote:
he sounds like a black Hitlerjsnipy wrote:
It's African American Hitler! You're not being enough politically correct there The#1Spot!
Seriously though, that guy could use some anal violation, preferably lethal.
Seriously though, that guy could use some anal violation, preferably lethal.
This is old, but Richard is the man when it comes to stand up.
Says something about Zimbabwe too
Says something about Zimbabwe too
Last edited by oug (2007-02-06 04:19:16)
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Zimbabwe used to be known as the Bread Basket of Africa. White land owners employed black workers to work the massive farms. Mugabe put pay to that along with countless other infractions and blatant human rights abuses. Saddam pails into insignificance when weighed up against this nut job. But then again the oil keeps flowing from his country, the profits going into a handful of general and Mugabe's cronies so they are allowed to act with impunity while the country falls apart and descends into famine. The only way anyone is ever going to step in is if he starts trading his oil in Euros or cuts the supply.
@Usmarine
The key to understanding Mr Mugabe is the 1970s guerrilla war where he made his name. World opinion saw him as a revolutionary hero, fighting racist white minority rule for the freedom of his people.
Since Zimbabwe's independence in 1980, the world has moved on - but his outlook remains the same. The heroic socialist forces of Zanu-PF, are still fighting the twin evils of capitalism and colonialism.
His opponents, in particular the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), are labelled "sell-outs" to white and foreign interests and, as during the war, this tag has been a death warrant for many MDC supporters.
Officially, ZANU-PF is socialist in ideology, and is modelled on communist parties in other countries. The party maintains a politburo. However, the party has abandoned much of the egalitarian aspects of communist ideology, instead choosing to pursue a mixed economy. However, Mugabe has since pursued a more populist approach on the issue of land redistribution, encouraging the seizure of large farms, usually owned by the white minority. Officially, this is for the benefit of landless black peasants, but critics of this policy argue that it is to maintain his grip on power and that supporters of his government benefit from the land redistribution much more than the wider landless population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanu-PF
@Usmarine
The key to understanding Mr Mugabe is the 1970s guerrilla war where he made his name. World opinion saw him as a revolutionary hero, fighting racist white minority rule for the freedom of his people.
Since Zimbabwe's independence in 1980, the world has moved on - but his outlook remains the same. The heroic socialist forces of Zanu-PF, are still fighting the twin evils of capitalism and colonialism.
His opponents, in particular the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), are labelled "sell-outs" to white and foreign interests and, as during the war, this tag has been a death warrant for many MDC supporters.
Officially, ZANU-PF is socialist in ideology, and is modelled on communist parties in other countries. The party maintains a politburo. However, the party has abandoned much of the egalitarian aspects of communist ideology, instead choosing to pursue a mixed economy. However, Mugabe has since pursued a more populist approach on the issue of land redistribution, encouraging the seizure of large farms, usually owned by the white minority. Officially, this is for the benefit of landless black peasants, but critics of this policy argue that it is to maintain his grip on power and that supporters of his government benefit from the land redistribution much more than the wider landless population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanu-PF
wasnt something posted about this a few months back? where the white land owners were evicted and the land was given to the blacks, who then stole and sold all the farm equipment and left :\
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This brings up (sort of) an issue that has 'befuddled' me::
Why are blacks called African-American, since I have 3 friends from Africa (South Africa & Zimbabwe) who are all white? Are they not African-Americans as well?
Why also, on most of my US Standardized tests and such ethnicities listed as "African-American" and "White" as opposed to "African-American" and "Caucasian" or simply "Black" and "White".
(Yes, some say Caucasian, none say black.) Reverse discrimination, I tell you!
Why are blacks called African-American, since I have 3 friends from Africa (South Africa & Zimbabwe) who are all white? Are they not African-Americans as well?
Why also, on most of my US Standardized tests and such ethnicities listed as "African-American" and "White" as opposed to "African-American" and "Caucasian" or simply "Black" and "White".
(Yes, some say Caucasian, none say black.) Reverse discrimination, I tell you!
Damn, thats a good point. Sounds like a plot for a Will Farrell movie.R0lyP0ly wrote:
This brings up (sort of) an issue that has 'befuddled' me::
Why are blacks called African-American, since I have 3 friends from Africa (South Africa & Zimbabwe) who are all white? Are they not African-Americans as well?
Why also, on most of my US Standardized tests and such ethnicities listed as "African-American" and "White" as opposed to "African-American" and "Caucasian" or simply "Black" and "White".
(Yes, some say Caucasian, none say black.) Reverse discrimination, I tell you!
Black man holdin' the white man down. FTW
Because the African part of African-American refers to ancestry. Your white friends should be called European-American if you want the same naming system. I, for example, would be European-Australian.R0lyP0ly wrote:
This brings up (sort of) an issue that has 'befuddled' me::
Why are blacks called African-American, since I have 3 friends from Africa (South Africa & Zimbabwe) who are all white? Are they not African-Americans as well?
Why also, on most of my US Standardized tests and such ethnicities listed as "African-American" and "White" as opposed to "African-American" and "Caucasian" or simply "Black" and "White".
(Yes, some say Caucasian, none say black.) Reverse discrimination, I tell you!
History class good for you?bubbass wrote:
Why would anyone want to be in South Africa, period?jsnipy wrote:
Begs this the question: Why would you want to be white farmer in Zimbabwe?
I'd hit it a 0:52jsnipy wrote:
i wonder what would happen if we said that to the black people living in the UK?usmarine2007 wrote:
"Zimbabwe's national security minister has told the country's last remaining white farmers that they will be jailed if they refuse to abide by a deadline that passed over the weekend for them to leave their farms, according to a newspaper report on Monday."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_ … _evictions
I hope there is more to this story. Someone explain this to me.
Don't go there Dave...david363 wrote:
i wonder what would happen if we said that to the black people living in the UK?usmarine2007 wrote:
"Zimbabwe's national security minister has told the country's last remaining white farmers that they will be jailed if they refuse to abide by a deadline that passed over the weekend for them to leave their farms, according to a newspaper report on Monday."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_ … _evictions
I hope there is more to this story. Someone explain this to me.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
A riot I would assume.david363 wrote:
i wonder what would happen if we said that to the black people living in the UK?usmarine2007 wrote:
"Zimbabwe's national security minister has told the country's last remaining white farmers that they will be jailed if they refuse to abide by a deadline that passed over the weekend for them to leave their farms, according to a newspaper report on Monday."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_ … _evictions
I hope there is more to this story. Someone explain this to me.
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freedom fighter turned dictator....sounds familiar...I have heard that story before.
But it's africa, so no one gives a shit. A forgotten continent.
It's sad to say, but I seems most african people are not ready for freedom and democracy yet. Some have managed to get their countries on track, but most former colonies are shitholes with corrupt governments and ethnic cleansing.
Mugabe is going to be dealt with eventually, I think, but not in the near future. Maybe the african union can do something. The rest of the world is too busy fighting terror.
As long as the oil is flowing, most of us don't care, it seems. africa has no lobby.
But it's africa, so no one gives a shit. A forgotten continent.
It's sad to say, but I seems most african people are not ready for freedom and democracy yet. Some have managed to get their countries on track, but most former colonies are shitholes with corrupt governments and ethnic cleansing.
Mugabe is going to be dealt with eventually, I think, but not in the near future. Maybe the african union can do something. The rest of the world is too busy fighting terror.
As long as the oil is flowing, most of us don't care, it seems. africa has no lobby.
Aye. Don't forget the diamonds also. And I have said before, Northern Africa is a failed civilization.B.Schuss wrote:
freedom fighter turned dictator....sounds familiar...I have heard that story before.
But it's africa, so no one gives a shit. A forgotten continent.
It's sad to say, but I seems most african people are not ready for freedom and democracy yet. Some have managed to get their countries on track, but most former colonies are shitholes with corrupt governments and ethnic cleansing.
Mugabe is going to be dealt with eventually, I think, but not in the near future. Maybe the african union can do something. The rest of the world is too busy fighting terror.
As long as the oil is flowing, most of us don't care, it seems. africa has no lobby.
Uh.............isn't Zimbabwe in South Africa?
Not south enough.Bubbalo wrote:
Uh.............isn't Zimbabwe in South Africa?