BF2S Forums Fight terror with terror.

Not sure.  I know if a terrorist ever killed a family member, I would hunt down his /her family and kill them.  Period.

Yes definitely....

NAZI tactics. Excellent example - perfecto!
Become terrorist ourselves - beyond perfecto!

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

I agree with SargeV1.4 - let's fight terror with terror. The time for pussyfooting is over. If you want to make an omelette you're gonna have to break some eggs.

very funny cameron

Commie Killer wrote:

SargeV1.4 wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

I agree with SargeV1.4 - let's fight terror with terror. The time for pussyfooting is over. If you want to make an omelette you're gonna have to break some eggs.

very funny cameron

Cameron? What?

Poe

It won't work.  The fact of the matter is that they aren't targeting only US/allied military targest and personnel.  They are targeting each other as part of a civil war.

Basically, they are already killing each other, and to die for such a cause would be considered a great honor.  We would simply create more martyrs.

BALTINS wrote:

burn some Quran's, that will teach them some respect!

remember the cartoons. you know how well that worked out

go watch swordfish.

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

I agree with SargeV1.4 - let's fight terror with terror. The time for pussyfooting is over. If you want to make an omelette you're gonna have to break some eggs.

And by eggs, you mean the skulls of the darkies.

I gotta say, trying to defend an idea using the fact that the Nazis did it isn't really a good strategy to get support.

That doesn't work with these terrorists.  The United States also won't bring themselves down to that level.  These people are stupid enough to be conviced that killing innocent people will get them into heaven where there are 13 virgins waiting for them.  If that was the case, why doesn't someone like Osama Bin Laden do a suicide bombing??  They are crazy.

SargeV1.4 wrote:

I do not nessecarily support this idea, I am just posting it so we can discuss it.

For how long now have there been attacks on soldiers in the middle east? for so long now soldiers doing their job have been dieing, killed by people who want to send a message, knowing that killing the enemies' soldiers in terror attacks will cause panic.

During WWII, in the Netherlands, every time the 'resistance' caused problems, the Nazi's rounded up random citizens and killed them/sent them off to camps. Of course, this is a very harsh example, but nonetheless it worked. If fighting for your country means killing your own comrades, would you still do it?

So, (and again, read the disclaimer at the top) what if we fight terror with terror: Tell them that for every suicide bombing/attack we will strike back: think of your own ideas here, but I do mean real retaliation, voilence or repression. Basically, fighting fire with fire. Every time they blow people up they will do more damage to themselves than to us.

would you use such tactics to stop terror, and if so how far would you go?

I've suggested that we fund terror against the Iranian government before.  We did back when Mossadegh was in power (which turned out to be a MAJOR mistake).

Yet, you bring up a good point.  We talk of how we have a War on Terror, and yet, our own government has supported terrorists before.  Our country began with a form of terrorism against the British.

So really....  are we honestly the nation against terror that we say we are? It seems more like we are against terror unless it serves our interests.

You can not defeat an abstract idea with military force.

Kmarion wrote:

That would make us no different than them. We claim we are are trying to rid the earth of terrorism. You don't disprove that you are an alcoholic by trying to outdrink a drunk.

You can not defeat an abstract idea with military force. You must give the people in the region hope, a reason to cherish life. Terrorism is usually a result of desperation and blame. That is what must be removed.

In principle, I agree.

Where I deviate is that I have no hope for these people myself.  The kind of changes we want to see in Iraq will take generations, and for the most part, only they can do it themselves.  What strikes me as ironic is how we've essentially been giving "handouts" to the Iraqi people for the last 3 years, and the process itself has been managed by a party usually against such things -- Republicans.

I guess my personal take on it is that hearts and minds must be won before the handouts even begin, and such cultural changes must be made from within, not from a foreign power like us.  Much of Iraq resents our influence, and most of the Islamic World is so religious that their logic has been warped.  Until the Islamic World becomes more secular, we have no hope of changing these people for the better.  The only way to make them more secular is for their poverty to lessen dramatically.  As it currently stands, all many of them have is faith, and without a solid secular education to balance things out, extremism spreads like a virus.