Drakef
Cheeseburger Logicist
+117|6789|Vancouver

Pigskinn wrote:

Gay marriage is an oxymoron, the definition of marriage is that it’s between a man women... look it up. Sorry, they don't have the hardware nor do they have the software to be part of the clan.

-Peace Out
Not in Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Belgium, Massachusetts, and South Africa. Oh, and 36% of Americans, among the millions worldwide in support of it.

But otherwise, this topic has turned into a debate wholly without anything to debate about, except to attack each other's credibility by characterizing entire political factions as immoral. Fantastic. Well, I'd love to continue, but since I'm a hippie left-wing pinko commie, I don't work and I'm having some terrorists over for dinner. They're gay, by the way, so I'm trying to hide this from my neighbour, a redneck farmer with a whole rack of guns, who hates anyone except white people.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

Drakef wrote:

Pigskinn wrote:

Gay marriage is an oxymoron, the definition of marriage is that it’s between a man women... look it up. Sorry, they don't have the hardware nor do they have the software to be part of the clan.

-Peace Out
Not in Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Belgium, Massachusetts, and South Africa. Oh, and 36% of Americans, among the millions worldwide in support of it.

But otherwise, this topic has turned into a debate wholly without anything to debate about, except to attack each other's credibility by characterizing entire political factions as immoral. Fantastic. Well, I'd love to continue, but since I'm a hippie left-wing pinko commie, I don't work and I'm having some terrorists over for dinner. They're gay, by the way, so I'm trying to hide this from my neighbour, a redneck farmer with a whole rack of guns, who hates anyone except white people.
I support it for 1 reason, a gay marriage does not affect my persuit of life liberty or happiness at all. But I will not support special rights legislation for them either.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command
If we give them equal rights can we also pass a law that says men have to dress like men and no butch cuts on He/she's?
That's the only thing about gender challenged people.
An Enlarged Liver
Member
+35|7170|Backward Ass Kansas

ATG wrote:

If we give them equal rights can we also pass a law that says men have to dress like men and no butch cuts on He/she's?
That's the only thing about gender challenged people.
...I swear, I thought he was a chick....... I had no idea..... I mean, did you see that ass??!?!
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6988

ATG wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Technically speaking it's conservatives who suicide bomb...............................
Technically speaking, that's just fucking stupid.
No, it isn't.  The Muslims who suicide bomb are conservative Muslims.  They issue fatwahs on liberal Muslims, like Salman Rushdie (sp?).
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6988

Pigskinn wrote:

Bubbalo ~

So what you're saying; if i hear you correctly. You're equating a moral equivalence  with all conservatives. 
LOL
Thats like saying because you recycle you're an EchoWacko. 

-Peace Out
No, I'm saying that your accusations that liberals wear bomb vests is ludicrous.  Then again, so are all your posts................................
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6988

Turquoise wrote:

Basically, some liberals forget that even tolerance must be limited in order to have a functioning and mostly free society.  In other words, we can't tolerate extremists.
Actually, tolerance must be enforced.  Suicide bombing shows a lack of tolerance.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6988

Turquoise wrote:

and if conservatives remembered that paranoia and nation-building only give the government an opportunity to steal our freedoms and waste our money on nations that don't deserve it.
If I had to guess, I'd say that your conservatives, and ours, do realise that.  In fact, I'd say they're relying on it.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7102|Canberra, AUS
Woah... don't forget the edit button there bubbalo.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7141|US

Bubbalo wrote:

Actually, tolerance must be enforced.
This strikes me as a little bit odd...

Tolerance must be encouraged, except in situations where it works against the common good.  That's my opinion, anyway.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6988

Spark wrote:

Woah... don't forget the edit button there bubbalo.
The problem is that I then go in and edit it, and someone's replied to it and misses half of what I say................

RAIMIUS wrote:

Tolerance must be encouraged
Do we encourage people not to kill?  No, we force them.  Do we encourage people not to steal?  No, we force them.  How is this any different?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina

Bubbalo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Basically, some liberals forget that even tolerance must be limited in order to have a functioning and mostly free society.  In other words, we can't tolerate extremists.
Actually, tolerance must be enforced.  Suicide bombing shows a lack of tolerance.
If you're saying what I think you are, then yes, we need to enforce tolerance by preventing suicide bombings.  So yes, the terrorists are definitely very intolerant.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina

Bubbalo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

and if conservatives remembered that paranoia and nation-building only give the government an opportunity to steal our freedoms and waste our money on nations that don't deserve it.
If I had to guess, I'd say that your conservatives, and ours, do realise that.  In fact, I'd say they're relying on it.
In all honesty, I agree when it comes to neocons.  True conservatives would be reluctant to enter war.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6988

Turquoise wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Basically, some liberals forget that even tolerance must be limited in order to have a functioning and mostly free society.  In other words, we can't tolerate extremists.
Actually, tolerance must be enforced.  Suicide bombing shows a lack of tolerance.
If you're saying what I think you are, then yes, we need to enforce tolerance by preventing suicide bombings.  So yes, the terrorists are definitely very intolerant.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

Bubbalo wrote:

Pigskinn wrote:

Bubbalo ~

So what you're saying; if i hear you correctly. You're equating a moral equivalence  with all conservatives. 
LOL
Thats like saying because you recycle you're an EchoWacko. 

-Peace Out
No, I'm saying that your accusations that liberals wear bomb vests is ludicrous.  Then again, so are all your posts................................
LOL, but there is no denying the fact that the people wearing the bomb vests favor liberals. So, what does that say about liberals?
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|7080

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Pigskinn wrote:

Bubbalo ~

So what you're saying; if i hear you correctly. You're equating a moral equivalence  with all conservatives. 
LOL
Thats like saying because you recycle you're an EchoWacko. 

-Peace Out
No, I'm saying that your accusations that liberals wear bomb vests is ludicrous.  Then again, so are all your posts................................
LOL, but there is no denying the fact that the people wearing the bomb vests favor liberals. So, what does that say about liberals?
That they piss people in bomb vests off less?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6988
So, you're telling me that adhering to old ways is liberal now?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

UON wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


No, I'm saying that your accusations that liberals wear bomb vests is ludicrous.  Then again, so are all your posts................................
LOL, but there is no denying the fact that the people wearing the bomb vests favor liberals. So, what does that say about liberals?
That they piss people in bomb vests off less?
Yup, exactly, through appeasement, negotiating, cowering and down and out right running away.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|7080

lowing wrote:

UON wrote:

lowing wrote:


LOL, but there is no denying the fact that the people wearing the bomb vests favor liberals. So, what does that say about liberals?
That they piss people in bomb vests off less?
Yup, exactly, through appeasement, negotiating, cowering and down and out right running away.
So pissing less people off is a bad thing, in lowing-land?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

UON wrote:

lowing wrote:

UON wrote:


That they piss people in bomb vests off less?
Yup, exactly, through appeasement, negotiating, cowering and down and out right running away.
So pissing less people off is a bad thing, in lowing-land?
No burying your head in the sand and hoping you don't piss someone off so they don't hurt you is.
syntaxmax642
Member
+32|7052|Seattle

Pigskinn wrote:

Can someone please explain the rational here?

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as … 007_pg7_18


All comments wanted?

-Peace Out
What gives? I mean Sharia Law is pretty oppressive to Females? I think the Ferengi had it right... THeir word for Female translated to english was Cattle...

Like we give a crap about Pakistan and their Libraries... Tell them to blow the place up.. It's not like women are allowed to read or get educated under Sharia Law anyways.

Maybe these Ho's need to be taught how to blow some cock instead of blowing things up...

Last edited by syntaxmax642 (2007-02-05 16:13:03)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6832|North Carolina

lowing wrote:

UON wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yup, exactly, through appeasement, negotiating, cowering and down and out right running away.
So pissing less people off is a bad thing, in lowing-land?
No burying your head in the sand and hoping you don't piss someone off so they don't hurt you is.
In a way, I agree.  Nonetheless, you may claim that terrorists prefer less aggressive liberals in power, but the terrorists themselves are extremely conservative.

Radical Islamism should be a reminder to everyone that religion can be twisted to promote ultraconservative agendas, and when that happens, it usually ends up being very violent (like how radical Christians have blown up abortion clinics).

So, ultimately, moderation is the key.  We shouldn't be so liberal as to allow extremists to continue spreading chaos unabated, but at the same time, we shouldn't be so conservative and militant to jump at every opportunity to intervene.

Secular government and free trade allow us to be a mostly free nation, but there would appear to be people even in our own society that seem to desire the union of religion and government.  Ironically, this Religious Right group is among the strongest backers of the neocon agenda of secularizing Middle Eastern governments.  You would think conservative Christians might turn inward to realize that Christianity has the potential to be just as corrupting of government as Islam has been for the Middle East, but I guess that's a lesson yet to be learned by America.

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-02-05 16:35:01)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

Turquoise wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Basically, some liberals forget that even tolerance must be limited in order to have a functioning and mostly free society.  In other words, we can't tolerate extremists.
Actually, tolerance must be enforced.  Suicide bombing shows a lack of tolerance.
If you're saying what I think you are, then yes, we need to enforce tolerance by preventing suicide bombings.  So yes, the terrorists are definitely very intolerant.
and trying to decide if terrorists are tolerant or not is actually a point of debate??!! I am not encouraged about our future.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6988
That isn't the topic of debate, but then you can't actually be expected to try and comprehend what you read can you
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

Bubbalo wrote:

That isn't the topic of debate, but then you can't actually be expected to try and comprehend what you read can you
Nope I need a dumb fuck liberal, terrorist appeasing, piece of shit, like you, to explain it all to me, bubbalo.

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