san4
The Mas
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This is what happens when security policies rely on an association between superficial characteristics and behavior: we become vulnerable to attackers who adopt the superficial characteristics we trust.

This is an awful story, and it's highly unusual. The scariest part is that the success of this attack could encourage more attacks like it in Iraq and in the U.S.


The Associate Press wrote:

Military opens up on sneak attack, By Steven R. Hurst and Qassim Abdul-Zahra
BAGHDAD, Iraq - In perhaps the boldest and most sophisticated attack in four years of warfare, gunmen speaking English, wearing U.S. military uniforms and carrying American weapons abducted four U.S. soldiers last week at the provincial headquarters in the Shiite holy city of Karbala and then shot them to death....
    The brazen assault, 50 miles south of Baghdad, was conducted by nine to 12 gunmen posing as an American security team, the military confirmed.  The attackers traveled in black GMC Suburban vehicles - the type used by U.S. government convoys - had American weapons, wore new U.S. military combat fatigues and spoke English, according to two senior U.S. military officials as well as Iraqi officials. One Iraqi official said the leader of the assault team was blond, but no other official confirmed that....Iraqi officials said the approaching convoy of black GMC Suburbans was waved through an Iraqi checkpoint at the edge of the city. The Iraqi soldiers believed it to be American because of the type of vehicles, the distinctive camouflage American uniforms and the fact that they spoke English.
So what should we look for? Suspicious behavior:

The Associate Press wrote:

Police, who became suspicious when the convoy of attackers and their American captives did not stop at a roadblock, chased the vehicles and found the bodies, the gear and the abandoned SUVs....
Who arranges attacks that take advantage of profiling? Our most sophisticated adversary, Iran.

The Associate Press wrote:

A senior Iraqi military official said the sophistication of the attack led him to believe it was the work of Iranian intelligence agents in conjunction with Iraq's Shiite Mahdi Army militia.
deeznutz1245
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Good debate brewing here. Profiling is exterely accurate for crimes already commited, however, as for predicting crimes through profiling I dont see how it can be AS accurate. I still feel it is necessary but it needs to advance more as a social science to be at any level John Douglas would approve of.
Malloy must go
ghettoperson
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Pretty scary stuff that. It does sound like Iran's behind it, as I can't really see regular insurgents having the cash to pull something like that off.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6956|Global Command
Blond?

Russia has never forgiven us for giving the Taliban Stinger missles.

I've no doubt they are involved in Iraq.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6922
What a bunch of conspiracy theorists you are, "I bet it was Iran." "Yeah, totally Iran." "And Russia too! They're commies!". Iranian dealers may have sold the equipment to insurgents, but honestly, it was more likely a local Iraqi group than anyone else.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7193|UK
Iran really is starting to go too far. Tbh atm i would support a UN lead attack on Iran.
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|7167

ATG wrote:

Blond?

Russia has never forgiven us for giving the Taliban Stinger missles.

I've no doubt they are involved in Iraq.
Damn thats it case solved.

Or just maybe a wig or hair dye or a white extermist.
iamangry
Member
+59|7072|The United States of America
Well if they think it was Iranians, why don't we send a cruise missile over the border and hit one of their military outposts?
Fen321
Member
+54|6925|Singularity

iamangry wrote:

Well if they think it was Iranians, why don't we send a cruise missile over the border and hit one of their military outposts?
because there is no proof it was Iranians...hence doing that would be like starting Iraq part II except this time i think we are in for a big surprise in terms of alliances.
Fen321
Member
+54|6925|Singularity

Vilham wrote:

Iran really is starting to go too far. Tbh atm i would support a UN lead attack on Iran.
The UN apposed the Iraq war why would they "change" their minds and support a war against Iran?

Sanctions/Diplomacy/ countermeasures sure all for it go!
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7193|UK
Tbh anyone who's thinks the insurgents can get this kind of equipment without some links to either a country or high level black markets (which are always supported by people in power) is very naive.

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