JimmyBotswana
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+82|7012|Montreal
As of June 30, 2005, about 1 out of every 136 U.S. residents was incarcerated either in prison or jail. The total amount being 2,186,230, with 1,438,701 in State and Federal prisons and 747,529 in local jails.

Compared with other countries, the United States has among the highest incarceration rates in the world. More people are behind bars in the United States than any other country. As of 2006, a record 7 million people were behind bars, on probation or on parole. Of the total 2.2 million were incarcerated. China ranks second with 1.5 million followed by Russia with 870,000. The United States has 5 percent of the world's population and 25 percent of the world's incarcerated population.

As of 2006, the incarceration rate in prison and jail, in the United States was 737 inmates per 100,000 or 1 of every 32 adults. For the most part, the U.S. rate is three to eight times that of the Western European nations and Canada.

source: wikipedia.org

What does this statistic say about American society and its elected government? Is this a positive facet of American life, or a negative one? Can one use this statistic to compare the United States and other totalitarian regimes which typically have high prison counts, or is America's case different? What are some of the possible causes for the seemingly massive prison population in the United States? What consequences, negative or positive, could this have for the future of America?

Last edited by JimmyBotswana (2007-01-28 07:24:20)

deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut
Doeas that mean we have tougher penalties or just more idiots? I personaly think our laws arent strict enough. Criminals dod what they do because they know a slap on the wrist is coming, and when they finally do go to prison, they get more rights and priviliges than some law abiding citizens.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2007-01-28 07:17:48)

Malloy must go
JimmyBotswana
Member
+82|7012|Montreal
I don't know if prison can ever be called a slap on the wrist. I've spent one night in jail, it was enough. I can't imagine years of it.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7027|132 and Bush

Less criminals on the street...you caught us.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut

JimmyBotswana wrote:

I don't know if prison can ever be called a slap on the wrist. I've spent one night in jail, it was enough. I can't imagine years of it.
Agreed, but I was talking about all of the warnings and probations people receive before getting a sentence. If people knew they were going to prison on the 1st offense they wouldnt use their "3strikes" so to speak. Perhaps that might reduce crime. I dont know maybe not.
Malloy must go
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7027|132 and Bush

In many countries, it is common for prisoners to be paroled after serving as little as one third of their sentences. In the US, most states strictly limit parole, requiring at serving of at least half of the sentence. For certain heinous crimes, there is no parole and the full sentence must be served.

Some feel the high levels of incarceration is due to the long sentences mandated under American law, especially for nonviolent crimes like theft and drug possession (see Three-strikes laws).

Simply put criminals get out earlier in most other countries due to their lax sentencing.

JimmyBotswana wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_prison_population
Found it thx.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-01-28 07:28:42)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6878|UK

JimmyBotswana wrote:

As of June 30, 2005, about 1 out of every 136 U.S. residents was incarcerated either in prison or jail. The total amount being 2,186,230, with 1,438,701 in State and Federal prisons and 747,529 in local jails.

Compared with other countries, the United States has among the highest incarceration rates in the world. More people are behind bars in the United States than any other country. As of 2006, a record 7 million people were behind bars, on probation or on parole. Of the total 2.2 million were incarcerated. China ranks second with 1.5 million followed by Russia with 870,000. The United States has 5 percent of the world's population and 25 percent of the world's incarcerated population.

As of 2006, the incarceration rate in prison and jail, in the United States was 737 inmates per 100,000 or 1 of every 32 adults. For the most part, the U.S. rate is three to eight times that of the Western European nations and Canada.

source: wikipedia.org

What does this statistic say about American society and its elected government? Is this a positive facet of American life, or a negative one? Can one use this statistic to compare the United States and other totalitarian regimes which typically have high prison counts, or is America's case different? What are some of the possible causes for the seemingly massive prison population in the United States? What consequences, negative or positive, could this have for the future of America?
Is there a difference in America between prison and jail because the post makes it sounds as if there is i thought they were the same thing is this just by accidents or can someone enlighten me is prison federal and jail not then ?

Last edited by Recoil555 (2007-01-28 07:28:26)

JimmyBotswana
Member
+82|7012|Montreal
prison=jail=state pen=the joint=the slammer=behind bars
Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6878|UK
Basically what i thought thanks for clearing that up.
RedTwizzler
I do it for the lulz.
+124|6963|Chicago
Maybe it's my liberal side coming out here, but I think some of the penalties for prison sentences are kinda harsh. Of course, a murderer or rapist should be put behind bars for life, but I recently read a news story of a man who masturbated in public and got 15 years behind bars. Admittedly, that guy is a goddamn weirdo and a creep, but 15 years? Really? IMO, he should do a year or less, and then be put on probation and be registered as a sex offender.

America is reverting back to the medieval idea of imprisonment: A place to sit and think about what you've done. Instead it should be focusing on the more contemporary idea: A place to sit and think about what you've done, rehabilitate, then get out as a functional member of society.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7027|132 and Bush

Interesting story where did you read it? I googled 15 years/masturbation.. you can imagine my results...lol
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Jasp
Bongabilla
+171|7088|The Outer Circle
US has a high prison population, The UK has no spaces left.. 'tis full!

They're only locking up people who have done something really bad, no if they ain't locking up paedo's then i think I may do over the local electronics store and get me a new PC

..least i will get is a suspended sentence!
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RedTwizzler
I do it for the lulz.
+124|6963|Chicago

Kmarion wrote:

Interesting story where did you read it? I googled 15 years/masturbation.. you can imagine my results...lol
Hahaha, nice.

It was on an episode of the Distorted View Daily comedy podcast. I don't know the episode, but it was pretty recent. Good luck finding it, I guess, but if you need any strange or twisted news story, this is the source.
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6889|meh-land
AHEM

approximately 1/3 of federal prisoners in america are illegal aliens
just an important piece of information that i thought everyone might like knowing
d4rkst4r
biggie smalls
+72|6879|Ontario, Canada

JimmyBotswana wrote:

source: wikipedia.org
Have you no brains? wikipedia isnt a source, wow. Take grade 9 English and you might figure it out.
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Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7192|UK
Wrong it is. Most articles in there are written by people who are working in the area of the article or are doing research on the topic, there are a few that are distorted.

To even think that anything on the internet is a good source is foolish. But Wiki is a damn sight better than most places. Personally I read books, but i aint going to write up 20 pages of a book to show you something that i have read about thus the next best source is wiki.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7198|PNW

JimmyBotswana wrote:

What does this statistic say about American society and its elected government? Is this a positive facet of American life, or a negative one? Can one use this statistic to compare the United States and other totalitarian regimes which typically have high prison counts, or is America's case different? What are some of the possible causes for the seemingly massive prison population in the United States? What consequences, negative or positive, could this have for the future of America?
Totalitarian regimes love sticking people in jail. In America, some criminals love going to jail. Country clubs for the win.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7008|SE London

In the UK the prisons are full. Judges have been instructed not to sentence anyone to jail time if they can possibly avoid it.

Now that is having full prisons.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6793|Columbus, Ohio

Vilham wrote:

Wrong it is. Most articles in there are written by people who are working in the area of the article or are doing research on the topic, there are a few that are distorted.
Wiki is hit or miss, that is why it is a horrible source.  On I few subjects I do know of, they are disturbingly wrong.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7192|UK
That is because we had a phase where all crims were sent to jail, no matter how small the crime.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7192|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Wrong it is. Most articles in there are written by people who are working in the area of the article or are doing research on the topic, there are a few that are distorted.
Wiki is hit or miss, that is why it is a horrible source.  On I few subjects I do know of, they are disturbingly wrong.
Some things that are in there are obviously based upon opinion, however most of the things i look up are based on fact and they are accurate.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7027|132 and Bush

I had actually heard that the UK has a higher violent crime rate the the US.

Edit: found a link http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, … 45,00.html

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-01-28 11:24:44)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7192|UK
I think its that we have a higher crime rate, but a lower violent crime rate. Not sure though, long time since i looked at these things.

k guess thats because of all the drunken chavs at night beating other people up. Happens quite alot. I think the fact i was thinking off was higher violent crime rate but lower homicide rate.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-01-28 11:26:59)

usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6793|Columbus, Ohio

Vilham wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Wrong it is. Most articles in there are written by people who are working in the area of the article or are doing research on the topic, there are a few that are distorted.
Wiki is hit or miss, that is why it is a horrible source.  On I few subjects I do know of, they are disturbingly wrong.
Some things that are in there are obviously based upon opinion, however most of the things i look up are based on fact and they are accurate.
It is good to use as a reference if you want, but when people use it to "win" an argument, it just fails IMO.

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