BF2S Forums Advanced version of the J-10 to be released.

It's pretty!

I see they've gone to twin engines and tailfins.. That should up the reliability/maneuvrability to some degree.
Still has that JAS-Gripen look to it. Probably turns on a dime.

Love it!

_{It remains to be seen if this can be considered as "D&ST"}

Last edited by DonFck (2007-01-19 04:04:00)

<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:

ive seen that pic before

Well, it's a year old..

Wow it still keeps the Cannards from the original J10 did I read thrust vectoring? That will decrease its turn radius largely and with canards that thing will be able to easily double back on itself in a second.

iamangry wrote:

I think you all are getting your performance characteristics from BF2.
As someone in the aerospace field, let me assure you of one thing:

There is no such thing as an air war against the United States.

As someone who was in the US Air Force and around FA-22s a lot, home of the first Raptor squadron, I agree.

iamangry wrote:

I think you all are getting your performance characteristics from BF2.
As someone in the aerospace field, let me assure you of one thing:

There is no such thing as an air war against the United States.

You do know that the Eurofighter outclasses a F15 currently the US's best jet that and the F16. The J10 is based on a eurofighter design and if you know what a cannard is you will find that similarity between both aircraft. Both aircraft are deltawing as well. This new J10 if the current one is compared to a eurofighter will conquer the eurofighter thus concquering any aircraft out yet. The only reason why most say the F22 raptor is so amazing because it has a small stealth capability. Notice small it will not be as good as the F117 who's stealth capability is flawed. But if you want to compare the F22 and Super 10 will have 2 engines capable of changing the direction in which that produce thrust. Both aircraft will have twin tails allowing for a lot of yaw. This already makes both aircraft comparable. However the J10 surpases the F22 in turn capability because it will also have cannards as well as thrust vectoring. This in BF2 would be even better then the current J10. Its agility and ability to multirole will be huge. Its times like these where ignorance shouldn't prevail on paper the Super 10 should be able to take down an F22 in air to air combat. It however isn't that much largely superior because the F22 has some minor stealth technology. Also all the weapon bays including the slot for the cannon open and close which will increase its stealth capability. It can take out 1 aircraft if it is lucky. As most of us know there is already anti stealth tech out there and the F22 will be using deflective stealth which makes it no better then the F117 which was shot down in the balkans by an SA-3 (missle probably made in the 1960-1970 era). Russia is releasing its new SA-400 class missles which have the ability to lock on and track stealth aircraft, Ballistic missles, Normal aircraft. Its stealth aircraft missle warhead will be around the 100 kilogram range with the normal being 180 kilo's and the Anti Ballistic missle warhead being 120 kilograms.

It has enough power to wipe an aircraft out in other words. However it seems like only china will have these Suoer 10's so as long as they are on the "good" side there is nothing to worry about. Now don't think im disrespecting the F22 that thing will be an amazing aircraft it can break the sound barrier without having to use its own afterburners and will easily also outclass anything else the US has. However it wont be in service for quite a while now so don't think that no one will build anything else. My stance here is in the middle both aircraft will be excellent the Super 10 will however exceed the F22's capabilities at Air to Air once the F22 is spotted. The current technology for finding stealth aircraft is available. However there will be hardly any difference between the two aircraft but there would be enough for the super 10 to be called better in its turn radius etc. I am however as well as trying to prove a point balance out the argument and tell most people who think no none can beat us we are the best, that sometimes you get beaten at a certain thing. Also to add to this so far out of aircraft in service the Eurofighter Typhoon outclasses any other aircraft, and the F22 is being added in what a few years? However it seems the F22 will beat the eurofighter typhoon even though its got cannards going for it the non existance in being able to change the direction of thrust puts the F22 on an edge over it in turning capability.

Thanks all I hope my paragraph spacing is big enough I can never tell with this small bar.

They're finally updating the world to reflect the changes in BF2!

Bubbalo wrote:

They're finally updating the world to reflect the changes in BF2!

Ok the J10 wont own the F35 like a super 10 would own an F22. Id compare it to F18 vs J10 just both have that much low hitboxes as the other. The Super 10 will be able to out manuver it. Just slightly.

How do you know so much.

Ok then what about a eurofighter vs f22?

spray_and_pray wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

They're finally updating the world to reflect the changes in BF2!

Ok the J10 wont own the F35 like a super 10 would own an F22. Id compare it to F18 vs J10 just both have that much low hitboxes as the other. The Super 10 will be able to out manuver it. Just slightly.

I was being stupid.  But thanks anyway.

Bubbalo wrote:

spray_and_pray wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

They're finally updating the world to reflect the changes in BF2!

Ok the J10 wont own the F35 like a super 10 would own an F22. Id compare it to F18 vs J10 just both have that much low hitboxes as the other. The Super 10 will be able to out manuver it. Just slightly.

I was being stupid.  But thanks anyway.

I know im not that stupid bubbalo. However I can be a little thick if the topic is not about aviation or some forms of politics.

codeseven.spitfire wrote:

It was reported by Jane's Defence Weekly on 2006-01-09 that a more advanced version of the J-10 is planned, "referred to as the Super-10, with a more powerful engine, thrust-vector control, stronger airframe and passive phased-array radar.

-Paragraph copied from Wikipedia

Sounds interesting, I would love to see this in action, specially if added to Battlefield. A Truly beautiful jet, with a more powerful engine (God knows the J-10 is powerfull enough), stronger airframe (for notoriously evading missles).  Rumored this jet will add a new defenition to the modern day fighter aircraft, capable of demolishing any current U.S. Aircraft, including the newest F22/A Raptor.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … s_F15s.jpg

I just realised the copied from wikipedia is the Super 10 even true? Googling.... "sigh"