BF2S Forums U.S. Troop Morale in Iraq High

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

If morale is so high, why has the suicide rate in the US armed forces doubled within a year?
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-re … sp?id=4372

That would be Vets, not troops currently in Iraq.

Fail.

You neither watched the report or read the whole article
"But its statistics do show the suicide rate in Iraq is double what it was for the US Army in peacetime."

You fail.

"The suicide rate for US soldiers who have served in Iraq is double what it was in peacetime."

Now, it does not take a genius to figure that would happen.

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

Apparently 1/4 of the US armed forces in Iraq have been diagnosed with mental disorders, 40 are evacuated each month with extreme mental disorders and 10% are on drugs to help with mental/sleep problems.

Increasing the length of duty tours and reducing the time between tours according to the US military itself will increase these problems further.

High morale? Doesn't sound like it.

Everyone I know that was in or is still in is just fine.  My guess would be a lot of these guys are National Guard who are fighting instead of just collecting college money.

JahManRed wrote:

If the suicide trend continues upwards as it has been. Then an even larger proportion of current solders will take their own lives when they get home.

A young US Army guy was buried recently who shot himself in the chest while on duty. The military told the press and family he was having girlfriend problems, something both his parents and girlfriend strongly deny.

usmarine2007 wrote:

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

If morale is so high, why has the suicide rate in the US armed forces doubled within a year?
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-re … sp?id=4372

That would be Vets, not troops currently in Iraq.

Fail.

They say 19.9 out of 100 000 kill themselves, vets and active? US army says 13 per 100 000 are on "active duty" so 6.9 out 100 000 are vets if my sums are right. So twice more active solders than vets are killing themselves, so no he doesn't 'Fail'.

I give up with you guys.  You fucking foreigners know everything about the military and those of us who have served and know a shit load of vets and active duty people know nothing.

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

Apparently 1/4 of the US armed forces in Iraq have been diagnosed with mental disorders, 40 are evacuated each month with extreme mental disorders and 10% are on drugs to help with mental/sleep problems.

Increasing the length of duty tours and reducing the time between tours according to the US military itself will increase these problems further.

High morale? Doesn't sound like it.

Everyone I know that was in or is still in is just fine.  My guess would be a lot of these guys are National Guard who are fighting instead of just collecting college money.

I guess I should take your word for it instead of professional psychologists then.

No, please do not take my word, but for god's sake, don't listen to those scam artists.

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

I guess I should take your word for it instead of professional psychologists then.

No, please do not take my word, but for god's sake, don't listen to those scam artists.

The US military are scam artists? That's where this information comes from.

Psychologists are scam artists IMO.  They just hand out emo pills to people.

usmarine2007 wrote:

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

No, please do not take my word, but for god's sake, don't listen to those scam artists.

The US military are scam artists? That's where this information comes from.

Psychologists are scam artists IMO.  They just hand out emo pills to people.

Is this opinion based on anything?

usmarine2007 wrote:

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Psychologists are scam artists IMO.  They just hand out emo pills to people.

Is this opinion based on anything?

The amount of people in this country who get addicted to all those "legal" drugs.  And the amount of money these companies make.  And the amount of "gifts" given to doctors from those companies.

The troop assessments are being done by the military in Iraq not back in some fancy office on nice leather sofas.

Undoubtedly there are drug companies and doctors who are more than happy to drug up everyone who walks near their offices for extra cash, but most psychologists are doing important work helping people with genuine problems.

Right ok. The Psychologists are giving the solders pills that are making them kill themselves?And this so the drug companies can make money? Is that what your trying to say? Its not the trauma, death and lose of comrades thats driving these people over the edge, its pills that are given to the solders. Why do they give them the pills? Are they depressed before they start taking the pills? Do they distribute them randomly to solders or what?

The liberal media and the democrat party have tried everything within their power to destroy the morale of our boys in Iraq but our boys are made of sterner stuff than that. They will stick this thing out until freedom reigns supreme in Iraq. God bless the US marine corps.

ATG, the Waffen SS was all-volunteer (or, something similar to that nature).  Are you arguing that because the Nazis had volunteers murdering Jews during the Holocaust, it was okay?  Of course not, but just trying to counter you're point. 

Also, it's funny how you blame the current state of unrest in Iraq on the Democrats.  Much like Spittle did in another thread.  And when I defended their position, and tried to point out that BOTH parties screwed up, he called me a card carrying democrat, told me about how he's unbiased (LMFAO) and how he is this totally moderate person, despite months worth of posts with clear and obvious evidence to the contrary.  Even Bush's own freakin party was all over his owb carcass last week. 

So please, lmfao, stop blaming the democrats about how they're the cause of chaos in Iraq (a country that has been in virtual civil unrest for the past 1000 years).  It's as funny of an argument as it is idiotic......

Last edited by Spearhead (2007-01-16 13:21:18)

fadedsteve wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Could it be maybe because they see more than what the media picks and chooses?

ATG wrote:

U.S. Troop Morale in Iraq High, Marine Commander Says

No shit...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh … world.html