Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7139|Tampa Bay Florida
The fact that athletes can make so much money is absurd and imho a scandal.  People around the world, whether they be soldiers, reporters, combat correspondents, humanitarian aid workers, etc, put their lives on the line for less than HALF the amount of money that dude makes IN A F*CKING WEEK. 

Call me a communist, socialist, whatever you want, but THIS is where capitalism goes to far.  That man lives better in one week than a soldier who saved an Iraqi family but happens to have PTSD will for the rest of his life.  The system we live in is sick.  It's just sick that someone can be making that much money when there is such unnoticed human suffering all around his ears.  Thousands of people making under 50 grand a year will be more than 5 times the human being that man will ever be.  I don't care if he gives money to charity, why doesn't someone like him actually go out and make a difference?  Why doesn't he put his life on the line?

Last edited by Spearhead (2007-01-12 19:07:36)

UGADawgs
Member
+13|6770|South Carolina, US

Spearhead wrote:

The fact that athletes can make so much money is absurd and imho a scandal.  People around the world, whether they be soldiers, reporters, combat correspondents, humanitarian aid workers, etc, put their lives on the line for less than HALF the amount of money that dude makes IN A F*CKING WEEK. 

Call me a communist, socialist, whatever you want, but THIS is where capitalism goes to far.  That man lives better in one week than a soldier who saved an Iraqi family but happens to have PTSD will for the rest of his life.  The system we live in is sick.  It's just sick that someone can be making that much money when there is such unnoticed human suffering all around his ears.  Thousands of people making under 50 grand a year will be more than 5 times the human being that man will ever be.  I don't care if he gives money to charity, why doesn't someone like him actually go out and make a difference?  Why doesn't he put his life on the line?
Most sports leagues rake in billions of dollars and have a relatively small deduction from profits due to maintenance of facilities, employment of regular people, etc. Hell, in a league where billions of dollars are to be divided among 32 teams each with almost 100 players, I'd want a lot of money. I guess you want to take away the millions from sports athletes and give it to poor people, but that's another debate.

As for soccer, I find sports like that (and basketball and hockey) to be tedious to watch because most of the time it's just running around, and the bad part about it is that you have to watch every second of it because a big play happens in a split second. I like football since you can at least have a good idea when something big is about to happen.
SaladForks
/ph34r
+129|7031|Eastern USA
------Jocks vs Nerds----

Michael Jordan having "retired," with $40 million in endorsements, makes $178,100 a day, working or not.

If he sleeps 7 hours a night, he makes $52,000 every night while visions of sugarplums dance in his head.

If he goes to see a movie, it'll cost him $7.00, but he'll make $18,550 while he's there.

If he decides to have a 5-minute egg, he'll make $618 while boiling it.

He makes $7,415/hr more than minimum wage.

He'll make $3,710 while watching each episode of Friends.

If he wanted to save up for a new Acura NSX ($90,000) it would take him a whole 12 hours.

If someone were to hand him his salary and endorsement money, they would have to do it at the rate of $2.00 every second.

He'll probably pay around $200 for a nice round of golf, but will be reimbursed $33,390 for that round.

Assuming he puts the federal maximum of 15% of his income into a tax deferred account (401k), his contributions will hit the federal cap of $9500 at 8:30 a.m. on January 1st.

If you were given a penny for every 10 dollars he made, you'd be living comfortably at $65,000 a year.

He'll make about $19.60 while watching the 100 meter dash in the Olympics, and about $15,600 during the Boston Marathon.

While the common person is spending about $20 for a meal in his trendy Chicago restaurant, he'll pull in about $5600.

This year, he'll make more than twice as much as all U.S. past presidents for all of their terms combined. Amazing isn't it?

However...
If Jordan saves 100% of his income for the next 450 years, he'll still have less than Bill Gates has today.

$$$ Game over. Nerd wins.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6942|Connecticut

Bertster7 wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Tom Brady is better.
Wrong sport.
I know. Sarcasm. He is still better though.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2007-01-12 19:36:24)

Malloy must go
Big McLargehuge
Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
+259|7052|Philadelphia, PA
David Beckham is the Anna Kournikova of soccer. He isn't really all that great at his sport but he gets a lot of attention and endorsement deals because people find him attractive.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7030|SE London

Big McLargehuge wrote:

David Beckham is the Anna Kournikova of soccer. He isn't really all that great at his sport but he gets a lot of attention and endorsement deals because people find him attractive.
He used to be very, very good. He's a bit old now and doesn't have the stamina these days though.



Still awesome on set pieces.
1927(h)
Guest

Bertster7 wrote:

Big McLargehuge wrote:

David Beckham is the Anna Kournikova of soccer. He isn't really all that great at his sport but he gets a lot of attention and endorsement deals because people find him attractive.
He used to be very, very good. He's a bit old now and doesn't have the stamina these days though.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFIR145trUE[/youtube]

Still awesome on set pieces.
Alonso (liverpool vs luton) fa cup 3rd round last season was even longer.
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6968|Πάϊ
Lots of corporate scum get the same amount of money and you don't even get to see the curve ball... Football is the most popular sport on the planet and thus major business for all involved. I don't see what the fuss is about. Hollywood stars get paid the same to act like morons on the tele, and the amount of money spent in the arms trade is so much greater (but then you get so much more entertainment right?)
ƒ³
=Karma-Kills=
"Don't post while intoxicated."
+356|7033|England
The funny thing is, hes past his prime.
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6938|Gogledd Cymru

1927(h) wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Big McLargehuge wrote:

David Beckham is the Anna Kournikova of soccer. He isn't really all that great at his sport but he gets a lot of attention and endorsement deals because people find him attractive.
He used to be very, very good. He's a bit old now and doesn't have the stamina these days though.



Still awesome on set pieces.
Alonso (liverpool vs luton) fa cup 3rd round last season was even longer.
yeah but it wasnt in the prem, and didnt go straight in without bouncing, or with a "open Goal"
sfarrar33
Halogenoalkane
+57|7067|InGerLand

Ratzinger wrote:

But some seem to think its a dull sport. If this is you, do you have a sporting background? Is there any physical skill you have developed which gives you an insight on how difficult and skilful the game can be?
I am one of those people that thinks it is dull to watch or hear about.
and my 'sporting background' is that I am an amatuer athlete.
There is a football pitch next to our track and i can tell you that half the training sessions i do will be harder than the ones they do, i have never seen a single footballer have to sit down for five minutes because they are excersising so hard nor have i seen one throw up from pushing themselves as hard as we do.
but despite this every single one of them is an arrogant c**t about how great they are because they can kick a ball in the air more than 10 times.
Now i enjoy playing football and i have nothing against anyone who likes the sport, but most people who play it profesionally are tw*ts who are completely unappreciative of how hard other sports are comparatively
seriously i want to see a footballer join a rugby club and try a game, or see one run a 400m race properly and still think that they do the hardest sport in the world and that they are king of the sporting world because they can kick a ball slightly more accurately than other people.
CarltosCool
Member
+1|6846|Middlesbrough, England
Soccer...football rather ¬_¬. Beckham ¬_¬. As my dad keeps professing people are paying him for old rope. I guess he hasn't got into the eBay thing yet.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6998|UK

Vilham wrote:

He isnt popular here either...
Exactly, I remember when his first son was born, a news paper compaired his 1st birthday party to your average one year olds, it was pretty sickening to say the least.  He's shit to, but has huge marketing potential, if I remember he was on over £100,000 (nearly $200,000) a week at manchester united, and probably more at Real madrid, then taking his sponsership, and all the rest, he basically is a money making machine (four million pounds for Gillette adverts and about the same for that pepsi one to).  Most people hate his wife though , not specifially him.

However, Beckham pretty much is as big as they come, so its no real suprise tbh why he commands such a hefty price tag, and heck if the money is on the table, take it!

Martyn
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7100|USA

Spearhead wrote:

The fact that athletes can make so much money is absurd and imho a scandal.  People around the world, whether they be soldiers, reporters, combat correspondents, humanitarian aid workers, etc, put their lives on the line for less than HALF the amount of money that dude makes IN A F*CKING WEEK. 

Call me a communist, socialist, whatever you want, but THIS is where capitalism goes to far.  That man lives better in one week than a soldier who saved an Iraqi family but happens to have PTSD will for the rest of his life.  The system we live in is sick.  It's just sick that someone can be making that much money when there is such unnoticed human suffering all around his ears.  Thousands of people making under 50 grand a year will be more than 5 times the human being that man will ever be.  I don't care if he gives money to charity, why doesn't someone like him actually go out and make a difference?  Why doesn't he put his life on the line?
Hate to be the bubble buster on your soap box drama but, it is those people making under 50 grand a year that is buying those ridiculously high priced tickets that keep these athletes employed. It is the PEOPLE that buy the products that these guys push. It is the PEOPLE that makes these guys bigger than life hero's over firemen, soldiers, policemen EMT's, doctors, nurses, teachers etc.......So, whose responsible for the "over paid" athletes again?? It ain't the athletes I can tell you that much.
Ratzinger
Member
+43|6841|Wollongong, NSW, Australia

sfarrar33 wrote:

Ratzinger wrote:

But some seem to think its a dull sport. If this is you, do you have a sporting background? Is there any physical skill you have developed which gives you an insight on how difficult and skilful the game can be?
I am one of those people that thinks it is dull to watch or hear about.
and my 'sporting background' is that I am an amatuer athlete.
There is a football pitch next to our track and i can tell you that half the training sessions i do will be harder than the ones they do, i have never seen a single footballer have to sit down for five minutes because they are excersising so hard nor have i seen one throw up from pushing themselves as hard as we do.
but despite this every single one of them is an arrogant c**t about how great they are because they can kick a ball in the air more than 10 times.
Now i enjoy playing football and i have nothing against anyone who likes the sport, but most people who play it profesionally are tw*ts who are completely unappreciative of how hard other sports are comparatively
seriously i want to see a footballer join a rugby club and try a game, or see one run a 400m race properly and still think that they do the hardest sport in the world and that they are king of the sporting world because they can kick a ball slightly more accurately than other people.
The bit you're missing is that they run as hard as a middle distance runner and then perform skills that require delicate touch and balance, at top speed.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7290|Cologne, Germany

Are professional athletes in high-profile leagues overpaid ? You bet. Is it their fault ? Of course not.
The leagues generate a lot of revenue, and it is only fair that all of that money will be distributed among the players.
For the owners, it is all about making money, and to achieve that, they have used sophisticated marketing tactics to condition people into spending ridiculous amounts of money on tickets, team merchandise, and cable tv contracts.
If you believe athletes are overpaid, stop watching games on tv, stop buying tickets, throw all of those jerseys away.

As far as Becks is concerned, it can turn out to be a good marketing move for MLS and the Galaxy. He has had a very strong influence on the brand value of every club he has played for so far. Merchandise sales will most likely grow, as will ticket sales. TV audiences may increase, too.
The league will receive more attention.
If I remember correctly, MLS is exepcting to turn profitable within 3 years. 2 of the 13 clubs already working profitably, a third will become so next year.
A lot of kids play soccer in the US. It's a great sport, and I hope more people will catch on as the profile of the MLS sharpens.
dark110
Member
+37|7071|Chicagoland

pedigreeuk wrote:

Not really a waste in my opinion.
It's all about the revenue he will generate for LA Galaxy in just shirt sales not to mention the amount of publicity football will receive while ever he plays, I personally think that his departure from Real Madrid and arrival at Galaxy will spark a huge boost in interest and income for all football clubs in America which can only be a good thing.
YOU THINK THELLY GET BACK $250 MILLION SELLING FUCKING T-SHIRTS!??!!


AHHHHH HAHAHA

https://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7664/dumbassjpgthumbts9.jpg

AHH HA HA!!!
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7290|Cologne, Germany

dark110 wrote:

pedigreeuk wrote:

Not really a waste in my opinion.
It's all about the revenue he will generate for LA Galaxy in just shirt sales not to mention the amount of publicity football will receive while ever he plays, I personally think that his departure from Real Madrid and arrival at Galaxy will spark a huge boost in interest and income for all football clubs in America which can only be a good thing.
YOU THINK THELLY GET BACK $250 MILLION SELLING FUCKING T-SHIRTS!??!!


AHHHHH HAHAHA

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7664 … umbts9.jpg

AHH HA HA!!!
well, of the 250 Million, only 50 are actually his salary and paid for by LA Galaxy / MLS. The rest comes from sponsors. They wouldn't commit that much money if they weren't damn sure it will pay back.

Sure, T-shirts are part of the equasion, but this is a move to strenghten the overall brand name of the MLS. Since it is centrally organized, and revenue is shared among the members, it is to be expected that all MLS teams and soccer in the US as a whole are going to benefit from this move.
Ratzinger
Member
+43|6841|Wollongong, NSW, Australia
If Pele, Beckenbauer, and Cruyff couldn't do it, he sure as hell won't.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7290|Cologne, Germany

Ratzinger wrote:

If Pele, Beckenbauer, and Cruyff couldn't do it, he sure as hell won't.
that was in the 70's, and the US wasn't ready for a professional soccer league back then. Also, the league was a failure financially.

The business plan for the MLS is much better and as of today, it looks like the league will soon work profitably.

And that would have been the case, even if Beckham hadn't signed with LA. But it is still very likely that he - or rather, his presence - will help speed up things over there.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7094

Kmarion wrote:

That's a hell of alot of money to kick a ball? Does anyone else see this as a huge waste?(Especially in America)
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/11/sport … ckham.html

Soccer, not popular here, Beckham not Popular, Posh Spice... not really popular here.

I'm not debating what the better sports are, just the stupidity of dropping this kind of money in a hole.
I know thats what I said on some other thread, if it was some other sport ( other then soccer which is popular in U.S)it would be like oh ok, but soccer is not popular at all in U.S. its like never mentioned on regular tv or cable ESPN .when someone wins a championship in MLS its rarely reported. None of the main tv networks wont buy MLS games  to broadcast,  not even ESPN (maybe over the summer when there is nothing to watch and they have to fill some spot they would play a soccer game just for the hell of it but very rarely) . Any who  they just wasted 250 mill, an average American is going to be like soccer WTF? get the hell out of here? lol

Last edited by blademaster (2007-01-15 05:56:24)

krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7229|Great Brown North
seems a bit much for kicking a ball doesnt it? granted he kicks it pretty well, but its still just kicking a ball around


i like when these assholes go to charities and donate 20k and beg the "normal" people who are just getting by to donate as much as they can.... and then the go buy a fucking hummer limo
Gamematt
Stocking ur medpacks
+135|7111|Groningen, The Netherlands

Kmarion wrote:

That's a hell of alot of money to kick a ball? Does anyone else see this as a huge waste?(Especially in America)
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/11/sport … ckham.html

Soccer, not popular here, Beckham not Popular, Posh Spice... not really popular here.

I'm not debating what the better sports are, just the stupidity of dropping this kind of money in a hole.
If the rig in your sig is the one you own, you really dont have to worry about sports

But I think it's a good transfer, beckham will be happy with the money and if he tries, he might make soccer a bigger sport in the us
sfarrar33
Halogenoalkane
+57|7067|InGerLand

Ratzinger wrote:

The bit you're missing is that they run as hard as a middle distance runner and then perform skills that require delicate touch and balance, at top speed.
true but middle distance runners have to continuously run for much longer
the footballer may run further over the entire match but the fact they get to stand around and have a breather even if just for a few seconds makes a tremendous difference.
IMHO football is much more of a precision sport than a (for lack of a more technical term) hard sport, and i can't really fault it there.
It is just the pure arrogance of footballers in general that does my head in, so many footballers will go on about how hard the sport they do is and how much effort they have to put into it when really they are just prancy models who are good with their feet.

Right take this (surprisingly regular) conversation me and a friend had with these kids (about 13 or 14yrs old) who do football, we were just doing one of our harder sessions (8x200m) and these kids were, well i dno really, just hanging around on some seats next to the finish line for the sake of it. Anyway so one of these kids just randomly asks "so why are you stopping there?" bit of a weird question but we tried to answer it as best we could without sounding sarcastic. Kid then goes "What were you running? whats your top speed? I bet I could run it faster with my eyes closed mate", so feeling a little annoyed 'cos the same kid had earlier overshot the goal by enough so that it went over the 30ft fence behind it and straight onto some long distance runners and yet here he was making claims about how athletic he is, i said "the 200 meters, well we don't measure speed (we measure time[s]) as it's too hard to do, and if you think you can do better then you go ahead and we will time you". Kids just laughs and goes "nah mate nah just done a hard session I'm knackered mate"
it transpired that his session was a few stretches, 4 widths of the pitch (which is about 50m, 4x50=200...) and then they did a few catching exercises where they basically jog along and throw the ball to each other or throw it and try to kick it back into the person's arms before they finish up with a footy game of about 30 minutes.
Now not all football players are that arrogant but unfortunately most are and the ones that are don't deserve a damn penny they 'earn'
scottomus0
Teh forum ghey!
+172|7086|Wigan. Manchester. England.

Towelly wrote:

I_invented_BF2 wrote:

those 250 million dollars are for a 5-year contract. so it's only 50 million dollars a year - or just about 1 million dollar a week..

a lot of celebrities makes more than that, working a hell of a lot less for it..
That's just a transfer fee, he'll be earning upwards of 75k a week if he's getting the same amount as he used to for Real/Utd.
Hes actually getting paid just under 500 grand a week. £50 an hour he will make...

Outragous really. You have surgeons saving peoples lives and getting paid nowere near as much as that.

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