lmao. yes. new york new york!!The Bartenders Son wrote:
ya there can only be "one" like on High Lander... ooo good show!!!!!!!
lol
well im off to bed.. more posting later....
Thats why it's ironic though...[=][=]DADDYOFDEATH wrote:
but also religion supplies certain people with hate. the christians against the jews the islams against the christians...the list goes onMacca wrote:
A World without religion would be a World without hope.The Bartenders Son wrote:
imagine a world without religion well it would be a start
Soldiers praying during war, Women praying over an accident...the list goes on.
Religion supplies the World with a sense of hope, even if it may be false hope.
They all believe in the same God, or have the same God in their religion, and yet they fight for which one is supreme.
When religion is involved in a war, no sides win, yet no side loses. Because, I think I can say, they go on forever.
They fight for their ideals, just like America did/does against the Communists.
One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
The victors of wars are the ones who can deal out the labels.
The victors of wars are the ones who can deal out the labels.
1. Yes, but not stubbornly.The Bartenders Son wrote:
1. Do I stubbornly hold and unashamedly express unpopular beliefs?
2. Do I willfully defy accepted social and cultural norms?
3. Do I conform to what my conscience dictates rather than what religious or governmental authorities dictate?
4. Do I associate with others of a similar persuasion?
2. Yes, depending on the norms in question.
3. Yes, I shit on religious and governmental authorities.
4. Yes, I have friends.
As for you mister bartender, I think you need some good dictionaries and history books.
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It that the best you can come up with? let me help you...oug wrote:
1. Yes, but not stubbornly.The Bartenders Son wrote:
1. Do I stubbornly hold and unashamedly express unpopular beliefs?
2. Do I willfully defy accepted social and cultural norms?
3. Do I conform to what my conscience dictates rather than what religious or governmental authorities dictate?
4. Do I associate with others of a similar persuasion?
2. Yes, depending on the norms in question.
3. Yes, I shit on religious and governmental authorities.
4. Yes, I have friends.
As for you mister bartender, I think you need some good dictionaries and history books.
"After meeting you, I've decided I am in favor of abortion in cases of incest."
"I've seen people like you, but I had to pay admission!"
"Make a mental note . . . oh, I see you're out of paper!"
"Pardon me, but you've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a damn."
"Too bad stupidity isn't painful"
"You should have been born in the Dark Ages; you look terrible in the light."
A graceful taunt is worth a thousand insults."
-Louis Nizer
"I feel so miserable without you, it's almost like having you here."
-Stephen Bishop
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
-Winston Churchill
"A modest little person, with much to be modest about."
-Winston Churchill
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure."
-Clarence Darrow
"He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary."
-William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway)
"Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words?"
-Ernest Hemingway (about William Faulkner)
"Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I'll waste no time reading it."
-Moses Hadas
"His ears made him look like a taxicab with both doors open."
-Howard Hughes (about Clark Gable)
"He is not only dull himself, he is the cause of dullness in others."
-Samuel Johnson
"He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up."
-Paul Keating
"He had delusions of adequacy."
- Walter Kerr
"There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure."
-Jack E. Leonard
"He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know."
-Abraham Lincoln
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it."
-Groucho Marx
"He has the attention span of a lightning bolt."
-Robert Redford
"They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge."
-Thomas Brackett Reed
"He inherited some good instincts from his Quaker forebears, but by diligent hard work, he overcame them."
-James Reston (about Richard Nixon)
"In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily."
-Charles, Count Talleyrand
"Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?"
-Mark Twain
"A solemn, unsmiling, sanctimonious old iceberg who looked like he was waiting for a vacancy in the Trinity."
-Mark Twain
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it."
-Mark Twain
"His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork."
-Mae West
"She is a peacock in everything but beauty."
-Oscar Wilde
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go."
-Oscar Wilde
"He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends."
-Oscar Wilde
Start with that.. then we will talk .. lol and have a nice day
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One mans child molester is another's good time. What is your point?JahManRed wrote:
One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
lol thats one way of looking at itusmarine2007 wrote:
One mans child molester is another's good time. What is your point?JahManRed wrote:
One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
The Bartenders Son wrote:
1. Do I stubbornly hold and unashamedly express unpopular beliefs?
2. Do I willfully defy accepted social and cultural norms?
3. Do I conform to what my conscience dictates rather than what religious or governmental authorities dictate?
4. Do I associate with others of a similar persuasion?
Alright... since you went into all that trouble copy-pasting, lets talk.The Bartenders Son wrote:
It that the best you can come up with? let me help you...
So examples:
1. You can see how the language used here is diminishing for anyone that answers yes right? I mean, why the fuck would you call stubborn and shameful a belief that you haven't even heard yet?
Anyway, moving past the idiotic language: Lets say for the sake of an argument that I hold the unpopular belief that anarchism is not mere trouble making, but a valid political stance. Am I a terrorist?
2. Again for the sake of the argument: Suppose that I feel like being dirty and never wash. Am I a terrorist? (Of smell maybe!!!)
3. Suppose that I engage in premarital sex (against religious authorities) and do not pay taxes. Am I a terrorist?
4. Suppose that in my everyday life, I mingle with people who are equally dirty and defiant of all the above, and we talk about how we like dirt and sex with 18y. olds. Are we a terrorist cell?
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I always voice my opinion whether its popular or not, I don't care its my opinion. I do say things that piss people off, I don't care it's my right. Am I a terrorists NO, I'm a PATRIOT. I proudly served MY COUNTRY, and fought for the right for people to say what they want, the only thing is if you wanna fuck with my COUNTRY, I'M GONNA FUCK WITH YOU!!!
lol .....your just a sick person nowoug wrote:
The Bartenders Son wrote:
1. Do I stubbornly hold and unashamedly express unpopular beliefs?
2. Do I willfully defy accepted social and cultural norms?
3. Do I conform to what my conscience dictates rather than what religious or governmental authorities dictate?
4. Do I associate with others of a similar persuasion?Alright... since you went into all that trouble copy-pasting, lets talk.The Bartenders Son wrote:
It that the best you can come up with? let me help you...
So examples:
1. You can see how the language used here is diminishing for anyone that answers yes right? I mean, why the fuck would you call stubborn and shameful a belief that you haven't even heard yet?
Anyway, moving past the idiotic language: Lets say for the sake of an argument that I hold the unpopular belief that anarchism is not mere trouble making, but a valid political stance. Am I a terrorist?
2. Again for the sake of the argument: Suppose that I feel like being dirty and never wash. Am I a terrorist? (Of smell maybe!!!)
3. Suppose that I engage in premarital sex (against religious authorities) and do not pay taxes. Am I a terrorist?
4. Suppose that in my everyday life, I mingle with people who are equally dirty and defiant of all the above, and we talk about how we like dirt and sex with 18y. olds. Are we a terrorist cell?
well said.........hate&discontent wrote:
I always voice my opinion whether its popular or not, I don't care its my opinion. I do say things that piss people off, I don't care it's my right. Am I a terrorists NO, I'm a PATRIOT. I proudly served MY COUNTRY, and fought for the right for people to say what they want, the only thing is if you wanna fuck with my COUNTRY, I'M GONNA FUCK WITH YOU!!!
All im saying is .. your not a terrorist in your own eyes, but to others ... you can be..oug wrote:
The Bartenders Son wrote:
1. Do I stubbornly hold and unashamedly express unpopular beliefs?
2. Do I willfully defy accepted social and cultural norms?
3. Do I conform to what my conscience dictates rather than what religious or governmental authorities dictate?
4. Do I associate with others of a similar persuasion?Alright... since you went into all that trouble copy-pasting, lets talk.The Bartenders Son wrote:
It that the best you can come up with? let me help you...
So examples:
1. You can see how the language used here is diminishing for anyone that answers yes right? I mean, why the fuck would you call stubborn and shameful a belief that you haven't even heard yet?
Anyway, moving past the idiotic language: Lets say for the sake of an argument that I hold the unpopular belief that anarchism is not mere trouble making, but a valid political stance. Am I a terrorist?
2. Again for the sake of the argument: Suppose that I feel like being dirty and never wash. Am I a terrorist? (Of smell maybe!!!)
3. Suppose that I engage in premarital sex (against religious authorities) and do not pay taxes. Am I a terrorist?
4. Suppose that in my everyday life, I mingle with people who are equally dirty and defiant of all the above, and we talk about how we like dirt and sex with 18y. olds. Are we a terrorist cell?
Thats all..
Ok, ill try to work with your comparison some what.usmarine2007 wrote:
One mans child molester is another's good time. What is your point?JahManRed wrote:
One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
Just depends what state your in. Age of consent goes from 14->18 in the states. Its 16 in England, Scotland & Wales and 17 in Northern Ireland............thats my point. Everyone has there different interpretations of a terrorist just as if you are an 18 year old pervert in Iowa you can get away with having sex with a 14 year old. Here they would lock you up for that. It all comes down to is making the rules on who is a terrorist or pervert.
good point...JahManRed wrote:
Ok, ill try to work with your comparison some what.usmarine2007 wrote:
One mans child molester is another's good time. What is your point?JahManRed wrote:
One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
Just depends what state your in. Age of consent goes from 14->18 in the states. Its 16 in England, Scotland & Wales and 17 in Northern Ireland............thats my point. Everyone has there different interpretations of a terrorist just as if you are an 18 year old pervert in Iowa you can get away with having sex with a 14 year old. Here they would lock you up for that. It all comes down to is making the rules on who is a terrorist or pervert.
Ok.... one mans rapist is another's good time. Better?JahManRed wrote:
Ok, ill try to work with your comparison some what.usmarine2007 wrote:
One mans child molester is another's good time. What is your point?JahManRed wrote:
One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
Just depends what state your in. Age of consent goes from 14->18 in the states. Its 16 in England, Scotland & Wales and 17 in Northern Ireland............thats my point. Everyone has there different interpretations of a terrorist just as if you are an 18 year old pervert in Iowa you can get away with having sex with a 14 year old. Here they would lock you up for that. It all comes down to is making the rules on who is a terrorist or pervert.
Moronic. Comparing patriotism or fighting for a perceived just cause with rape. Truly a debating wizard. By that token a German could say that Americans were as degenerate as rapists during WWII.usmarine2007 wrote:
Ok.... one mans rapist is another's good time. Better?JahManRed wrote:
Ok, ill try to work with your comparison some what.usmarine2007 wrote:
One mans child molester is another's good time. What is your point?
Just depends what state your in. Age of consent goes from 14->18 in the states. Its 16 in England, Scotland & Wales and 17 in Northern Ireland............thats my point. Everyone has there different interpretations of a terrorist just as if you are an 18 year old pervert in Iowa you can get away with having sex with a 14 year old. Here they would lock you up for that. It all comes down to is making the rules on who is a terrorist or pervert.
Fuck off. Sorry I am not up to your video game forum debating standards. Why don't you take the Irish stance of isolationism and stay out of it.CameronPoe wrote:
Moronic. Comparing patriotism or fighting for a perceived just cause with rape. Truly a debating wizard. By that token a German could say that Americans were as degenerate as rapists during WWII.usmarine2007 wrote:
Ok.... one mans rapist is another's good time. Better?JahManRed wrote:
Ok, ill try to work with your comparison some what.
Just depends what state your in. Age of consent goes from 14->18 in the states. Its 16 in England, Scotland & Wales and 17 in Northern Ireland............thats my point. Everyone has there different interpretations of a terrorist just as if you are an 18 year old pervert in Iowa you can get away with having sex with a 14 year old. Here they would lock you up for that. It all comes down to is making the rules on who is a terrorist or pervert.
Why don't you take the recent American stance of bringing 'peace, freedom and prosperity' to others and fire a couple of hundred cruise missiles at me?usmarine2007 wrote:
Fuck off. Sorry I am not up to your video game forum debating standards. Why don't you take the Irish stance of isolationism and stay out of it.CameronPoe wrote:
Moronic. Comparing patriotism or fighting for a perceived just cause with rape. Truly a debating wizard. By that token a German could say that Americans were as degenerate as rapists during WWII.usmarine2007 wrote:
Ok.... one mans rapist is another's good time. Better?
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-11 10:18:17)
Good point. You are a cock in my eyes, but not in your own...The Bartenders Son wrote:
All im saying is .. your not a terrorist in your own eyes, but to others ... you can be..oug wrote:
The Bartenders Son wrote:
1. Do I stubbornly hold and unashamedly express unpopular beliefs?
2. Do I willfully defy accepted social and cultural norms?
3. Do I conform to what my conscience dictates rather than what religious or governmental authorities dictate?
4. Do I associate with others of a similar persuasion?Alright... since you went into all that trouble copy-pasting, lets talk.The Bartenders Son wrote:
It that the best you can come up with? let me help you...
So examples:
1. You can see how the language used here is diminishing for anyone that answers yes right? I mean, why the fuck would you call stubborn and shameful a belief that you haven't even heard yet?
Anyway, moving past the idiotic language: Lets say for the sake of an argument that I hold the unpopular belief that anarchism is not mere trouble making, but a valid political stance. Am I a terrorist?
2. Again for the sake of the argument: Suppose that I feel like being dirty and never wash. Am I a terrorist? (Of smell maybe!!!)
3. Suppose that I engage in premarital sex (against religious authorities) and do not pay taxes. Am I a terrorist?
4. Suppose that in my everyday life, I mingle with people who are equally dirty and defiant of all the above, and we talk about how we like dirt and sex with 18y. olds. Are we a terrorist cell?
Thats all..
Thats all..
P.S. I don't believe for a second that you are over even 16 and that you have been in the military is bullshit. You type like a retarded kid who doesn't know how to speak English correctly.
Because my car does not run off of corned beef and guinness.CameronPoe wrote:
Why don't you take the recent American stance of bringing 'peace, freedom and prosperity' to others and fire a couple of hundred cruise missiles at me?usmarine2007 wrote:
Fuck off. Sorry I am not up to your video game forum debating standards. Why don't you take the Irish stance of isolationism and stay out of it.CameronPoe wrote:
Moronic. Comparing patriotism or fighting for a perceived just cause with rape. Truly a debating wizard. By that token a German could say that Americans were as degenerate as rapists during WWII.
you know answer yes to all of these without the rest of the context and it's just a checklist for whether you are emo or not which i found interestingThe Bartenders Son wrote:
Do I stubbornly hold and unashamedly express unpopular beliefs?
Do I willfully defy accepted social and cultural norms?
Do I conform to what my conscience dictates rather than what religious or governmental authorities dictate?
Do I associate with others of a similar persuasion?
i keep the definition of a terrorist simple: someone who kills and/or harms innocent people (or at least tries to) in the hope of getting others who do not know these people at all to do something against their wishes [old example] people in the world trade centre had little to do with the army, theres a money link, but blowing up some office people to get rid of the army is a bit weak really[old example]
everyone else is a reformist, revolutionary, freedom fighter etc. So muslim extremist clerics can say what they like and you should be able to tell them to f off as much as you like, its when one harms the other in some way that you get the rub and become labelled as a terrorist.
ooo fight *popcorn*
usmarine vs Cameronpoe
ya ya ya
That's a shame. Maybe you need to start developing a car that does.usmarine2007 wrote:
Because my car does not run off of corned beef and guinness.
No thanks.CameronPoe wrote:
That's a shame. Maybe you need to start developing a car that does.usmarine2007 wrote:
Because my car does not run off of corned beef and guinness.