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Well in Ireland I vote for whoever, tactically speaking, will mean that Fine Gael DO NOT get into power. We have multi-party proportional representation over here though, it's not two-party first past the post, so there is more 'skill' involved in voting.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-10 13:14:52)

I vote Republican because I agree with them. However, I may not always agree on how they handle things and go about doing them, but I support their ideals and way of thinking.

ghettoperson wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Well in Ireland I vote for whoever, tactically speaking, will mean that Fine Gael DO NOT get into power. We have multi-party proportional representation over here though, it's not two-party first past the post, so there is more 'skill' involved in voting.

Who are Fine Gael? Some kind of extremist party?

No. There are two main parties: Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael. Then there are the Labour, Green, Progressive Democrat parties and Sinn Féin. Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael are both centre-right parties, but their origins and general manifestos are different in certain regards. Fine Gael are more 'rich farmers' and condescending 'D4' big money types - the party is founded by those that signed the agreement giving up the six counties of Northern Ireland in exchange for independence. Fianna Fáil is founded by those that vehemently disagreed with that agreement, out of which spawned the Irish civil war. Fianna Fáil are the party responsible for breaking all links wiith the UK in 1949, withdrawing from the commonwealth and all that, i.e. copper-fastening our independence. They are a far stronger party when it comes to the Northern Ireland issue. Unlike Fine Gael, whose ex-leader announced 'This is the greatest day of my life' upon the first visit of a British royal (Prince Charles) to the Republic since its foundation - what about his wedding, or perhaps the birth of his children!?? Really both parties have similar economic policies but Fianna Fáil is the moderate republican party when it comes to Northern Ireland (Sinn Féin being the more extreme party and Fine Gael being the people who sold our brethren north of the border out).

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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Where's the option for "I don't side with parties, and vote for candidates instead..."

Ditto.

Libertarians FTW

Turquoise wrote:

Libertarians FTW

Their platform is more scattered than the Republicans' and the Democrats'. Unfortunately, the most you're going to get by voting for them is giving left-leaning parties more of a chance.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Libertarians FTW

Their platform is more scattered than the Republicans' and the Democrats'. Unfortunately, the most you're going to get by voting for them is giving left-leaning parties more of a chance.

...or giving the Republicans a reason to become more liberal on social policies.  I'll be honest...  there are only two reasons why I'm not Republican: the Religious Right and the warmongers.

If Republicans were less uptight on social issues and less hawkish about war, then I'd gladly support their economic positions.

EDIT: As it currently stands, Ron Paul is the only Republican I can say that I truly support on a consistent basis.  I disagree with him on many social issues, but we agree on almost everything else.

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Turquoise wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Libertarians FTW

Their platform is more scattered than the Republicans' and the Democrats'. Unfortunately, the most you're going to get by voting for them is giving left-leaning parties more of a chance.

...or giving the Republicans a reason to become more liberal on social policies.  I'll be honest...  there are only two reasons why I'm not Republican: the Religious Right and the warmongers.

If Republicans were less uptight on social issues and less hawkish about war, then I'd gladly support their economic positions.

EDIT: As it currently stands, Ron Paul is the only Republican I can say that I truly support on a consistent basis.  I disagree with him on many social issues, but we agree on almost everything else.

+1  That's the whole reason I try to avoid voting republican if I can, can't stand the religious and war mongering policies.

Democrats I will never vote for because I disagree with just about everything that democrats seem to side with.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I agree that R/D choices are a bit like Tweedledee vs Tweedledum, but how many people here have voted libertarian and seen their candidate win, and for what office?

I can't deny that you are right when it comes to how Libertarians don't normally win.

However, every party has to start somewhere.  There was a time when the Republicans were just a small party.

Over time, parties evolve.  An important thing to note in the 2006 Midterm Elections is that Libertarians grabbed a larger percentage than ever in several Senatorial and House races.  Some of them could arguably be blamed for the Democratic victories in certain races.  Since I currently view the Democrats as the lesser of two evils, I'm willing to help that occur if it simultaneously aids the party I really favor (Libertarians).

Besides, this "spoiler" argument against 3rd parties is only the result of both parties resisting the implementation of instant runoff voting.  If this was set into place, people could vote for multiple candidates in order of preference.  Click here to find out more: http://www.instantrunoff.com/

Homeschtar wrote:

A little bit of both option 1 and 2.

Atm I'm independent.  But I tend to side with the dems. on most issues...

DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Well in Ireland I vote for whoever, tactically speaking, will mean that Fine Gael DO NOT get into power. We have multi-party proportional representation over here though, it's not two-party first past the post, so there is more 'skill' involved in voting.

Skill in voting? Is there an obsticle course blocking you path to the booth?  Or is voting like the game "duck hunt" -where the guy you want to vote for box moves around on the screen and you have to catch it?

First of all haha at that.

Second: My views are a lot of 3 and a whole lot of 4.  I may not agree with how the Republicans go about things, but I do agree with most of their views.