Racism is an issue in every country, and will be far into the future.
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Is Racism Still An Issue In America?
| Yes | 86% | 86% - 65 | ||||
| No | 13% | 13% - 10 | ||||
| Total: 75 | ||||||
It's because present society favours being white (and male for that matter) so if you're not white and male, you are automatically assumed to be inferior. I don't know the US system so I don't know about your example, but if they do get extra points, it's to take into account the fact that SAT scores are not testing what makes a smart human, they're testing how well you're doing at being just like a smart white male. This isn't my opinion, it's coming out of my background, I've just finished a double major in Psychology and Sociology and you'd be surprised at how incredibly biased a lot of tests are. Fast and easy example, IQ tests - give a standardised IQ test to one person in the USA and one person in the Congo and you can be nearly certain that the person in the Congo will score worse, not because they're less intelligent but because the test is all about things that make sense to everyday American life, not everyday life in the Congo.Jello.01 wrote:
No fucking way! Are you serious?!ReDevilJR wrote:
It goes with (P)SAT scores too, "mark this box if you're African American." Why? if we're "equal" then why do African American's get extra points on their (P)SAT scores?
Another quick example, if you give a minority person a stimulus that prompts them to be reminded they're a minority (a racist speech, or even just an ad where successful people are all white, etc) they will do worse at tests assessing intelligence and leadership ability compared to a minority person who's been given no such input. It's called Stereotype Threat and the problem is even advertising makes it work. So you need balancing for minorities in some cases because they're being told every day by society that they're not as good. If you have access to any online psychology journals, do a search for Stereotype Threat and you'll get a whole host of studies on the subject (There's no point me linking because I can only get to them through my uni library online access).
On the balance of it I personally am not sure if score balancing is the way to go about it. It doesn't solve the problem, which is the underlying racism that makes it necessary. It also tends to raise bitterness because there's this false idea that minorities are somehow getting an easy break, rather than the reality, which is the scheme is just aiming to give minorities a level playing field.
Incidentally, if anyone here doubts that societies are still profoundly racist... there was a journalist a few years back who doubted the extent of racism today, so he went for a day in extremely convincing makeup and etc to look black... suffice to say he was shocked and appalled at how differently he was treated than he had been the day before when he was white. So the ultimate test would be to do what he did. Failing that, if you have friends who are minorities, talk to them, and I mean really talk to them, and find out what *their* experience of racism is.
End of the day my main point is, if you want to know if your society is still racist, ask the minorities. If you don't have the lived experience of being a minority you can read all you want about it but you'll never have any idea what it's really like or how widespread it is.
My girlfriend is filipina and she encounters some truly shocking racism sometimes. Even just small things, like one day she was late, she ran for a train, missed it, and some kids yelled out "Sucked in, you asian mole". Maybe they would have insulted her anyway, but because she's a minority, her race is one of the things they use.
Racism isn't going to go away while people still tolerate or deny it.
Of course it is, and everywhere else also. What kind of question is this?
Sure it's an issue - but it is lessened with each generation. Compare yourself to your parents, compare yourself to your grandparents...
well if everyone would just have a drink.. it would go away.. or would it?
Racism is still quite strong in America and EVERYONE is guilty of it at one time or another. With so many media stigma's and double-standards it's hard to avoid racism, and it will be a part of society forever. That is until every race has melted into one.
in the poll you ask if it is an issue, then you ask if it's apparent. which question do you want answered?Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
I recently watched a few documentaries on CNN and have to say I was surprised at the amount of racism that was founded. People would say things that would seal them as a racist then come back with "but Im not racist".
It even went as far as job applicants names. John and Robert are hired before Darius and Shiniqua even though they have the same qualifications.
So, would you say racism is still apparent in American society?
i am never "guilty". and there will never be a melted race into one.BeerzGod wrote:
Racism is still quite strong in America and EVERYONE is guilty of it at one time or another. With so many media stigma's and double-standards it's hard to avoid racism, and it will be a part of society forever. That is until every race has melted into one.
That is until every race has melted into one. <---- Thats sick! o .. wait does that thought make me racist ?
hmmm.. Ill have another drink and think about it...
hmmm.. Ill have another drink and think about it...
That is the most idiotic thing I have ever seen someone say about racism. They are NOT based on what a WHITE MALE should know, rather an educated person should know. As far as education, the Whit Male has more to overcome then any other race or sex in the U.S.. Ever heard of the United Negro College Fund? I have never heard of the the United Caucasion College Fund. And, if a caucasion should apply for a scholarship from the U.N.C.F., they would be denied (based on the color of their skin, wich in fact is the definition of racism).he_who_says_zonk wrote:
It's because present society favours being white (and male for that matter) so if you're not white and male, you are automatically assumed to be inferior. I don't know the US system so I don't know about your example, but if they do get extra points, it's to take into account the fact that SAT scores are not testing what makes a smart human, they're testing how well you're doing at being just like a smart white male. This isn't my opinion, it's coming out of my background, I've just finished a double major in Psychology and Sociology and you'd be surprised at how incredibly biased a lot of tests are. Fast and easy example, IQ tests - give a standardised IQ test to one person in the USA and one person in the Congo and you can be nearly certain that the person in the Congo will score worse, not because they're less intelligent but because the test is all about things that make sense to everyday American life, not everyday life in the Congo.Jello.01 wrote:
No fucking way! Are you serious?!ReDevilJR wrote:
It goes with (P)SAT scores too, "mark this box if you're African American." Why? if we're "equal" then why do African American's get extra points on their (P)SAT scores?
I am not a racist, and have many minority friends with whom I have discussed this issue with. Most of the agree with me, and beleive that racism isn't always perpetrated by the majority. I have seen more instances of racism from the hands of the minority, then I have seen against the minority.
It's a Hard life being white.. Everyone expects so much from you..