ATG
Banned
+5,233|6954|Global Command
Wars have been fought for economic reason throughout history, and it could be that the war in Iraq is no different.
Personally, I'm allright with it, as long as we are being honest with ourselves. This isn't just about freedom for the Iraqis, it's about making sure the worlds third largest oil supply doesn't fall into the hands of Islamo terrorist.
I'm okay with this. How about you?
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/mid … 132569.ece
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6888|meh-land
There is nothing wrong with it, it means less oil for terrorists to fun themselves (still got saudi arabia but nothing we can do about that ATM) and maybe we can damage the other middle eastern oil industry and try and reduce terrorist funding a lot.
commissargizz
Member
+123|6889| Heaven
No I'm not happy about dying for rich executive or fancy shareholders because they have money and I don't. Their war they fight it.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6954|Global Command
Its not about rich share holders. It's about asswipes like OBL not having the funds to build or buy nukes.
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6955|Sydney, in 1978
i just wish we had the worlds largest oil reserve, then i wouldnt have to pay $1.15AUD per litre. But yea, better we have the oil than the terroists, im againe the even more devastating suicide bombing if they had control of all that oil.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6954|Global Command
Google againe, but don't know what you mean, try again.
commissargizz
Member
+123|6889| Heaven
Then control the flow of money to terrorists better, it can be done.
Prevention is better than cure. Would you be happy to die for oil, no, sorry not oil but so the rich can have a even bigger mansion or their eighth car, or their nice exclusive fur coat, or a watch that costs more than some third world country's national economy.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6954|Global Command

commissargizz wrote:

Then control the flow of money to terrorists better, it can be done.
Prevention is better than cure. Would you be happy to die for oil, no, sorry not oil but so the rich can have a even bigger mansion or their eighth car, or their nice exclusive fur coat, or a watch that costs more than some third world country's national economy.
How can it be done?
As far as the oil tycoons; they can have a splintery stick straight up their asses.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7100|Canberra, AUS

ATG wrote:

commissargizz wrote:

Then control the flow of money to terrorists better, it can be done.
Prevention is better than cure. Would you be happy to die for oil, no, sorry not oil but so the rich can have a even bigger mansion or their eighth car, or their nice exclusive fur coat, or a watch that costs more than some third world country's national economy.
How can it be done?
As far as the oil tycoons; they can have a splintery stick straight up their asses.
QFT

It is obviously of vital importance that all oil reserves are held on to, oil is probably the second most important commodity in the world (after money)
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
commissargizz
Member
+123|6889| Heaven
I don't have time to explain how it can be done (work calls boohoo) but google it and see how some Governments are tracking money, be more careful IT CAN BE DONE.
Oil is money, the people do not own the companies, rich people do, so who is to benefit?
If what you say is the case we need to invade Saudi Arabia as they are the biggest (private citizens) contributer to people like Bin-Ladin.
Have a nice day
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7026|132 and Bush

It is important to stress that these decisions are being made by the Iraqi govenment.

Iraq's massive oil reserves, the third-largest in the world, are about to be thrown open for large-scale exploitation by Western oil companies under a controversial law which is expected to come before the Iraqi parliament within days.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7182|Argentina

ATG wrote:

Wars have been fought for economic reason throughout history, and it could be that the war in Iraq is no different.
Personally, I'm allright with it, as long as we are being honest with ourselves. This isn't just about freedom for the Iraqis, it's about making sure the worlds third largest oil supply doesn't fall into the hands of Islamo terrorist.
I'm okay with this. How about you?
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/mid … 132569.ece
You are having the right attitude ATG, you know why this war began in the first place and you aren't being hypocrite and you say "this war is about oil and I'm Ok with that".  Some of your leaders should do the same.
Macca
Cylons' my kinda frak
+72|6870|Australia.
Maybe instead on spending billions to fund wars in the East. Maybe those billions could be spent on renewable resources such as Wind turbines, solar power, etc. Maybe finding better ways to manufacture environmentally and economically friendly vehicles.

Forget oil, it's not going to be around forever.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7026|132 and Bush

Are you guys familiar with the coal to oil program?
http://tinyurl.com/yzj9gl

38 states in the U.S. have coal reserves (Source )http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/coal/reser … ter1a.html
On an equivalent energy basis, we have a larger energy resource base of coal than the OPEC nations have of oil.

There are approximately 240 billion tons of recoverable coal in the US, equal to ¼ of the world’s coal reserves Coal will last twice as long as the combined crude oil and natural gas reserves at current usage rates. The price of coal is relatively stable compared to other fossil fuels due to its abundance.

I think it important to consider this as an alternative when you take into account Iran has told us that they will ensure CBL will be in excess of 110 USD if we continue to pursue sanctions.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-01-07 05:31:19)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6980
Afraid I don't agree. That's tantamount to imperialism which I will never agree with. There are alternatives to oil and we have the technological wherewithall (but not the inclination) to develop different methods of harnessing the energy available to us on this planet. At the moment oil is of so much concern because oil is the commodity upon which our money is basically based - it keeps the landed classes in power because if you control oil you control the world. If a cheap alternative was developed then traditional power structures would be smashed wide open.

Every nation should be as self-sufficient as is humanly possible.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-07 07:09:09)

Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7071
It's not like we simply take the oil as our own.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6920
Right its about keeping oil away from terrorists. . It isn't about the physical oil, it's about how the oil is sold, particularly, in what currency.

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