Apoc-SAS
rebmeM
+39|6398|Scotland
I'm planning to by a new PC but that will take a while to save for.  At the moment i am getting really low FPS and general shitiness - choppy/laggy whatever its called.  I was reading the topic "New PC or just new GFX card " and as he had AGP  and everyone said buy a x1950. I had a real desire to buy one thinking it would solve the problem for now, would it?.  Would more RAM help this or does it just do load times? Should i do anything or just save that money and get my new PC sooner?

Intel P4 2.8GHz
1GB DDR
nvidea 6600 GT 256MB (AGP)

(I play BF2 and 2142 pretty much all on low)
pers0nah
Waste Kid
+271|6592|MANCHESTERRR
I would say another gig of RAM, but i know nothing
spud924
Member
+12|6463|The Sticks, WA, USA
buy a new graphics card but if you do i dont know how long it will last you considering you have agp. Is this thing home built or made by the devil (dell)?

EDIT: more ram would help but not by much considering it is not your bottleneck. I used to run on 1 gig and it worked on medium settings with a little stutter on a x700 PRO. what speed does you ram run at? you can use cpuz if you dont know.

Last edited by spud924 (2007-01-06 17:47:31)

Apoc-SAS
rebmeM
+39|6398|Scotland
close to the devil i suppose - eMachines.

Graphics card and RAM are not the originals.  oh nor is the PSU its 500W.

EDIT:

spud924 wrote:

i dont know how long it will last you considering you have agp.
I know my PC is wrong for everything when it comes to upgrading to all the new stuff. (DDR2, dual core, PCI-e etc)  I'm willing to sort of waste money to get a little bit more out of it untill I can save for a new one.

Last edited by Apoc-SAS (2007-01-06 17:48:52)

spud924
Member
+12|6463|The Sticks, WA, USA
i would get a new mobo (if it fits in your case) and if not get a new case. Then you can get a decent pcie card like a 7600GT which is good for the money and should run on high

EDIT: well you can start upgrading the one you have and eventually you will have a new computer

Last edited by spud924 (2007-01-06 17:50:28)

Reciprocity
Member
+721|6591|the dank(super) side of Oregon
It depends on how much you're willing to spend.  $1000USD will get you a very good rig that will play BF2 maxed out.  even less money if you have a few decent carry-over parts, i.e. case, PSU, drives.

edit: I put this list together a few weeks ago on another thread.  Newegg only does US orders but you get the idea.

mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813131043        $125

RAM   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820145098        $210

CPU   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819115004        $225       

GPU   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814130061        $250 w/rebate

PSU   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6817153023        $30 w/rebate

HD     http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822136062        $60

Case  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6811133174        $40

Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6827106992        $25

Total:  $960 with room for shipping. 


can you use your old HD? Optical drive? case? you could also skimp on the ram and save ~$100.  You could also save some cash on a weaker GPU.  Have Fun!


forgot to mention:
this setup is vista ready.  it will play bf2, 2142 and any other game very well on a reasonable monitor.  If you don't dl too much porn, that HD should be plenty big enough.  The mobo is not SLI capable.  Any kind of upgrade in the GPU would require a better PSU.  The only thing possibly lacking in this system is the sound.  The onboard is sufficient.  but an upgrade to this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6829102188
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6829102005

would provide a very noticeable improvement.

Last edited by Reciprocity (2007-01-06 19:50:48)

Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6559|UK

Agreed, 7600GT APG card will do wonders to that system, but a P4 is a bitch of a CPU, especially for gaming (I know I had one, 3.2ghz HT bullshit).  To be honest, you can either slowly upgrade or buy a whole new system all together, ur own unique circumstances will pick what you do for ya, but that system certainly needs a major overhaul to run the games of 2007, and indeed 06, as u say ur running low with a bad FPS. 

A quick fix solution is the 7600GT, will do wonders but you will defo want a PCI-e mobo, and dx10 card (coming down in price, and more modles on the way) faster and more RAM, and basically everything else with bigger numbers   But that is obvious.  I think a new rig to be honest would be best and that is what I did, but can totally see why other guys slowly upgrade there rig, but I would suggest new rig from ground up, less incompatibility issues, and u get ur kick ass system in the one go, rather than slowly getting better, but that is just me.

More RAM would actually allow u to run on a higher setting mate, usually you can only get high with a 2gb system, but some manage it on 1-1.5GB

That system above will cost us scots people more mate 8-), but a £1000 system here will run everything on high, or maybe a BIT less if u self build, I saved a bundle on my self build, about 30% over a similar Alienware.

Martyn
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6776|Cambridge (UK)
An X1950 is going to handle higher quality settings no problem, but then your 1GB ram is going to be the limiting factor. I would go for a ram upgrade now - you may even find you can up the settings on your current 6600...

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-01-06 18:14:58)

Reciprocity
Member
+721|6591|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Bell wrote:

That system above will cost us scots people more mate
sucks to be a Scot?
claor
Member
+39|6425|Australia
another gig of ram, and a X1950 will go well mate.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6559|UK

Reciprocity wrote:

Bell wrote:

That system above will cost us scots people more mate
sucks to be a Scot?
Meh, in the UK we tend to pay more for stuff than out dear American friends   Still my country totally owned the Romans so there

Martyn
Apoc-SAS
rebmeM
+39|6398|Scotland
Thanks for all the help. More still welcome while i think about what to do.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6776|Cambridge (UK)

Bell wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

Bell wrote:

That system above will cost us scots people more mate
sucks to be a Scot?
Meh, in the UK we tend to pay more for stuff than out dear American friends   Still my country totally owned the Romans so there

Martyn
LOL I think you'll find the romans built a fuck-off-great-big-wall to keep you all out of england 'cos you're all such fucking loonatics! I guess you could call that 'owning the romans'...

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2007-01-06 18:30:40)

majorassult
I <3 ak101
+307|6673|under there hayousaidunderwear
Reciprocity your links are all broken
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6591|the dank(super) side of Oregon

majorassult wrote:

Reciprocity your links are all broken
yeah, I just noticed that.


......there, all fixed up

Last edited by Reciprocity (2007-01-06 19:51:15)

Apoc-SAS
rebmeM
+39|6398|Scotland

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

LOL I think you'll find the romans built a fuck-off-great-big-wall to keep you all out of england 'cos you're all such fucking loonatics! I guess you could call that 'owning the romans'...
..and they wanted to keep us away from England cause we owned them when they tried to come into Scotland.
Apoc-SAS
rebmeM
+39|6398|Scotland
Another question, do you get motherboards which take my current RAM and CPU but will allow me to upgrade to DDR2 and dual core?

EDIT: After a search i figured if i got a new mobo/new case/new RAM but not too much/new PCI-e gfx card.  Use my old drives/PSU/CPU.  Then a little later i can get a new CPU and more RAM.  good idea?

Last edited by Apoc-SAS (2007-01-07 06:17:39)

Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6559|UK

The CPU is to much of a bottleneck and will undo many of your upgrades as it to be honest is shit, plus I dont think there are many (if any mobo's that support P4 and C2D processors) there two different technologies.  What does your PSU push out?  I would suggest nothing less than a 500W, but keeping your old HD's would be fine, though you may wanna replace them eventually though, with faster higher capacity drives.  Finially the RAM idea could work, as long as it is fast enough, but again, your choking your system quite a bit if it has dodgey speed's, Sub 250mhz which my old P4 system had.......  Then again that is to be expected in a gradual upgrade lol

Martyn

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