Poll

How Would You Act?

I would cooperate45%45% - 5
I would defect54%54% - 6
Total: 11
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7184|Argentina
The Prisoner's dilemma was originally framed by Merrill Flood and Melvin Dresher working at RAND in 1950. Albert W. Tucker formalized the game with prison sentence payoffs and gave it the "Prisoner's Dilemma" name (Poundstone, 1992).

The classical prisoner's dilemma (PD) is as follows:

Two suspects, A and B, are arrested by the police. The police have insufficient evidence for a conviction, and, having separated both prisoners, visit each of them to offer the same deal: if one testifies for the prosecution against the other and the other remains silent, the betrayer goes free and the silent accomplice receives the full 10-year sentence. If both stay silent, both prisoners are sentenced to only six months in jail for a minor charge. If each betrays the other, each receives a two-year sentence. Each prisoner must make the choice of whether to betray the other or to remain silent. However, neither prisoner knows for sure what choice the other prisoner will make. So this dilemma poses the question: How should the prisoners act?
The dilemma can be summarized thus:

                                                 Prisoner B Stays Silent                                          Prisoner B Betrays
Prisoner A Stays Silent             Both serve six months                 Prisoner A serves ten years Prisoner B goes free
Prisoner A Betrays         Prisoner A goes free Prisoner B serves ten years                Both serve two years

The dilemma arises when one assumes that both prisoners only care about minimizing their own jail terms. Each prisoner has two options: to cooperate with his accomplice and stay quiet, or to defect from their implied pact and betray his accomplice in return for a lighter sentence. The outcome of each choice depends on the choice of the accomplice, but each prisoner must choose without knowing what his accomplice has chosen to do.

Let's assume the protagonist prisoner is working out his best move. If his partner stays quiet, his best move is to betray as he then walks free instead of receiving the minor sentence. If his partner betrays, his best move is still to betray, as by doing it he receives a relatively lesser sentence than staying silent. At the same time, the other prisoner's thinking would also have arrived at the same conclusion and would therefore also betray.

If reasoned from the perspective of the optimal outcome for the group (of two prisoners), the correct choice would be for both prisoners to cooperate with each other, as this would reduce the total jail time served by the group to one year total. Any other decision would be worse for the two prisoners considered together. When the prisoners both betray each other, each prisoner achieves a worse outcome than if they had cooperated.

This can be applied to almost any situation in your life.  How would you act?

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-01-02 06:50:55)

Stormscythe
Aiming for the head
+88|6976|EUtopia | Austria
The chances that I'd be the one of the two that could keep his mouth shut are very low. I fear, I'd cooperate.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7184|Argentina

Stormscythe wrote:

The chances that I'd be the one of the two that could keep his mouth shut are very low. I fear, I'd cooperate.
Remember, if you cooperate you must keep your mouth shut, if you talk you are defecting.  The cooperation is between the two prisoners.
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6973|Doncaster, UK
Defecting is an insurance policy. If you defect the maximum sentence you can get is 2 years, if you stay quiet there is a 50% chance of 10 years.

I'd defect.
KylieTastic
Games, Girls, Guinness
+85|6879|Cambridge, UK

Why would you get 10 years for not pointing the finger, and two if both do? In the real world I would defend my own innocence, and get a good enough lawyer to point out even if the other guy pointed the finger it would most likley just be out of fear of getting 10 years and thus would count for nothing.
Sorry but there are many real world dilemmas this is just daft
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7184|Argentina

KylieTastic wrote:

Why would you get 10 years for not pointing the finger, and two if both do? In the real world I would defend my own innocence, and get a good enough lawyer to point out even if the other guy pointed the finger it would most likley just be out of fear of getting 10 years and thus would count for nothing.
Sorry but there are many real world dilemmas this is just daft
This is one of the best known dilemmas in the World, and it applies to real life in many situations.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-01-02 09:06:12)

Stormscythe
Aiming for the head
+88|6976|EUtopia | Austria

sergeriver wrote:

Stormscythe wrote:

The chances that I'd be the one of the two that could keep his mouth shut are very low. I fear, I'd cooperate.
Remember, if you cooperate you must keep your mouth shut, if you talk you are defecting.  The cooperation is between the two prisoners.
Oh, then my vote goes otherwise - I thought to cooperate with the police. -.-

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