Poll

Self Defense (Not Gun Related), Do you think self defense is valid?

Yes95%95% - 246
No4%4% - 11
Total: 257
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987
This argument is going in circles.  Lowing, I've already talked that over.  Deeznutz, try re-reading your posts.  Cyborgninja........we hate each other, is there anything more to say?
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut

Stormscythe wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Stormscythe wrote:

Better don't visit a weapons exhibition with your family. ;-)

PS: If that on the pic in your sig there is you, I'm potentially a bigger danger to myself
Hhhmm. Well lets see a picture of you Bubbalo, Im sure you wont post it though. And there is no need to visit an arms show with my family. I have a nice little cache in my home.
Misunderstood and misunderstood.

Nvm, and a happy new year
No I understood him.
Malloy must go
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987
Seriously, are you trying to be funny, or can you just not read?
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut

Bubbalo wrote:

This argument is going in circles.  Lowing, I've already talked that over.  Deeznutz, try re-reading your posts.  Cyborgninja........we hate each other, is there anything more to say?
Why does the hate award go to the ninja? I think we hate eachother more, dont you?
Malloy must go
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987
Meh............he kind of had a point.  And besides, I'm pretty sure he thinks I'm a Chinese govt. sympathiser, which is a pretty big deal seeing as how he lives in Taiwan.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut
I can read, I just think storm said what he wanted to say wrong. He said self defense should only apply when death is the next step. I know what he meant to say but I put my $.02 in anyway in the spirit of the festivities. You, on the other hand, I just hate because you are such a smart ass for someone who still has to take the garbage out to avoid getting grounded.
Malloy must go
apollo_fi
The Flying Kalakukko.
+94|6957|The lunar module
aaaaaaaaaaaargh...

A Right is a right, right? I have a right to turn right if I want to, right? If I want to right any wrongs, I have every right to do so. It is my right to punch a quick right to the face of an attacker.

Right-ho.

Right.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I can read, I just think storm said what he wanted to say wrong.
Then why did you talk to me?

deeznutz1245 wrote:

You, on the other hand, I just hate because you are such a smart ass for someone who still has to take the garbage out to avoid getting grounded.
Oh, wow, we're guessing on my age again.  I love laughing at people when we play this game!  I think current guesses range from 2 to 12, what's yours?
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut

Bubbalo wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I can read, I just think storm said what he wanted to say wrong.
Then why did you talk to me?

deeznutz1245 wrote:

You, on the other hand, I just hate because you are such a smart ass for someone who still has to take the garbage out to avoid getting grounded.
Oh, wow, we're guessing on my age again.  I love laughing at people when we play this game!  I think current guesses range from 2 to 12, what's yours?
2-12 ....no I would guess more of the 17-21 bracket. I have announced my age to you before, it was the last time you asked and it is still 28. You never did say yours though which is why I fuck with you and the doing chores bit.
Malloy must go
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987
32, fyi.

Edit:  Also, I've never asked your age.  Or anyone's for that matter.

Last edited by Bubbalo (2007-01-01 10:34:05)

deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut
Do you have a family. This goes back to the unanswered question I asked  you on the last page . I am now being serious, all kidding aside. Have you ever been a victim of assault (or ur family) and if so, how did you handle it?
Malloy must go
A-Unit64
King Medic......
+23|7267
I think you are allowed you use a weapon in self defense if the other person does too
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987
Yes.  I rammed a fried chicken up his ass, then laughed.

This has no relevance to the discussion.  I'm not disputing whether defending yourself is the right thing.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7142
Ok STFU and stop derailing the thread.

Self defense is a right. That is my opinion.
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deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes.  I rammed a fried chicken up his ass, then laughed.

This has no relevance to the discussion.  I'm not disputing whether defending yourself is the right thing.
I think it does have relavance, some people maintain a certain view until an experience changes their line of thought. I am wondering wether that is the case or not.
Malloy must go
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6793|Columbus, Ohio

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes.  I rammed a fried chicken up his ass, then laughed.
Leave your sex life out of this please.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Ok STFU and stop derailing the thread.
Who's derailing the thread?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987

usmarine2007 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes.  I rammed a fried chicken up his ass, then laughed.
Leave your sex life out of this please.

Kmarion wrote:

2.  I will not intentionally attack another person on an individual level.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6793|Columbus, Ohio

Bubbalo wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes.  I rammed a fried chicken up his ass, then laughed.
Leave your sex life out of this please.

Kmarion wrote:

2.  I will not intentionally attack another person on an individual level.
Twas not intentional.  I have no idea what you are talking about, tis just a guess.

Last edited by usmarine2007 (2007-01-01 10:40:33)

Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7142

Bubbalo wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Ok STFU and stop derailing the thread.
Who's derailing the thread?
You and Deeznutz.
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Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes.  I rammed a fried chicken up his ass, then laughed.

This has no relevance to the discussion.  I'm not disputing whether defending yourself is the right thing.
I think it does have relavance, some people maintain a certain view until an experience changes their line of thought. I am wondering wether that is the case or not.
For the last time:

I AM NOT DISPUTING WHETHER IT IS APPROPRIATE TO DEFEND ONESELF

Besides which, even if an event does change your opinion, it doesn't mean you were wrong to start with.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Ok STFU and stop derailing the thread.
Who's derailing the thread?
You and Deeznutz.
What the fuck are you on?  We're discussing whether or not defending oneself is a right.  That is the point of the thread.
Stormscythe
Aiming for the head
+88|6975|EUtopia | Austria

deeznutz1245 wrote:

I can read, I just think storm said what he wanted to say wrong. He said self defense should only apply when death is the next step.
... and I though we were talking about lethal self-defence here. No lethal consequence for the attacker, as long as he didn't intend to kill me.
If it's just about 'you get what you wanted to give' I'm pro, of course. I will engage in a fight brought upon me as long as I stand a chance - but I think everyone would engage in a superior position...

And right, I was a bit astonished when you addressed me with 'Bubbalo'...
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6919|Connecticut

Bubbalo wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes.  I rammed a fried chicken up his ass, then laughed.

This has no relevance to the discussion.  I'm not disputing whether defending yourself is the right thing.
I think it does have relavance, some people maintain a certain view until an experience changes their line of thought. I am wondering wether that is the case or not.
For the last time:

I AM NOT DISPUTING WHETHER IT IS APPROPRIATE TO DEFEND ONESELF

Besides which, even if an event does change your opinion, it doesn't mean you were wrong to start with.
Then what is your arguement?
Malloy must go
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6987

Bubbalo wrote:

I think the big issue here is that a lot of people are failing to properly comprehend the passage.  It states that self-defence is not a right in and of itself, but that violating another's rights if they are attempting to violate yours is justifiable.  Which makes perfect sense: defending your rights isn't a specific right, but the whole concept of a right implies that such a right can be defended.

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