I don't know how many times I've given people this link, but:Parker wrote:
can i get some help from all of you guys that know what the hell you are doing?
i found some barebone computers at tigerdirect.com
i think they have everything except video cards ram stuff like that which isnt to hard to do.
so could i get some help from you guys if i decide to do this?
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-12-30 18:58:19)
To be specific on voltage, also check with the motherboard's downloadable manual and the RAM manufacturer to verify compatibility, as well as tech sites for possible test results using said combo. You also forgot to mention the importance of getting a good PSU and (usually), a battery backup. Additionally, I've never cared for the word "interface" being attached to "GPU" and "HDD." Usually, you'd just assign "interface" concepts like that as being a function of the operating system.Reciprocity wrote:
go to newegg and build it yourself. start with cpu, then mobo, ram, gpu(s), power supply, hard drive(s), DVD drive(s), case. top end rig will be >$1600, ~$1300 for mid range, <$1000 for a lower end, not counting the monitor.
biggest thing to remember is mobo compatability. cpu socket, ram type and voltage range, gpu interface, HD interface.
and dont skimp on the psu. If it comes with your case, it's shit, don't even bother using it.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-12-30 20:40:59)
Link me an article or something!!! thats nuts!LockerFish wrote:
That they're run by arab companies(not that that alone is necessarily bad) and there was a raid or something of a suspicious factory somewhere in chicago because locals were reporting a lot of suspicious looking Middle easter people going to a fro and into the warehouse and of course, they assumed the worst, which wasn't far from the truth in this instance. It ended up being one of the TigerDirect "distribution centers"but there was a lot of fraudulant activity going on. Also they've been known to partake in shady business dealings. Put it this way, you hear a lot of rumors about drug sales going to fund terrorism, why couldn't that be happening with a computer parts resaler?
Long story short, you could be buying stolen merchandise and just look at their catalog, there are so many spelling and grammar mistakes, would you trust someone that can't spell with your money?
the last sentence I wrote:unnamednewbie13 wrote:
To be specific on voltage, also check with the motherboard's downloadable manual and the RAM manufacturer to verify compatibility, as well as tech sites for possible test results using said combo. You also forgot to mention the importance of getting a good PSU and (usually), a battery backup. Additionally, I've never cared for the word "interface" being attached to "GPU" and "HDD." Usually, you'd just assign "interface" concepts like that as being a function of the operating system.
well, when I say interface, I'm talking about the physical connection between the component and the mobo, but I suppose that for the completely inept, it may be a little confusing. although most unknowledged people don't even know what GUI means.Reciprocity wrote:
and dont skimp on the psu. If it comes with your case, it's shit, don't even bother using it.
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Actually, for the completely inept, the word "interface" will serve only to draw blank stares. And GUI? Some of the people I work with struggle with the concept of "icon." You can try to explain something, but unless they ask they usually don't even want to know.Reciprocity wrote:
the last sentence I wrote:unnamednewbie13 wrote:
To be specific on voltage, also check with the motherboard's downloadable manual and the RAM manufacturer to verify compatibility, as well as tech sites for possible test results using said combo. You also forgot to mention the importance of getting a good PSU and (usually), a battery backup. Additionally, I've never cared for the word "interface" being attached to "GPU" and "HDD." Usually, you'd just assign "interface" concepts like that as being a function of the operating system.Completely missed that in my rush to run out for Mexican food. Sorry.Reciprocity wrote:
and dont skimp on the psu. If it comes with your case, it's shit, don't even bother using it.
well, when I say interface, I'm talking about the physical connection between the component and the mobo, but I suppose that for the completely inept, it may be a little confusing. although most unknowledged people don't even know what GUI means.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-12-30 22:09:15)
What you don't understand is it doesn't stop at "connecting a bunch of components to a mobo." But alright, it sounds like you want to learn. Great! Let's give you a leg up:Parker wrote:
wow, thanks for all the responses thus far.
newbie, i read some of the stuff and while i dont understand what everything does, i do understand that your basically connecting a whole bunch of components to a mobo.
i make knives for a living, so i know how to work with my hands and im a very quick learner.
the things im having trouble with is if i get type A processor then what type of other components does that limit me to? i just dont understand how i am supposed to choose between so many different types of the same component.
like ram for example. ddr2, ddr3, all the mhz shit. i dont know what any of that means and i dont know how it will effect my pc.
anway, my budget for this PC is $1000 american.
i already have keyboard/mouse/monitor so ill just need the tower.
im sorry if i seem retarted, this just isnt my thing yet. thanks again for the help so far guys.
It's more complex than that. The names "Intel and AMD" alone cover a gigantic spectrum of products, some of which are more outdated than a grandmother's quilt. I can't count how many times I've seen people tell newcomers to the custom-building industry to go with Intel, then seen the newbies come back with "alright, I found a Pentium 3" or some other such "for sale." Then there's the video cards. "dud go nvidia" sometimes, yes, even in 2006, results in an "alright, now what about this 5200?" And while I agree that DDR is rapidly becoming a thing of the past, what with the failure of top-notch DDR to significantly drop in price, there are many kinds and brands of DDR2 to choose from, some of which are slow and unreliable and some of which are blazingly fast. Then there's the motherboard itself. You'll be looking at what chipset it has, what (sometimes) revision it's in, and what all memory has been proven to run stable with it. For a headache-free experience, every component should be analyzed online for potential issues and solutions. Then the fun begins...installation of the OS. If all goes well, great! Now you just have to get all of your drivers and network settings installed and configured without difficulty. And, if you haven't done your research, sit there with a disgusted look on your face while some random component fails while you try to figure out which one it is.spud924 wrote:
basically you have two choices Intel or AMD.
as for the ram you will probably go for some ddr2 because ddr will become outdated and the new motherboards coming out mostly only support ddr2.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-12-30 22:43:08)
Dont intimidate any future PC builders research yeah sure but im quite sure you can put off a lot of people from building their own PC which is better then buying a constructed one. And research is a must but it seems like you set them up with too much problems as long as your system covers the requirements and you have bought a legal OEM of XP not a 2nd hand one or even a non OEM XP it will all be ok. And as long as you RTFM you will be ok. (Read the freakin or f*ckin manual) (most Linux users are used to this)unnamednewbie13 wrote:
What you don't understand is it doesn't stop at "connecting a bunch of components to a mobo." But alright, it sounds like you want to learn. Great! Let's give you a leg up:Parker wrote:
wow, thanks for all the responses thus far.
newbie, i read some of the stuff and while i dont understand what everything does, i do understand that your basically connecting a whole bunch of components to a mobo.
i make knives for a living, so i know how to work with my hands and im a very quick learner.
the things im having trouble with is if i get type A processor then what type of other components does that limit me to? i just dont understand how i am supposed to choose between so many different types of the same component.
like ram for example. ddr2, ddr3, all the mhz shit. i dont know what any of that means and i dont know how it will effect my pc.
anway, my budget for this PC is $1000 american.
i already have keyboard/mouse/monitor so ill just need the tower.
im sorry if i seem retarted, this just isnt my thing yet. thanks again for the help so far guys.
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And whatever you decide to go with, be sure someone somewhere has tested your desired configuration before you commit to a purchase, otherwise you'll have to sit through a nightmare of RMA. Just remember: do your bloody friggin' research.It's more complex than that. The names "Intel and AMD" alone cover a gigantic spectrum of products, some of which are more outdated than a grandmother's quilt. I can't count how many times I've seen people tell newcomers to the custom-building industry to go with Intel, then seen the newbies come back with "alright, I found a Pentium 3" or some other such "for sale." Then there's the video cards. "dud go nvidia" sometimes, yes, even in 2006, results in an "alright, now what about this 5200?" And while I agree that DDR is rapidly becoming a thing of the past, what with the failure of top-notch DDR to significantly drop in price, there are many kinds and brands of DDR2 to choose from, some of which are slow and unreliable and some of which are blazingly fast. Then there's the motherboard itself. You'll be looking at what chipset it has, what (sometimes) revision it's in, and what all memory has been proven to run stable with it. For a headache-free experience, every component should be analyzed online for potential issues and solutions. Then the fun begins...installation of the OS. If all goes well, great! Now you just have to get all of your drivers and network settings installed and configured without difficulty. And, if you haven't done your research, sit there with a disgusted look on your face while some random component fails while you try to figure out which one it is.spud924 wrote:
basically you have two choices Intel or AMD.
as for the ram you will probably go for some ddr2 because ddr will become outdated and the new motherboards coming out mostly only support ddr2.
$1000 ... so lets get a compatible mobo+proc+memory selected. Currently, as a fact Intel is C2Ds are the fastest.Parker wrote:
wow, thanks for all the responses thus far.
newbie, i read some of the stuff and while i dont understand what everything does, i do understand that your basically connecting a whole bunch of components to a mobo.
i make knives for a living, so i know how to work with my hands and im a very quick learner.
the things im having trouble with is if i get type A processor then what type of other components does that limit me to? i just dont understand how i am supposed to choose between so many different types of the same component.
like ram for example. ddr2, ddr3, all the mhz shit. i dont know what any of that means and i dont know how it will effect my pc.
anway, my budget for this PC is $1000 american.
i already have keyboard/mouse/monitor so ill just need the tower.
im sorry if i seem retarted, this just isnt my thing yet. thanks again for the help so far guys.
Last edited by jsnipy (2006-12-30 23:45:56)
Look, if you want a kiss-up, just go find a sycophantic salesman somewhere who's willing to foist some junker on you.Parker wrote:
unnamednewbie,
you know when someone asks for help, it doesnt really accomplish anything by trying to act cool cause you know about computers.
every response youve had to this thread has been some smart ass reply about "you dont know how many times blah blah blah" then dont fucking post.
just because i dont know how to build a computer doesnt mean shit.
just because i make badass knives for living and shoot machine guns on a weekly basis doesnt mean shit.
just because you know how to build computers and do whatever it is that you do doesnt mean shit.
your no better than anyone else because of your knowledge.
so thanks for your responses, but you can shove it up your ass. i hope you feel smarter, or superior or whatever false sense you were trying to achieve.
have fun with your computers, and please the next time you want to feel smart try actually doing something, instead of trying to belittle people.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-12-31 02:25:48)
