BF2S Forums Now, Would the French change there postion on this struggle?

lowing wrote:

Lets see, to the best of my knowledge FRANCE isn't involved in this struggle, yet the terrorists were going to blow up a train in their tunnel.

'Their tunnel' is quite a stretch. It was a joint British and French venture. Britain is quite high up on terrorist hit lists. Your point is moot.

I've got an idea. Have a proper strategy for the war on terror, involving economic incentives for countries to give up terrorists hiding there and more international intelligence cooperation. Fabricated intelligence is not the right sort of tool to be using.

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Lets see, to the best of my knowledge FRANCE isn't involved in this struggle, yet the terrorists were going to blow up a train in their tunnel.

'Their tunnel' is quite a stretch. It was a joint British and French venture. Britain is quite high up on terrorist hit lists. Your point is moot.

I've got an idea. Have a proper strategy for the war on terror, involving economic incentives for countries to give up terrorists hiding there and more international intelligence cooperation. Fabricated intelligence is not the right sort of tool to be using.

Oh so you must think the terrorists will only blow the tunnel when their are no French citizens on the trains............My point is intact!

I do agree that more needs to be done on the economic level, hold mre countries feet to the fire to take action against terror cells training in their countries.

I hate it when people use "there" instead of "THEIR."

EDIT: Sorry if English isn't your first language.

Last edited by Darkhelmet (2006-12-24 15:19:33)

lowing wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/24/tunnel.target.ap/index.html

Keep your heads in the sand boys and girls. Keep watching and criticizing and do nothing. This will soon turn into the equivalent of holding water with a strainer. Lets see, to the best of my knowledge FRANCE isn't involved in this struggle, yet the terrorists were going to blow up a train in their tunnel. Sounds like appeasement ain't gunna work either. Anyone else got another idea??

Oh man, the british claim the big bad terrorists are gonna attack again, just like that airplane plot right? The one with the bomb that required highly sensitive chemical reactions that could never take place on a plane. The one with the terrorists who were caught, but never charged and eventually set free. Right. The highly credible british intelligence.

lowing wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

lowing wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/24/tunnel.target.ap/index.html

Keep your heads in the sand boys and girls. Keep watching and criticizing and do nothing. This will soon turn into the equivalent of holding water with a strainer. Lets see, to the best of my knowledge FRANCE isn't involved in this struggle, yet the terrorists were going to blow up a train in their tunnel. Sounds like appeasement ain't gunna work either. Anyone else got another idea??

Oh man, the british claim the big bad terrorists are gonna attack again, just like that airplane plot right? The one with the bomb that required highly sensitive chemical reactions that could never take place on a plane. The one with the terrorists who were caught, but never charged and eventually set free. Right. The highly credible british intelligence.

I can't help but think you are disappointed that they were prudent enough to take action and that the plots didn't actually materialize.

After 911 happened all of you were screaming about all the signs that went ignored and claiming it MUST be a conspiracy. So, which is it?? Prudent action or let it happen?? Finally, once and for all, what will make you happy?

The british air plot was fabricated. If it was 'prudent action' why didn't they charge any of the alleged conspirators? What would make me happy is an uncorrupt government that can be trusted not to create a thousand different coverups or undertake false flag operations. In otherwords, a decent government consisting of decent people. Sadly that won't happen in America.

jonsimon wrote:

The british air plot was fabricated. If it was 'prudent action' why didn't they charge any of the alleged conspirators? What would make me happy is an uncorrupt government that can be trusted not to create a thousand different coverups or undertake false flag operations. In otherwords, a decent government consisting of decent people. Sadly that won't happen in America.

okay so the british government want to lose huge amounts of £, properly millions, just because they wanna convince a already pretty calm country that they are right. i don't think so.

firstly the air plot had a huge impact on the british airline bussiness and the country in general in lost ticket sales,
turist sites not being visited ect. they lost millions of £ on this, it just dosn't make sense. they could calm the country in so many other ways that would be cheaper and more effective, instead of just slowly cripling their economy.

Drakef wrote:

lowing wrote:

Drakef wrote:

If I may understand you best, you are criticizing France because they were appeasing terrorists? In what capacity do you mean that? Additionally, this "struggle"- Iraq? Which, by invading that country, has only invited more terrorist attacks?

France has a history of appeasement, where do you think all the French surrender jokes come from?? They want to help nobody, yet expect to the world to coming running when it is their asses on the line.

How exactly do the French "want to help nobody, yet expect to the world to coming running when it is their asses on the line"? And what appeasement do you speak of? Czechoslovakia, in 1938? The French surrender jokes come from the Second World War. All I see is general anti-French remarks without cause, unless you are willing to prove your points. Do you really think that there would be no attacks on French soil if they continued along a different path, one similar to the United States perhaps? There is no basis for that argument.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies2.htm

http://www.thbz.org/e2/french_surrender.php

Ok your turn. Who has the French aided militarily, significantly, in the past 100 years except themselves?

No I am saying THERE WOULD be attacks on Frech soil regardless of their appeasement.

Last edited by lowing (2006-12-24 18:10:43)

lowing wrote:

Drakef wrote:

lowing wrote:

France has a history of appeasement, where do you think all the French surrender jokes come from?? They want to help nobody, yet expect to the world to coming running when it is their asses on the line.

How exactly do the French "want to help nobody, yet expect to the world to coming running when it is their asses on the line"? And what appeasement do you speak of? Czechoslovakia, in 1938? The French surrender jokes come from the Second World War. All I see is general anti-French remarks without cause, unless you are willing to prove your points. Do you really think that there would be no attacks on French soil if they continued along a different path, one similar to the United States perhaps? There is no basis for that argument.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/allies2.htm

http://www.thbz.org/e2/french_surrender.php

Ok your turn. Who has the French aided militarily, significantly, in the past 100 years except themselves?

No I am saying THERE WOULD be attacks on Frech soil regardless of their appeasement.

seriously stop bashing the French it helps no one....if anything ask yourself why America can invade a country and ignore the UN...then turn around and use that same body as a means for placing sanctions on other nations.

The Islamic militants see the west as all being the same regardless of whether invidual western countrys support a war or not; to them, France is a valid target.

Lowing, I realised today that some conservatives have taken up complaining because they like to complain - and oppose the left for the sake of opposition.

ENOUGH.

Ok grammar Nazis calm down.

sergeriver wrote:

This is the Lowing's Academic Dictionary (you may contribute as well):

Liberal: the worst disease the World has ever seen.
Conservative: the cure to the Liberal disease.
French: pussy.
Terrorist: anyone who is not fighting against terrorists.
Junior: shut up asshole.
Left: a dark place.  You don't want to go there.  Lowing's car only turns to the right.
America: a country which lives in permanent DEFCON 1.

PS: More words to be added.  Sorry for the alphabetic disorder, but the first word in Lowing's Academic Dictionary is Liberal.

now yer gettin' it Serge...If you  are not fighting AGAINST terrorism then you are indeed HELPING terrorism.

Liberal.correct
Conservative. maybe
French. correct, see also appeaser and spineless, and surrender
terrorist.correct
Junior. nope only meant to be just as disrespectable as is shown me
Left.correct, except my car will turn left as well if it has to
America.nope on the contrary I like DEFCON 5 and I am willing to fight to keep it there. How 'bout you?

Last edited by lowing (2006-12-25 08:10:03)