CameronPoe
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Thousands More Dead In Continuing Iraq Victory

America marks three and a half years of winning in Iraq, and nearly 3,000 victory deaths

December 18, 2006

Statistics released by the Department Of Defense estimated that 2,937 U.S. troops and over 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died in the ongoing American military victory in Iraq.

https://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Thousands-More-R.article.jpg

General George Casey, Jr. lauds "another plainly measurable step" in America's victory.

"Victory deaths are at a higher level than we had anticipated, yes," Gen. George Casey, Jr. said at a press conference shortly after the figures were released. "But one of the crucial lessons of our Vietnam experience is that a victory, in order to remain victorious, can't be abandoned halfway through, or in the case of Iraq, one-eighth of the way through."

"And significantly more troops may be required if we are to continue to enjoy that victory, especially if this turns into an all-out civil war," Casey added, stressing that it was still too early to deem the victory a "quagmire."

Debate continues over whether U.S. troops should be withdrawn from the Iraqi theater of victory. While some in Congress argue that a withdrawal would force Iraqi leadership to enforce the victory on their own, many military experts say that Iraqi troops remain insufficiently trained and unprepared to handle the daily perils of victory.

President Bush has consistently warned that if we hand over victory to local forces right away, there's a risk that victory may worsen, as Iraqis won't be able to contend with the guerrilla attacks and improvised explosive devices that claim the lives of dozens of the victorious every day.

"We're paying dearly in the form of American lives," Bush said, "but, plainly speaking, that's just victory for you."

Casey's remarks came nearly two weeks after some 200 Iraqi Shi'ites died in a series of car bombs in Baghdad's Sadr City, the largest single victory-related death toll since the U.S. won the Iraq War in 2003.

In an address to the nation Dec. 10, President Bush predicted that, if efforts continue as they have in Iraq, "This could become America's longest victory ever," Bush said.




...courtesy of 'The Onion: America's Finest News Source'

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-12-21 03:15:49)

ATG
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+5,233|6538|Global Command
Iraq is a victory, militarily. It's the peace we are losing.
Jenkinsbball
Banned
+149|6558|USA bitches!
More of a reason to pull out and start dropping hydrogen bombs
joker3327
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You know all this  Campaigning about Iraq and the Americans losing it is getting Fucking boring ....and the threads are usually started by some idiot that has never been but just like to fucking argue!!!
CameronPoe
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joker3327 wrote:

You know all this  Campaigning about Iraq and the Americans losing it is getting Fucking boring ....and the threads are usually started by some idiot that has never been but just like to fucking argue!!!
You do realise that the article posted is satirical?
arabeater
Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?
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joker3327 wrote:

You know all this  Campaigning about Iraq and the Americans losing it is getting Fucking boring ....and the threads are usually started by some idiot that has never been but just like to fucking argue!!!
Seconded over and over and over man.
Kmar
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CameronPoe wrote:

joker3327 wrote:

You know all this  Campaigning about Iraq and the Americans losing it is getting Fucking boring ....and the threads are usually started by some idiot that has never been but just like to fucking argue!!!
You do realise that the article posted is satirical?
I did, I read the whole thing..lol
'The Onion: America's Finest News Source'
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joker3327
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CameronPoe wrote:

joker3327 wrote:

You know all this  Campaigning about Iraq and the Americans losing it is getting Fucking boring ....and the threads are usually started by some idiot that has never been but just like to fucking argue!!!
You do realise that the article posted is satirical?
Yes I did mate but there a people out there who just want to whinge and whine and any opportunity with a title like that is game...
oChaos.Haze
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LOL.  I read that, saw the onion at the bottom, and just sat here waiting for some pro war hawks to freak out at it.  And low and behold, it worked.
King_County_Downy
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They like to kill eachother a lot. I think that's a pretty good K/D ratio myself. I'd even go as far as to say that's a REALLY GOOD K/D ratio. How is it that some people think we're losing this again? The numbers speak for themselves.
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joker3327
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See always one trying to bait.......
oChaos.Haze
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King_County_Downy wrote:

They like to kill eachother a lot. I think that's a pretty good K/D ratio myself. I'd even go as far as to say that's a REALLY GOOD K/D ratio. How is it that some people think we're losing this again? The numbers speak for themselves.
Well it could be that the article is fake.  Or it could be that the people we kill aren't armies.  This isn't a war, so it can't be judged like one.  A war is a battle between 2 or more ARMED FORCES.  Since there's only one in this situation, I think it qualifies as something else.  And thirdly, it could be because W did a speech on an aircraft carrier in front of a huge VICTORY banner, and yet 3 years later, we're losing more troops and civilians than we were that day. 

I'm not even inherently against the war, I just think that it's a shitty situation.  I mean basically now, there are 2 groups going at each other, and we're playing the middlemen, and it sucks.  This is all based off my best friend's comments about Iraq when he got home.  I really don't know anything.

Last edited by oChaos.Haze (2006-12-21 08:39:49)

King_County_Downy
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We should stop calling them civilians, and start calling them Athiests. Then those numbers would really reflect on our victory.
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kr@cker
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oChaos.Haze wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

They like to kill eachother a lot. I think that's a pretty good K/D ratio myself. I'd even go as far as to say that's a REALLY GOOD K/D ratio. How is it that some people think we're losing this again? The numbers speak for themselves.
Well it could be that the article is fake.  Or it could be that the people we kill aren't armies.  This isn't a war, so it can't be judged like one.  A war is a battle between 2 or more ARMED FORCES.  Since there's only one in this situation, I think it qualifies as something else.  And thirdly, it could be because W did a speech on an aircraft carrier in front of a huge VICTORY banner, and yet 3 years later, we're losing more troops and civilians than we were that day. 

I'm not even inherently against the war, I just think that it's a shitty situation.  I mean basically now, there are 2 groups going at each other, and we're playing the middlemen, and it sucks.  This is all based off my best friend's comments about Iraq when he got home.  I really don't know anything.
mission at that time= remove saddam from power=mission accomplished

new mission=assist in securing iraq while new government is established=mission ongoing

it took us, what, 12 years to sort out a constitution, and they did it in 2, and they've had 3 successful elections, hardly a loss
oChaos.Haze
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kr@cker wrote:

oChaos.Haze wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

They like to kill eachother a lot. I think that's a pretty good K/D ratio myself. I'd even go as far as to say that's a REALLY GOOD K/D ratio. How is it that some people think we're losing this again? The numbers speak for themselves.
Well it could be that the article is fake.  Or it could be that the people we kill aren't armies.  This isn't a war, so it can't be judged like one.  A war is a battle between 2 or more ARMED FORCES.  Since there's only one in this situation, I think it qualifies as something else.  And thirdly, it could be because W did a speech on an aircraft carrier in front of a huge VICTORY banner, and yet 3 years later, we're losing more troops and civilians than we were that day. 

I'm not even inherently against the war, I just think that it's a shitty situation.  I mean basically now, there are 2 groups going at each other, and we're playing the middlemen, and it sucks.  This is all based off my best friend's comments about Iraq when he got home.  I really don't know anything.
mission at that time= remove saddam from power=mission accomplished

new mission=assist in securing iraq while new government is established=mission ongoing

it took us, what, 12 years to sort out a constitution, and they did it in 2, and they've had 3 successful elections, hardly a loss
Yeah I definately see what your saying.  Here's something.  If they are able to hold elections, why don't we just solve this now?  Let's hold an election wherein the Iraqi people vote on what THEY want us to do.  If they say stay, then all the tree huggers would have to shut their crusty mouths.  And if they voted leave, all the hawks would have to think about who to destroy next.   I mean, let's just put it out there and see, because ultimately, I would think this should be up to the Iraqi's.

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