Parker
isteal
+1,452|6819|The Gem Saloon

oug wrote:

Guantanamo is a concentration camp.
lol, funny guy.


oh and the dollar will be fine, i have no worries about that.
and i can almost promise that europe will be kicking themselves in the ass when the shit hits the fan with iran.
hope no investors put all their eggs in one basket..............
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7045|London, England
I don't think you can go as far as saying Gitmo is a concentration camp, it's a pretty bad POW/not-so-POW camp nonetheless.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6819|The Gem Saloon

crimson_grunt wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Are you comparing Gitmo to a concentration camp?
If its not what is is it?

Definitions of a concentration camp:
A place for assembling and confining political prisoners and enemies of a nation.

Internment centre established by a government to confine political prisoners or members of national or minority groups for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment.

concentration camp, a detention site outside the normal prison system created for military or political purposes to confine, terrorize, and, in some cases, kill civilians.

a penal camp where political prisoners or prisoners of war are confined (usually under harsh conditions)
im pretty sure that GITMO is a fucking picnic compared auschwitz....dont let your hatred for america make you look silly.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6792|Columbus, Ohio

Parker wrote:

im pretty sure that GITMO is a fucking picnic compared auschwitz....dont let your hatred for america make you look silly.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7141

usmarine2007 wrote:

Parker wrote:

im pretty sure that GITMO is a fucking picnic compared auschwitz....dont let your hatred for america make you look silly.
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SpaceApollyon
Scratch where it itches
+41|6944|Finland

Parker wrote:

crimson_grunt wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Are you comparing Gitmo to a concentration camp?
If its not what is is it?

Definitions of a concentration camp:
A place for assembling and confining political prisoners and enemies of a nation.

Internment centre established by a government to confine political prisoners or members of national or minority groups for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment.

concentration camp, a detention site outside the normal prison system created for military or political purposes to confine, terrorize, and, in some cases, kill civilians.

a penal camp where political prisoners or prisoners of war are confined (usually under harsh conditions)
im pretty sure that GITMO is a fucking picnic compared auschwitz....dont let your hatred for america make you look silly.
Aaah, the old "We might be bad, but they are worse" defense.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6819|The Gem Saloon
no, its the old "We might be bad, but youre glad were not cause your whole continent would have been spitting german for the next ooooohhhhhhh 960 something years."
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7045|London, England
It's kinda silly that people are actually proud to be better than Nazi Germany and are making comparisons, you shouldn't be using friggin Nazi Germany as a benchmark in the first place.

It's like me saying look at me i'm better than a tramp. lol. So what if you're better than the lowest common denominator...not exactly a great feat is it.

Hehe...Mek just saying.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2006-12-19 07:45:29)

usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6792|Columbus, Ohio

SpaceApollyon wrote:

Parker wrote:

crimson_grunt wrote:


If its not what is is it?

Definitions of a concentration camp:
A place for assembling and confining political prisoners and enemies of a nation.

Internment centre established by a government to confine political prisoners or members of national or minority groups for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment.

concentration camp, a detention site outside the normal prison system created for military or political purposes to confine, terrorize, and, in some cases, kill civilians.

a penal camp where political prisoners or prisoners of war are confined (usually under harsh conditions)
im pretty sure that GITMO is a fucking picnic compared auschwitz....dont let your hatred for america make you look silly.
Aaah, the old "We might be bad, but they are worse" defense.
Oh, so if we dont toss women and children in ovens, we are no better than the nazi's in our treatment of prisoners?  Maybe we should test biological weapons on them like the Japs did to allied prisoners.  Lets take away their custom meals and religious freedom and toss them in an oven since we are no better.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7141

Mekstizzle wrote:

It's kinda silly that people are actually proud to be better than Nazi Germany and are making comparisons, you shouldn't be using friggin Nazi Germany as a benchmark in the first place.

It's like me saying look at me i'm better than a tramp. lol. So what if you're better than the lowest common denominator...not exactly a great feat is it.

Hehe...Mek just saying.
Well, then why do people start yelling USA is the equivalent of Nazi Germany?
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Parker
isteal
+1,452|6819|The Gem Saloon
oh im sorry, i must have been confused when someone compared GITMO to concentration camps...........i was pretty sure that the nazis are the most prevelant group to have used concentration camps..........
he he....im just saying
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6819|The Gem Saloon

usmarine2007 wrote:

SpaceApollyon wrote:

Parker wrote:


im pretty sure that GITMO is a fucking picnic compared auschwitz....dont let your hatred for america make you look silly.
Aaah, the old "We might be bad, but they are worse" defense.
Oh, so if we dont toss women and children in ovens, we are no better than the nazi's in our treatment of prisoners?  Maybe we should test biological weapons on them like the Japs did to allied prisoners.  Lets take away their custom meals and religious freedom and toss them in an oven since we are no better.
no shit man, if were so bad and lack all the morals and prinicples that the rest of the world does then why havent we nuked iraq and turned it into a gas station.....why didnt we ignore the brits when spitfires were falling like rain???
and why the fuck would we keep those piece of shit animal terrorists alive??
crimson_grunt
Shitty Disposition (apparently)
+214|7079|Teesside, UK

Parker wrote:

im pretty sure that GITMO is a fucking picnic compared auschwitz....dont let your hatred for america make you look silly.
I don't hate Americans, when did i say i did?  I like a lot about America with the exception of some of it's foreign policies.

People disagreeing with things your country does doest mean they hate you.  Oh and for the record Britain's just as bad, i despise our government equally.
Stormscythe
Aiming for the head
+88|6974|EUtopia | Austria

usmarine2007 wrote:

oug wrote:

Guantanamo is a concentration camp.
oh my
Don't mix up concentration with annihilation.

The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed. defines concentration camp as

   " a camp where non-combatants of a district are accommodated, such as those instituted by Lord Kitchener during the South African war of 1899-1902; one for the internment of political prisoners, foreign nationals, etc., esp. as organized by the Nazi regime in Germany before and during the war of 1939-45 "

Does the bold part not fit Guantanamo?

Still, the US are not to be compared with Nazi-Germany, there are more things which distinguish them than those that they have in common. That would start off with a manic leader, against a moronic leader...

Last edited by Stormscythe (2006-12-19 07:55:32)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7045|London, England

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

It's kinda silly that people are actually proud to be better than Nazi Germany and are making comparisons, you shouldn't be using friggin Nazi Germany as a benchmark in the first place.

It's like me saying look at me i'm better than a tramp. lol. So what if you're better than the lowest common denominator...not exactly a great feat is it.

Hehe...Mek just saying.
Well, then why do people start yelling USA is the equivalent of Nazi Germany?
Yeah I know but i'm just saying...
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6792|Columbus, Ohio

Stormscythe wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

oug wrote:

Guantanamo is a concentration camp.
oh my
Don't mix up concentration with annihilation.

The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed. defines concentration camp as

   " a camp where non-combatants of a district are accommodated, such as those instituted by Lord Kitchener during the South African war of 1899-1902; one for the internment of political prisoners, foreign nationals, etc., esp. as organized by the Nazi regime in Germany before and during the war of 1939-45 "

Does the bold part not fit Guantanamo?
As far as I know, these guys were not rounded up in Ohio or Montana and taken to gitmo.  They were taken from the battlefield or were part of terrorist groups.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6819|The Gem Saloon

crimson_grunt wrote:

Parker wrote:

im pretty sure that GITMO is a fucking picnic compared auschwitz....dont let your hatred for america make you look silly.
I don't hate Americans, when did i say i did?  I like a lot about America with the exception of some of it's foreign policies.

People disagreeing with things your country does doest mean they hate you.  Oh and for the record Britain's just as bad, i despise our government equally.
well i hope for your countrys sake that you can bring a better argument about their issues than you did about GITMO.
that was a silly statement, and quite honestly shows a few things about yourself, whether you would like to admit them or not.





sometimes i think it is annoying that our countries influence spans the entire globe.
SpaceApollyon
Scratch where it itches
+41|6944|Finland

usmarine2007 wrote:

SpaceApollyon wrote:

Parker wrote:

im pretty sure that GITMO is a fucking picnic compared auschwitz....dont let your hatred for america make you look silly.
Aaah, the old "We might be bad, but they are worse" defense.
Oh, so if we dont toss women and children in ovens, we are no better than the nazi's in our treatment of prisoners?  Maybe we should test biological weapons on them like the Japs did to allied prisoners.  Lets take away their custom meals and religious freedom and toss them in an oven since we are no better.
Im not saying that you are as bad the Nazis! WTF? If you commit a crime, its no defense to point at others who do even worse things. It doesn't make your crimes go away!
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7006|SE London

EVieira wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

You have to admire Iranian tactics. While the US 'superpower' is bogged down in the shitfest it created in Iraq, the likes of North Korea, Syria and Iran are capitalising on every opportunity that comes by that otherwise would ordinarily have been thwarted. The question I have is this: what implications does this have for Europe?
Good ones.

It'll massively boost the European economy whilst detracting from the US economy. The Euro will rise in value and the Dollar will fall.
Which isn't necessarily good. The euro is too strong already, european made goods and tourism could suffer if the euro got stronger. A weaker dollar means more US exports, which means a desperately needed adjustment to their commercial deficit. If the dollar fell a bit, it would actually help the US.
That is totally untrue. The dollar is already at an all time low compared to the currencies of all of their primary trading partners, especially China, the EU and the UK. If the dollar falls further then it can only really have a detrimental effect on the American economy. The most obvious way to stabilise the dollar will be to raise interest rates, which in a society so deep in personal debt will have a significant cumualtive negative economic effect.

Having a weak currency will help the US on exports, but imports will be more expensive. The US is the most consuming nation there is and imports more than they export. Even nations specifically dependent on cheap exports (most notably China) like to have strong currencies since it increases levels of foreign investment.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6792|Columbus, Ohio

SpaceApollyon wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

SpaceApollyon wrote:


Aaah, the old "We might be bad, but they are worse" defense.
Oh, so if we dont toss women and children in ovens, we are no better than the nazi's in our treatment of prisoners?  Maybe we should test biological weapons on them like the Japs did to allied prisoners.  Lets take away their custom meals and religious freedom and toss them in an oven since we are no better.
Im not saying that you are as bad the Nazis! WTF? If you commit a crime, its no defense to point at others who do even worse things. It doesn't make your crimes go away!
Wrong.  What crime did we commit?
SpaceApollyon
Scratch where it itches
+41|6944|Finland

usmarine2007 wrote:

SpaceApollyon wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Oh, so if we dont toss women and children in ovens, we are no better than the nazi's in our treatment of prisoners?  Maybe we should test biological weapons on them like the Japs did to allied prisoners.  Lets take away their custom meals and religious freedom and toss them in an oven since we are no better.
Im not saying that you are as bad the Nazis! WTF? If you commit a crime, its no defense to point at others who do even worse things. It doesn't make your crimes go away!
Wrong.  What crime did we commit?
There were no crimes commited in GITMO?
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6792|Columbus, Ohio

SpaceApollyon wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

SpaceApollyon wrote:


Im not saying that you are as bad the Nazis! WTF? If you commit a crime, its no defense to point at others who do even worse things. It doesn't make your crimes go away!
Wrong.  What crime did we commit?
There were no crimes commited in GITMO?
I have not seen anyone charged and convicted with anything....I may be 100% wrong, but no convictions I  have seen.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7006|SE London

usmarine2007 wrote:

SpaceApollyon wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


Wrong.  What crime did we commit?
There were no crimes commited in GITMO?
I have not seen anyone charged and convicted with anything....I may be 100% wrong, but no convictions I  have seen.
No convictions that I know of. But rulings by the supreme court (in June I believe) saying what they were doing was wrong and illegal.

Getting away with something doesn't make it right.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7141

Bertster7 wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

SpaceApollyon wrote:


There were no crimes commited in GITMO?
I have not seen anyone charged and convicted with anything....I may be 100% wrong, but no convictions I  have seen.
No convictions that I know of. But rulings by the supreme court (in June I believe) saying what they were doing was wrong and illegal.

Getting away with something doesn't make it right.
Yes but what is the crime that US soldiers are making at Gitmo?
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Stormscythe
Aiming for the head
+88|6974|EUtopia | Austria

SpaceApollyon wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

SpaceApollyon wrote:


Im not saying that you are as bad the Nazis! WTF? If you commit a crime, its no defense to point at others who do even worse things. It doesn't make your crimes go away!
Wrong.  What crime did we commit?
There were no crimes commited in GITMO?
No, there were indeed no crimes commited. I think, it's something like a law-free area. No country of the world, not even the US, can influence what's going on there by legal actions.
Without law, there's no crime. End of the story.

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