Drunken_Tankdriver
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Elamdri wrote:

I do NOT think it would have been in the intentions of the founding fathers to allow us to own anti-Material Rifles and assault weaponry
That is a valid point to think about but honestly what differance does it make when a 9mm pistol has just as much deadly force as a .50cal anti material sniper rifle if you shot someone in a vital spot? Of course the 50 cal is going to have far more dramatic effects but the end result is still the same. With that said, the very same class of fire arms you mention in the hands of a responsable gun owner has no threat to society. So what does it really matter wheather or not the forefathers intended the ammendment to include these types of weapons or not?

Now some might say people simply have no buisness owning an assult weapon or anti-material sniper rifle because of what they are capable of. The truth though is not what the weapon is capable of, but what the person is capable of. One example being that if someone became rebellous against an oil company and decided to go squeeze a few raufoss rounds off at different targets at an oil refinery to cause alot of trouble, and would in that situation, could have been avoided if people didnt own these types of things. The thing that people dont realise is that the same thing can be achived without a sniper rifle, so if you ban them all together terrible things can still happen. An example of this could be that someone in a private plane, say a cessna, decides to kamikaze into an oil refinery. Again, same outcome, but different approach. Also that person used something that was used that is "necessary" to society.(somebody was talking about this previously about cars). Anyway though, outlawing assult weapons really doesnt change anything.

Last edited by Drunken_Tankdriver (2006-12-13 23:57:34)

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I personally think that when the constitution was written they probably did mean to give everyone the right to own a gun.

At the time guns took 20 seconds to reload by a trained professional soldier. There were no tanks, APCs, Aircraft, laser guided bombs and nukes. If some drunk idiot decided to get a gun out it's not really a problem. Now that there is almost no threat to the USA, the governing system has been in place for a long while and is not in turmoil. An individual with a firearm is capable of causing vastly more damage to civillians than back then and vastly less damage to armed forces, the law is damaging to society and antiquated.

As has been mentioned earlier, the reason the USA has such a large gun problem is largely due to how easy it is for criminals to get guns by stealing them off people.

I'm very happy about living in a country that doesn't have this problem and there is almost nobody here that wants the guns back (well, except for the criminals).

Both Iraq and Afganistan have well armed civilians and they haven't kicked out the invading armies yet.....
Drakef
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Drunken_Tankdriver wrote:

Anyway though, outlawing assult weapons really doesnt change anything.
Simply the power of the firearm is not the only issue. Remember, the size of the magazine, the type of ammunition, the range, and factors such as automatic fire are all applicable to deciding what weapons should be available or not.
deeznutz1245
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Once again I have misinterpreted the amendment. I thought it said your have the right to smoke any thug who tries breaking into your home to do harm to your family or who tries to rob you because they are to lazy, stupid and ignorant to find a job. Oops.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2006-12-14 10:26:19)

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