Yet I have already told you that you are wrong.Parker wrote:
the question was your age, which you constantly dodge like the black plague so ill stick with my assumption. which explains the majority of your behavior.
Oh. I see now. Good way to make such a simple point. I can totally see why you didnt think that would piss anyone off.Bubbalo wrote:
I was trying to point out that some people need to understand that the world isn't black and white, or, more accurately, that black and white can change depending on perspective. I, and others, have stated this multiple times. I will not discuss it further: it's only liable to anger people again. So far as I'm concerned, the issue is done with.ATG wrote:
Might wanna check the wording there Bubs.
Wasn't trying to piss them off.
Wasn't trying to have a debate.
WTF
DUDE - SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!OP wrote:
280 dog tags and counting - and I've had 2142 for three weeks.
!The_Shipbuilder wrote:
DUDE - SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!OP wrote:
280 dog tags and counting - and I've had 2142 for three weeks.
You think we do not know people respect terrorists. We know many many many people give them money for supplies, and give their families money. What would make you think we did not know that?Bubbalo wrote:
All I'm saying is that people have to understand that there are those who (rightly or wrongly) have the same view about US soldiers (and, for the record, I am not one of them. Then again, I don't view anyone as less than human).
Could be better, if my deadbeat employer didn't owe me 5 months back wages.Spark wrote:
!The_Shipbuilder wrote:
DUDE - SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!OP wrote:
280 dog tags and counting - and I've had 2142 for three weeks.
Haven't seen you in a while. How've you been?
Sorry..off topic... Chef got permabanned?! HELL YA!Fancy_Pollux wrote:
There's a difference between simply having a different point of view and knowingly posting a tasteless thread (on December 7th of all dates) with the sole intent of trolling and starting a flame war. IRONCHEF got himself permabanned for that reason.weamo8 wrote:
I think Bubbalo is crazy, and i have never agreed with him about anything, but I really surprised when the ban topic was posted. How do you have a D&ST forum when anyone who has a differing point of view is banned? Everyone agreeing is boring.
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I see your point. But what makes you think we are not aware of that?Bubbalo wrote:
usmarine2007: As I have said before, I am done discussing the topic. There are those who understand my point, and those who do not, and I doubt anybody is going to swap over now.
You think I do not know the terrorists have as many supporters as the troops fighting them do?Bubbalo wrote:
You very clearly don't understand my point, because you are one of the very people I was referring to.
Ok, let's clear it up.Bubbalo wrote:
No, but that wasn't my point.
The politicians use the military for those reasons, but not the troops in it. I can tell you right now, most of us in the military could give a shit less why the politicians send us places. We volunteered, we do what we are told. We do not choose where to go and fight, but we choose to fight for each other. Period.Bubbalo wrote:
No. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that they aren't necessarily the selfless angels some make them out to be: the US army fights not for some great ideal, but rather for the benefit of the US at the expense of others.
Further, I was a jab at people who make posts about honouring US soldiers and then get upset when people post in it to offer differing viewpoints: they were the first ones to sully a thread honouring the other side.
If your referring to my thread, I was simply hoping for a nice find bunch of replies. Coming from a military family, going into the military, surrounded by military friends, I was taken aback by your response. In my anger, I said a lot of foolish things. If your point is truly that not everyone thinks the US Soldiers are the greatest (which I realize), and not that the perpetrators of 9/11 are heroes, then I accept your opinion and your appology. However, I will never forget that you declared those men as heroes, even if that was not the point of the statement.Bubbalo wrote:
No. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that they aren't necessarily the selfless angels some make them out to be: the US army fights not for some great ideal, but rather for the benefit of the US at the expense of others.
Further, I was a jab at people who make posts about honouring US soldiers and then get upset when people post in it to offer differing viewpoints: they were the first ones to sully a thread honouring the other side.
Right.Bubbalo wrote:
But you did choose to join the army, no-one forced you to join. Correct?
I am not sure I follow you.Bubbalo wrote:
Well then you cannot seperate yourself from it's actions.
Bubbalo, your post was about not seeing the other side of things. In this thread you seem to not see that you did offend people, not because of their believes, but because of who they/their family are. There are a lot of military people on this forum, or people who are related to them. You have to see that they see your post as a punch in the face. Yes, I know you were trying to make a point, look at page 3 I even stated what your point was, but you must see the other side also. Do to the lack of knowledge of where your point of view was (your orginal post did not explain where it was), it was taken out of context. I think that if you were to use any other thing, for example how the Japenese supported their troops during WWII, it could have been different. Because it was the anniversary of Pearl Habor, it probally would not have been. (Again, I know that it was the 8th were you were, but being in an international society you have account for that.)Bubbalo wrote:
I honestly don't care. Fact is, you made the post to glorify your worldview. You weren't upset with how I said things: you were upset with the fact that I challenged your belief. And you aren't the only one to do it.
If I do not agree, then I will get upset. I think you can see I do not agree with everything we have done.Bubbalo wrote:
If you choose to be a member of an organisation, then you cannot be upset when people criticise you for it's actions.