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2006-12-07 20:49:14
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7016|Argentina

weamo8 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

weamo8 wrote:

How many continents are there to Argentineans?  29 or 30 or what?  To most of the world there are 7.  This is an honest question, maybe you all learn it differently.

Either way, you are just furthering my point.  There is no continent: America.
Continental sections: A section is a division of a continent into a logical travel part. Classic examples are Southeast Asia or Scandinavia. Sometimes sections may not make sense, or may be equivalent to national boundaries. For example, it's natural to divide North America into Canada, the United States of America, and Mexico.

For me there are 6, America, Europe, Asia, Oceania, Africa and Antarctica.  But you could say Eurasia is one continent, because there is no political division just geographical, as you mentioned.  America is divided in two big land masses, but Central America is a subdivision of America, the continent not the country.  And please don't think you are smart saying "How many continents are there to Argentineans?  29 or 30 or what?".
Read the first paragraph you posted, and then read the second.  Do you see anything contridictory?

So, to you, there is a continent: America.  To the rest of the world, including every site you have showed me, said continent does not exist.

Every site you post simply furthers my argument.  Keep it up.
Only Americans don't call America the continent.  Keep it up.  America is a continent.

America.

It's a matter of languages.  Keep it up.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-12-07 20:50:38)

2006-12-07 20:49:52
genius_man16
Platinum Star whore
+365|6937|Middle of nowhere
how about you guys just accept that Europeans took this continent and there's no way, short of total annihilation, we're going to leave, we've appologized umpteen times about the attrocities that hapened, but you can't change it, so just deal with it
2006-12-07 20:50:46
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6704|The Land of Scott Walker

sergeriver wrote:

weamo8 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

You post a link of Wiki giving for granted everything, but I can tell you Costa Rica or El Salvador aren't in North America.  Sorry.  Central America.
How many continents are there to Argentineans?  29 or 30 or what?  To most of the world there are 7.  This is an honest question, maybe you all learn it differently.

Either way, you are just furthering my point.  There is no continent: America.
Continental sections: A section is a division of a continent into a logical travel part. Classic examples are Southeast Asia or Scandinavia. Sometimes sections may not make sense, or may be equivalent to national boundaries. For example, it's natural to divide North America into Canada, the United States of America, and Mexico.

For me there are 6, America, Europe, Asia, Oceania, Africa and Antarctica.  But you could say Eurasia is one continent, because there is no political division just geographical, as you mentioned.  America is divided in two big land masses, but Central America is a subdivision of America, the continent not the country.  And please don't think you are smart saying "How many continents are there to Argentineans?  29 or 30 or what?".
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2006-12-07 20:59:31
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7016|Argentina

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Are you still trying to argue that Central America is a continent?

There are only 7 continents:

North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa, and Antarctica.

http://www.uoregon.edu/~kburr/7continen … age002.gif
No, there are 6: America, Europe, Asia, Oceania (Australia is a country), Africa and Antarctica.

The reason why you learn it this way is because you call yourselves America, but America is a continent.

America.
2006-12-07 21:04:36
weamo8
Member
+50|6701|USA

sergeriver wrote:

weamo8 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Continental sections: A section is a division of a continent into a logical travel part. Classic examples are Southeast Asia or Scandinavia. Sometimes sections may not make sense, or may be equivalent to national boundaries. For example, it's natural to divide North America into Canada, the United States of America, and Mexico.

For me there are 6, America, Europe, Asia, Oceania, Africa and Antarctica.  But you could say Eurasia is one continent, because there is no political division just geographical, as you mentioned.  America is divided in two big land masses, but Central America is a subdivision of America, the continent not the country.  And please don't think you are smart saying "How many continents are there to Argentineans?  29 or 30 or what?".
Read the first paragraph you posted, and then read the second.  Do you see anything contridictory?

So, to you, there is a continent: America.  To the rest of the world, including every site you have showed me, said continent does not exist.

Every site you post simply furthers my argument.  Keep it up.
Only Americans don't call America the continent.  Keep it up.  America is a continent.

America.

It's a matter of languages.  Keep it up.
You are right.  To Spanish speakers, there is a continent: America.

Now go to England, Togo, China, Denmark, Poland, Syria, and France, and ask them, "What is America?"  I am sure they will all say, "It is the one continent in the western hemisphere."  Or will they say, "It is that crazy country who invaded Iraq."  You are right that it is a matter of perspective, and I will bet you my right testicle that 99.9% of people outside of South America would answer that question as the latter.

Nothing I can prove, nor is it anything you can disprove, but please give me an answer.  If you went to Morroco and asked 1000 people on the street the question "What is America," how would they answer?
2006-12-07 21:05:30
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6905

sergeriver wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Are you still trying to argue that Central America is a continent?

There are only 7 continents:

North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa, and Antarctica.

http://www.uoregon.edu/~kburr/7continen … age002.gif
No, there are 6: America, Europe, Asia, Oceania (Australia is a country), Africa and Antarctica.

The reason why you learn it this way is because you call yourselves America, but America is a continent.

America.
North America and South America are now treated as separate continents in much of Western Europe, China, and most native English-speaking countries. However in earlier times they were viewed as a single continent known as America or, to avoid ambiguity with the United States of America, as the Americas. They are still viewed as a single continent, one of six in total, in Latin America, Iberia, Italy and some other parts of Europe.
2006-12-07 21:09:23
weamo8
Member
+50|6701|USA
Sergeriver, go into wikipedia and look up the word "continents."  Then click randomly on 20 or so different languages, and you will find that to most of the world there is no continent: America.  If you are wondering what the majority of the world thinks, try this.
2006-12-07 21:12:42
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7016|Argentina

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Are you still trying to argue that Central America is a continent?

There are only 7 continents:

North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa, and Antarctica.

http://www.uoregon.edu/~kburr/7continen … age002.gif
No, there are 6: America, Europe, Asia, Oceania (Australia is a country), Africa and Antarctica.

The reason why you learn it this way is because you call yourselves America, but America is a continent.

America.
North America and South America are now treated as separate continents in much of Western Europe, China, and most native English-speaking countries. However in earlier times they were viewed as a single continent known as America or, to avoid ambiguity with the United States of America, as the Americas. They are still viewed as a single continent, one of six in total, in Latin America, Iberia, Italy and some other parts of Europe.
I agree, it depends where you are living.  If you are a latin (Latin America, Spain, Italy, etc) there is a continent called America.  If you are born in US, you call your country America and it would be weird calling your country and a continent the same way.
2006-12-07 21:13:31
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6789|Sydney, in 1978
And might i point out that Australia is a continent on its own - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continents Not this oceania BS although you can refer to us as a part of that section of the world, we still are our own continent
2006-12-07 21:24:20
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7016|Argentina

weamo8 wrote:

Sergeriver, go into wikipedia and look up the word "continents."  Then click randomly on 20 or so different languages, and you will find that to most of the world there is no continent: America.  If you are wondering what the majority of the world thinks, try this.
We are discusing a foolish thing, you call the continents North and South America and we (not only Argentinians, but most latin people) call it America, with 3 subdivisions.

America (Spanish).

America (Deutsch).

America (French).

America (Italian).

America (Portuguese.

America (Dutch).

I'm tired.  So, look for more yourself.

Continente. Here you'll see they list only 5 continents, calling Eurasia as a whole continent, but for most latin people there are 6 continents: America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania and Antarctica.

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2006-12-07 21:27:01
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7016|Argentina

Mongoose wrote:

And might i point out that Australia is a continent on its own - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continents Not this oceania BS although you can refer to us as a part of that section of the world, we still are our own continent
Oceania.
2006-12-07 21:28:22
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6789|Sydney, in 1978
yes, but notice how its written in another language?? in english speaking countries Australia is its own continent.
2006-12-07 21:30:07
weamo8
Member
+50|6701|USA

sergeriver wrote:

weamo8 wrote:

Sergeriver, go into wikipedia and look up the word "continents."  Then click randomly on 20 or so different languages, and you will find that to most of the world there is no continent: America.  If you are wondering what the majority of the world thinks, try this.
We are discusing a foolish thing, you call the continents North and South America and we (not only Argentinians, but most latin people) call it America, with 3 subdivisions.

[url= http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/America]America (Spanish).[/url]

America (Deutsch).

America (French).

America (Italian).

America (Portuguese.

America (Dutch).

I'm tired.  So, look for more yourself.

Continente. Here you'll see they list only 5 continents, calling Eurasia as a whole continent, but for most latin people there are 6 continents: America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania and Antarctica.
That is strange because:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontinent  (Deutsch)

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent  (French)

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continente (Portuguese)

http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdensdel (Dansk)

I'm tired.  So, look for more yourself.

And you still havent answered my question.  Is it because you know I am right?

Last edited by weamo8 (2006-12-07 21:32:23)

2006-12-07 21:31:49
weamo8
Member
+50|6701|USA
I dont know how I screwed up the above post, but it still works.
2006-12-07 21:32:00
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7016|Argentina

Mongoose wrote:

yes, but notice how its written in another language?? in english speaking countries Australia is its own continent.
I'm only showing you that it's a matter of languages.  But Australia is a part of Oceania.  Of course, that mass of land is a continent itself, but geopolitically speaking Australia is a part of Oceania.  New Zealand is in Oceania, right?  In which continent are Australia and New Zealand?  Oceania.

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2006-12-07 21:36:16
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7016|Argentina

weamo8 wrote:

I dont know how I screwed up the above post, but it still works.
In the French definition they have 7, 6, 5 and 4 continents.  In the Portuguese they put America (North, Central and South).

And which question?  About how they call US in Morocco?  I think they call it États-Unis d'Amérique.

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2006-12-07 21:49:52
weamo8
Member
+50|6701|USA

sergeriver wrote:

weamo8 wrote:

I dont know how I screwed up the above post, but it still works.
In the French definition they have 7, 6, 5 and 4 continents.  In the Portuguese they put America (North, Central and South).

And which question?
If you went to any town in India, Chad, Turkey, Liberia, Slovakia, or Ireland, and asked them the question, "What is America?"  How do you think most people would answer?
2006-12-07 21:52:09
Ender2309
has joined the GOP
+470|6829|USA

sergeriver wrote:

America, the Stolen Continent:

Spiritual malaise and social turmoil were rife in 15th century Europe. Epidemic diseases and famine raged. Death was omnipresent. War was widespread and institutions of authority like the Church were venal and corrupt. The 'discovery' of America offered the possibility of a new beginning for Europe. Unfortunately, the invading powers chose to solve their problems at the expense of the new land and the native Americans who lived there.  COLUMBUS hungered for gold but found little. However his followers did: Cortes plundered the Aztec temples and Pizarro stole shiploads of Inca wealth. But while Indians worked the Spanish mines of Bolivia and Mexico, most of the wealth eventually wound up in the pockets of Dutch, British and French businessmen.

The old European mercantile economy was shaken by the massive injection of American wealth. In 1500, Europe had $200 million worth of gold and silver: a century later the amount was eight times greater. Inflation sent the value of precious metals plummeting worldwide. (The Ottoman Empire saw the value of its silver hoard fall 50 per cent by 1584, knocking the Islamic power from contention as a major trading bloc.) And as the American booty spread around Europe, a new merchant and capitalist class was launched.

Soon the British and Dutch expanded into North America, India, China and southeast Asia. By 1750 a truly global trading network had been established with Europe in firm control. The catalyst: American gold and silver.

Source: Jack Weatherford, from his book Indian Givers.

Question:
Have you ever thought for a while that Europe is strong today thanks to America's (the whole continent America) gold and silver, which Europeans stole since Columbus Discovery?  Isn't it hypocrite to criticize other countries policies, when you are enjoying the fruit your forefathers stole from another Continent, leaving behind only death and misery?  How do you pay for reparations to Aztecs or Incas?  I'm not talking just about gold and silver, but of their lives.
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thank you for taking that well, and, to be serious.


although i may contain a bit of a bias as a US citizen, i have often wondered this myself. i must say that i agree 100% on the stance that they are free of reparations, however, in the same way that america has never paid a dime to anyone, nor does any person alive today deserve any reparations, because, well, we didn't do any thing to those still living today.

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2006-12-07 21:54:30
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6910|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

America was conquered by the Europeans??!!!...........Boy, ya just learn somethin' new everyday! Let me guess, you have an article that says Bush was in on it.
Do you know that America is a continent, not just a country?  Read a thread once in a while, so you don't talk BS.  OMG.
UMmmmmmmmm yup I do know that, is there a part of AMERICA that WASN'T conquered by the Europeans??




LOL wow 2 pages of arguing over continents from 1 little smart ass comment I made.......I feel so special

You guys expect to solve all the worlds problems in this forum with all of your wisdom, yet you can't even agree on how many continents there are in the world?.........I love it.....total chaos!!!

Last edited by lowing (2006-12-07 22:04:03)

2006-12-07 21:58:34
Ratzinger
Member
+43|6650|Wollongong, NSW, Australia

weamo8 wrote:

If you went to any town in India, Chad, Turkey, Liberia, Slovakia, or Ireland, and asked them the question, "What is America?"  How do you think most people would answer?
I usually get my information from the guy down the street; he left school in yr 8 and he doesn't read too good, but, hell, he's got an answer.....

Do you ask your accountant for medical advice?
2006-12-07 22:01:44
weamo8
Member
+50|6701|USA

Ratzinger wrote:

weamo8 wrote:

If you went to any town in India, Chad, Turkey, Liberia, Slovakia, or Ireland, and asked them the question, "What is America?"  How do you think most people would answer?
I usually get my information from the guy down the street; he left school in yr 8 and he doesn't read too good, but, hell, he's got an answer.....

Do you ask your accountant for medical advice?
I love it when people join the middle of a conversation and pretend they know what is going on.
2006-12-07 22:03:02
penguin.killer
Member
+75|6739
stop living in the past
2006-12-07 22:10:05
weamo8
Member
+50|6701|USA

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

America was conquered by the Europeans??!!!...........Boy, ya just learn somethin' new everyday! Let me guess, you have an article that says Bush was in on it.
Do you know that America is a continent, not just a country?  Read a thread once in a while, so you don't talk BS.  OMG.
UMmmmmmmmm yup I do know that, is there a part of AMERICA that WASN'T conquered by the Europeans??




LOL wow 2 pages of arguing over continents from 1 little smart ass comment I made.......I feel so special

You guys expect to solve all the worlds problems in this forum with all of your wisdom, yet you can't even agree on how many continents there are in the world?.........I love it.....total chaos!!!
Yeah.  Either we are both wrong, or we are both right.  What a mess.  If I could reach through my computer and strangle both of you I would.
2006-12-07 22:12:52
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6910|USA

weamo8 wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Do you know that America is a continent, not just a country?  Read a thread once in a while, so you don't talk BS.  OMG.
UMmmmmmmmm yup I do know that, is there a part of AMERICA that WASN'T conquered by the Europeans??




LOL wow 2 pages of arguing over continents from 1 little smart ass comment I made.......I feel so special

You guys expect to solve all the worlds problems in this forum with all of your wisdom, yet you can't even agree on how many continents there are in the world?.........I love it.....total chaos!!!
Yeah.  Either we are both wrong, or we are both right.  What a mess.  If I could reach through my computer and strangle both of you I would.
LOL, I wasn't involved I just sit back and enjoy the show
2006-12-07 22:17:18
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6933|Canberra, AUS
Fancy, where's that pic of the guy leaning on his hand, typed out entirely by text and who looks like he's thinking 'i've lost faith in the human race?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

 

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