THE NOISE HURTS!usmarine2007 wrote:
"Padilla claims, among other things, that he was forced to stand in painful stress positions, given LSD or some other drug as a "truth serum," subjected to loud noises and noxious odors and forced to endure sleep deprivation, extreme heat and cold, and harsh lights."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061204/ap_ … or_charges
Gee, how evil.
Seems as though the members of our armed forces have it worse than Padilla. They are subjected to loud noise (gunfire, bombs), noxious odors (cleanup after suicide bombings), sleep deprivation, extreme heat in their current location, and harsh lights (unrelenting desert sun).usmarine2007 wrote:
"Padilla claims, among other things, that he was forced to stand in painful stress positions, given LSD or some other drug as a "truth serum," subjected to loud noises and noxious odors and forced to endure sleep deprivation, extreme heat and cold, and harsh lights."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061204/ap_ … or_charges
Gee, how evil.
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Sounds pretty far fetched TBH...U.S. authorities initially claimed he was on an al-Qaida mission to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb" in a U.S. city.
I hope so. I watched a show on National Geographic called Triple Cross detailing how al-Qaeda infiltrated the US and how organized they were before 9/11. Made me think they are capable of a dirty bomb if that's their plan.ghettoperson wrote:
Sounds pretty far fetched TBH...U.S. authorities initially claimed he was on an al-Qaida mission to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb" in a U.S. city.
If the "plot" is for real, then you get off your ass and do some surveillence. You get a SIGNED WARRANT from a JUDGE to search for anything you feel is really there. You can even apply for a warrant AFTER the fact if the situation requires that you start searching right away. This is what law enforcement personnel call "investigation". What you don't do is put the thumbscrews to a person that's already imbalanced and expect him to have a "moment of clarity" where he honestly spills his guts about how he shoplifted a candy bar when he was 4 years old.Serious question: If this man was part of a terrorist plot, how should we get the information we need since he's a citizen? If we can't even use phychological means, what else do we have left?
didn't that russian spy that died of radiation poisoning convert to islam recently? Islamists+espionage+radiation=not so far fetched.ghettoperson wrote:
Sounds pretty far fetched TBH...U.S. authorities initially claimed he was on an al-Qaida mission to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb" in a U.S. city.
kr@cker wrote:
didn't that russian spy that died of radiation poisoning convert to islam recently? Islamists+espionage+radiation=not so far fetched.ghettoperson wrote:
Sounds pretty far fetched TBH...U.S. authorities initially claimed he was on an al-Qaida mission to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb" in a U.S. city.
LinkMr. Padilla was added as a defendant in a terrorism conspiracy case already under way in Miami. The strong public accusations made during his military detention — about the dirty bomb, Al Qaeda connections and supposed plans to set off natural gas explosions in apartment buildings — appear nowhere in the indictment against him. The indictment does not allege any specific violent plot against America.
Please refrain from using the NY times as a source. They are no longer trustworthy with the bs they've been caught publishing.Masques wrote:
Link . . .
youre not going to gitmo....county maybe, but definitly NOT gitmoghettoperson wrote:
I'd actually quite like the idea of listening to Metallica all day long. If they played techno or rap however, I'd go insane within hours.
I hope the NSA doesn't pay attention to what I say on here, otherwise I might not have as much fun if I ever get dragged off to Gitmo...
I have been thru Escape and Evasion school ( SERE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SERE ) , which I volunteered to go thru. So I do know a little about sleep deprivation and stress positions.Spearhead wrote:
Wow, LMFAO at Stingrays post, and anyone else who thinks this is "just playing around". They obviously don't know what the fuck an interrogation really is.....
Stress positions = real shit, not just some walk in the park
Sleep deprivation = Sometimes 2 plus days without a wink of sleep. I think Stingray has some real family issues if his kids are preventing him from sleeping for more than 24 hours...
Also loud noises, flashing lights, etc. can make you go insane if you're subjected to it enough. I seriously doubt Stingray or usmarine2007 would volunteer to go through one of these interrogation phases. They talk shit now, but everytime someone criticizes them, they remind us "Our soldiers are over there, so it's okay for us to do that to our prisoners" Um, durdeepfuckingder? Our soldiers are over there in the first place, you don't just make some pussyass excuse to mistreat prisoners...... unless you're a pussy and a hypocrite yourself.
Stingray and usmarine2007 /fail
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Well i guess he shouldn't have tried to kill us then!GorillaTicTacs wrote:
Don't knock it till you been through it, imagine a 4 week marathon of Pat Robertson and the 700 Club power hour pumped into your head at full blast with no other activity to distract you. If you aren't insane after that, you probably weren't sane to begin with.
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That still doesn't justify torture.usmarine2007 wrote:
That being said, I do not put myself in a position to be subject to these techniques. I do not try and blow people up in the name of God.
but you want people blown up in the name of so called freedom. What's the difference?usmarine2007 wrote:
That being said, I do not put myself in a position to be subject to these techniques. I do not try and blow people up in the name of God.
I notice how the two of you leave out my whole post when quoting.mr.hrundi wrote:
but you want people blown up in the name of so called freedom. What's the difference?usmarine2007 wrote:
That being said, I do not put myself in a position to be subject to these techniques. I do not try and blow people up in the name of God.
http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com … 705ind.pdfStingray24 wrote:
Please refrain from using the NY times as a source. They are no longer trustworthy with the bs they've been caught publishing.Masques wrote:
Link . . .
Guilty until proven... innocent? Is that the way your system works? How do you know they tried to blow people up? Most likely if they're fucking SUICIDE BOMBERS, they wouldn't have been caught ALIVE. There are no trials, at least not for the majority of them. There is no way to distinguish the "good" from the "bad".usmarine2007 wrote:
I have been thru Escape and Evasion school ( SERE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SERE ) , which I volunteered to go thru. So I do know a little about sleep deprivation and stress positions.Spearhead wrote:
Wow, LMFAO at Stingrays post, and anyone else who thinks this is "just playing around". They obviously don't know what the fuck an interrogation really is.....
Stress positions = real shit, not just some walk in the park
Sleep deprivation = Sometimes 2 plus days without a wink of sleep. I think Stingray has some real family issues if his kids are preventing him from sleeping for more than 24 hours...
Also loud noises, flashing lights, etc. can make you go insane if you're subjected to it enough. I seriously doubt Stingray or usmarine2007 would volunteer to go through one of these interrogation phases. They talk shit now, but everytime someone criticizes them, they remind us "Our soldiers are over there, so it's okay for us to do that to our prisoners" Um, durdeepfuckingder? Our soldiers are over there in the first place, you don't just make some pussyass excuse to mistreat prisoners...... unless you're a pussy and a hypocrite yourself.
Stingray and usmarine2007 /fail
That being said, I do not put myself in a position to be subject to these techniques. I do not try and blow people up in the name of God.
So, until you go to SERE school, or get caught doing something bad, you sir FAIL.
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