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ooOOOOOoooo BURN!!!!!IRONCHEF wrote:
I think your breath is harsh.
Permaban time?IRONCHEF wrote:
I think your breath is harsh.
No, but when people cry and moan about the torturous US, they should step back and put things in perspective.Masques wrote:
The US isn't harsh compared to Egypt, but is that really the standard that should be applied? "Don't complain, at least we're better than Egypt!"
Hopefully not. It was actually a funny jibe.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Permaban time?IRONCHEF wrote:
I think your breath is harsh.
Thanks for proving my point.usmarine2007 wrote:
No, but when people cry and moan about the torturous US, they should step back and put things in perspective.Masques wrote:
The US isn't harsh compared to Egypt, but is that really the standard that should be applied? "Don't complain, at least we're better than Egypt!"
Ummm ok. So, people say sleep deprivation and loud music is torture? I am saying they need perspective on what real torture is. If that is your point, ok then.Masques wrote:
Thanks for proving my point.usmarine2007 wrote:
No, but when people cry and moan about the torturous US, they should step back and put things in perspective.Masques wrote:
The US isn't harsh compared to Egypt, but is that really the standard that should be applied? "Don't complain, at least we're better than Egypt!"
yeah that's sounds more like life with a teenage child/siblingusmarine2007 wrote:
Ummm ok. So, people say sleep deprivation and loud music is torture? I am saying they need perspective on what real torture is. If that is your point, ok then.Masques wrote:
Thanks for proving my point.usmarine2007 wrote:
No, but when people cry and moan about the torturous US, they should step back and put things in perspective.
*sound of blaring music from upstairs*kr@cker wrote:
yeah that's sounds more like life with a teenage child/siblingusmarine2007 wrote:
Ummm ok. So, people say sleep deprivation and loud music is torture? I am saying they need perspective on what real torture is. If that is your point, ok then.Masques wrote:
Thanks for proving my point.
In Gitmo they get custom meals, the books they want, and better medical treatment then most our soldiers... so yea.usmarine2007 wrote:
Imagine how these guys will be interrogated over there. I bet they would be begging to go to Gitmo.
http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2004/02 … pt7658.htm
Hence, Club Gitmo. Tropical retreat from the stress of Jihad.Kmarion wrote:
In Gitmo they get custom meals, the books they want, and better medical treatment then most our soldiers... so yea.usmarine2007 wrote:
Imagine how these guys will be interrogated over there. I bet they would be begging to go to Gitmo.
http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2004/02 … pt7658.htm
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Yeah, like the perspective that TORTURE IS INHUMANE AND WE SHOULDNT BE DOING IT IN A COUNTRY THAT ALLEGES TO BE GREAT AND FREE.usmarine2007 wrote:
No, but when people cry and moan about the torturous US, they should step back and put things in perspective.Masques wrote:
The US isn't harsh compared to Egypt, but is that really the standard that should be applied? "Don't complain, at least we're better than Egypt!"
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Please tell me what techniques you consider torture?jonsimon wrote:
Yeah, like the perspective that TORTURE IS INHUMANE AND WE SHOULDNT BE DOING IT IN A COUNTRY THAT ALLEGES TO BE GREAT AND FREE.usmarine2007 wrote:
No, but when people cry and moan about the torturous US, they should step back and put things in perspective.Masques wrote:
The US isn't harsh compared to Egypt, but is that really the standard that should be applied? "Don't complain, at least we're better than Egypt!"
It isn't "Our torture isn't as bad as theirs!" Its THE FACT THAT WE TORTURE AT ALL. I dont give two fucks who is less humane than the US, I give two fucks that the US isnt humane.
Final message from IRONCHEF, who incidentally wasn't banned because of Pollux (he wished me to state that):Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Permaban time?IRONCHEF wrote:
I think your breath is harsh.
IRONCHEF wrote:
Well, i've thought it over, considered the feelings of the sensitive ones here, and of course your ass backwards anality and decided that I don't want your company or that of the pussies here that think it's ok for professional soldiers to beat on children, crush people's cars, and harrass, torture, and kill innocent people. And yes, those fuckers (the soldiers in the video guilty of such things) deserve the retritbution they'll get. They should have thought of their fellow soldiers who's lives are in greater danger for their childish, unprofessional and murderous behavior. Fuck 'em! IEDs for all of them, and to the bastards on this board that condone their behavior -- even you if you're such a subhuman!
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Fuck offCameronPoe wrote:
Final message from IRONCHEF, who incidentally wasn't banned because of Pollux (he wished me to state that):Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Permaban time?IRONCHEF wrote:
I think your breath is harsh.IRONCHEF wrote:
Well, i've thought it over, considered the feelings of the sensitive ones here, and of course your ass backwards anality and decided that I don't want your company or that of the pussies here that think it's ok for professional soldiers to beat on children, crush people's cars, and harrass, torture, and kill innocent people. And yes, those fuckers (the soldiers in the video guilty of such things) deserve the retritbution they'll get. They should have thought of their fellow soldiers who's lives are in greater danger for their childish, unprofessional and murderous behavior. Fuck 'em! IEDs for all of them, and to the bastards on this board that condone their behavior -- even you if you're such a subhuman!
usmarine2007 wrote:
Fuck offCameronPoe wrote:
Final message from IRONCHEF, who incidentally wasn't banned because of Pollux (he wished me to state that):Fancy_Pollux wrote:
Permaban time?IRONCHEF wrote:
Well, i've thought it over, considered the feelings of the sensitive ones here, and of course your ass backwards anality and decided that I don't want your company or that of the pussies here that think it's ok for professional soldiers to beat on children, crush people's cars, and harrass, torture, and kill innocent people. And yes, those fuckers (the soldiers in the video guilty of such things) deserve the retritbution they'll get. They should have thought of their fellow soldiers who's lives are in greater danger for their childish, unprofessional and murderous behavior. Fuck 'em! IEDs for all of them, and to the bastards on this board that condone their behavior -- even you if you're such a subhuman!
Torturous ones. Ones that induce inhumane suffering, or unjust suffering, or just about any kind of unwarranted suffering.usmarine2007 wrote:
Please tell me what techniques you consider torture?jonsimon wrote:
Yeah, like the perspective that TORTURE IS INHUMANE AND WE SHOULDNT BE DOING IT IN A COUNTRY THAT ALLEGES TO BE GREAT AND FREE.usmarine2007 wrote:
No, but when people cry and moan about the torturous US, they should step back and put things in perspective.
It isn't "Our torture isn't as bad as theirs!" Its THE FACT THAT WE TORTURE AT ALL. I dont give two fucks who is less humane than the US, I give two fucks that the US isnt humane.
And by the way, that is NOT what I am saying. Please read where I responded to that.
Anything that cause permanent dismemberment is torture. What I went thru at SERE school is everything the US is accused of as being torture (except truth serum). I, and nobody else that was with me, have any dismemberment.jonsimon wrote:
Torturous ones. Ones that induce inhumane suffering, or unjust suffering, or just about any kind of unwarranted suffering.usmarine2007 wrote:
Please tell me what techniques you consider torture?jonsimon wrote:
Yeah, like the perspective that TORTURE IS INHUMANE AND WE SHOULDNT BE DOING IT IN A COUNTRY THAT ALLEGES TO BE GREAT AND FREE.
It isn't "Our torture isn't as bad as theirs!" Its THE FACT THAT WE TORTURE AT ALL. I dont give two fucks who is less humane than the US, I give two fucks that the US isnt humane.
And by the way, that is NOT what I am saying. Please read where I responded to that.
Maybe you're the one that needs perspective on what torture is. First hand perspective. Do you deny chinese water torture as a form of torture? Because you'd seem pretty dumb if you told me chinese water torture isn't torture because it doesn't cause "irreprable bodily harm".
You volunteered for it, and you could refuse the work. And you didn't experience the durations or extremes that these people could very well be under.usmarine2007 wrote:
Anything that cause permanent dismemberment is torture. What I went thru at SERE school is everything the US is accused of as being torture (except truth serum). I, and nobody else that was with me, have any dismemberment.jonsimon wrote:
Torturous ones. Ones that induce inhumane suffering, or unjust suffering, or just about any kind of unwarranted suffering.usmarine2007 wrote:
Please tell me what techniques you consider torture?
And by the way, that is NOT what I am saying. Please read where I responded to that.
Maybe you're the one that needs perspective on what torture is. First hand perspective. Do you deny chinese water torture as a form of torture? Because you'd seem pretty dumb if you told me chinese water torture isn't torture because it doesn't cause "irreprable bodily harm".
What is irreparable bodily harm? My back hurts because I used to carry a shit load of weight many miles on my back when I was in the grunts. Is that torture?