Cookie.VXT
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+178|6445|UK
Right,

first off im not asking what it is i know.

secondly im stuck deciding between the 2

ive been told that the am2 lacks the extensive power of a 939 socket (thats what ive been told) and im just wanting to know

so if you have an am2 socket can you say weather its worth getting one or shall i go for a 939 socket

visa versa for the 939 is it worth getting an am2

thanks in advance

Last edited by Zero!. (2006-11-29 13:13:54)

Des.Kmal
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+917|6627|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Am2 is newer, and supports the new FX-57(i tihnk) and the fx-62, so im assuming it is better and more power efficient, if im wrong, correct me.

dont get 939, am2 is newer and will support newer CPU's, dont get stuck in time, since (if ur staying with AMD) ur gonna have to update to AM2 anyway to get better ones anyway.

Last edited by Des.Kmal (2006-11-29 13:18:55)

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JE3146
Member
+109|6580|Oregon
AM2 is DDR2

939 is DDR

Choose what you use unless you feel like spending 300$ on RAM.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6591|SE London

939 = good.

AM2/940 = bad.

AM2 is the replacement to 939, it uses a variant of the older socket 940 used for early FX chips. 940 chips required registered memory (expensive), AM2 did away with that and uses DDR2 instead. The largest performance increase I have ever seen on comparative 939/AM2 chips is 2%. The cost to performance ratio is awful for AM2 chips. AM2 is a poorly conceived interface.

If you are building a system on a tight budget 939 is the way to go. If you have a decent budget get a C2D, much better value. No one should be buying AM2 chips because they are shit and AMD need to be taught a lesson for coming up with such awful refurbished technology (just like Intel needed to be taught a lesson after the travesty of Netburst).

BTW you can get the FX-55, 57, 60 for 939 and upto a 4800+ X2.

Also 939 is considered a dying interface and so the CPUs are MUCH cheaper than their AM2 alternatives. Little scope for upgrade though.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2006-11-29 13:28:44)

heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6397|New York
^^ agreed. 939 is just about maxed out for performance capabilities. am2 is new, and should have a lot of improvements coming.
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Cookie.VXT
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thanks for the advice
LoonykStephane
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+34|6546|Kingston,Ontario,Canada
I got AM2 3800+...it rock...I wanted to build a new machine and went with it...never had a problem with it and BF2 is solid on my system.
Just chose your mobo wisely...I got Asus M2N32-SLI deluxe...(Bad thing because I want to switch to ATI for my next Gen VC...AMD and ATI are one now!!!
Don't mind Pro-Intel or Pro-AMD...it's a price thing and it all come down to personal belief...
Richard2000
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+39|6554|England
i have got AM2 4600 and u dont need registered memory
all i got is 2GB 533 ram
AM2 IS KING BETTER THAN 939 SO GO FOR AM2
MECtallica
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+73|6513|jalalabad
I lol'd

so what you dont need registered mem, you still need to buy DDR2....

Last edited by MECtallica (2006-11-29 14:02:11)

T4rd
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+44|6685|West Point, NY
[google]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6811058963982008445&q=AM2&hl=en[/google]

This is a test I saw when AM2 first came out.  Virtually no diff, and actually the 939 was just a tad faster in this vid.  Only the AM2 machine in this vid has DDR2 533, I would like to see the diff with DDR2 800, which I honestly still wouldn't think it'd be that much different.

I would stick with 939 esp. if you wanna go with the FX-57, which I dont think is available on AM2, acutally.  It's cheaper and just as fast in most cases unless you want the $700 FX-62 which is only on AM2 and would be retarded to buy cuz the $300 Intel Core 2 duo E6600 smokes the crap out of it in almost every catagory.
the_outsider38
Microsoft Poster Child
+83|6704|Vancouver BC Canada
Get a dual core 939, the X2 series is your best bet.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6591|SE London

Richard2000 wrote:

i have got AM2 4600 and u dont need registered memory
all i got is 2GB 533 ram
AM2 IS KING BETTER THAN 939 SO GO FOR AM2
Who said you need registered memory? You have a socket AM2 board, not a socket 940 board. AM2 is a development from the older socket 940 technology using DDR2 rather than registered memory.

On price/performance 939 chips are way ahead a AM2 chips. On the higher end of the scale, C2D chips are way ahead of AM2 chips.

It's not something that needs any debate, no one should be buying AM2 chips, they're rubbish compared to the competition.

You have a 4600+, a C2D 6600 is only very slightly more expensive than that and that destroys all the benchmarks from the 4600+ X2. A 6400 is much cheaper and still more powerful as is the 6300. Also you can pick up a 939 version of the 4600+ for less money than an AM2 version and the RAM and MB cost much less, despite the fact that overall system performance from AM2 systems is no better (and in some cases is actually worse) than on 939 systems.
Drykill
I Like Waffles.
+47|6701|England
I'm sticking with 939 for now. Wait till late next year and the new chips like AMD's 4x4 might be more affordable. But for now AM2 doesn't seem worth money when 939 will do just fine, for now.
Well that's my opinion.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6591|SE London

Drykill wrote:

I'm sticking with 939 for now. Wait till late next year and the new chips like AMD's 4x4 might be more affordable. But for now AM2 doesn't seem worth money when 939 will do just fine, for now.
Well that's my opinion.
It's a good opinion. Wait till AMD have a credible alternative to C2D, I hope they do release one, I'm a bit of an AMD fanboy me....
CrazeD
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+368|6682|Maine
AM2 has 940 pins. s939 has 939 pins.
AM2 is DDR2, s939 is DDR.

That's pretty much it.

Not that great of an improvement IMO.

DDR = slower frequency, faster latency.
DDR2 = faster frequency, slower latency.

It basically depends on what you want your system to do.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6591|SE London

CrazeD wrote:

AM2 has 940 pins. s939 has 939 pins.
AM2 is DDR2, s939 is DDR.

That's pretty much it.

Not that great of an improvement IMO.

DDR = slower frequency, faster latency.
DDR2 = faster frequency, slower latency.

It basically depends on what you want your system to do.
You forgot the price difference.
the_outsider38
Microsoft Poster Child
+83|6704|Vancouver BC Canada
No kidding, that RAM is atleast twice as expensive. I do like the mobo options and advantages that come with the new NVidia Northbridge though. Does it support dual 16x PCI bus for SLI? Mine has to run both cards on a single 16x PCI bus, each card basically gets an AGP 8x. Not really a concern for my cards, but I imagine the 8800 can utilize more then an 8x bus, where my 7800GTs cannot.
Cybargs
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+2,285|6725
Conroe > All
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the_outsider38
Microsoft Poster Child
+83|6704|Vancouver BC Canada
Atleast stay outta the AMD threads ok, cyborg.

Don't need that intel crap around here
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6725

the_outsider38 wrote:

Atleast stay outta the AMD threads ok, cyborg.

Don't need that intel crap around here
Me personally, I would say 939, don't bother getting AM2, if your gonna get an AM2, might as well get a Conroe.
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beerface702
Member
+65|6702|las vegas
DDR 1 ram is just as expensive now as DDR2, if you buy s9393 now your a fool

either get am2, so your ready for bareclonia and K8L, which is backwards compatible with AM2, K8L will bascially be AM3 , but the chips will run on AM2 boards, but am2 chips wont run on AM3 boards. lol if that makes since

i would just wait 8 months until K8L mops up the floor on c2d and kentsfield

4x4 is already out and sucks though, im mad at AMD right now

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