Doctor Assisted Suicide

2006-11-30 14:00:40

#1

{XpLiCiTxX}: Ohh skeet skeet; +143|6728|New York

Simple question with a huge complicated answer.

I think that that a persons life is their own decision. Meaning they should be able to do what they want with it. Given this point... A person should be allowed to take his or her own life safely (by a doctor willing to help a person). Think about it this way. If a person wants to die, they are going to go through with it whatever way they see to be the most efficient way.

One popular method is the "get rich or die trying" method. - Rob a bank at gun point and if you make it out alive and don't get caught, you can rethink your life with your new found wealth. Or - rob a bank at gun point and if you don't make it out alive, at least you tried to do something about your terrible life. Or - if you do make it out of the bank alive you're going to have the police on to you. Then if you get in a high speed chase, you can draw your gun to a policeman and they pretty much have to use lethal force to stop you. If they don't, then they could lose their life.

With all that said, do you think the safe way (Doctor assisted) suicide should be legal?

2006-11-30 14:20:53

#2

D34TH_D34L3R: Member; +48|7075|Belgium

If I had to choose between living the rest of my life as a vegetable. Not being able to do anything anymore. And simply just being nothing more than a huge cost (since it costs a lot of money to keep a person alive with breathing machines etc.) to my family. And the fact that my loved ones can't really start a period of grief (since I'm not dead yet).
Or just 'pulling the plug' so that they don't have to pay anymore, and so that they can start grieving.
Yes, I choose that they 'pull the plug' on me.

Of course I do believe that this should only be allowed if the one who asks for it has a medical reason.

Last edited by D34TH_D34L3R (2006-11-30 14:21:32)

2006-11-30 14:23:44

#3

2tuff: Positive Karma Here!; +357|7034

This is a delicate situation everyone below this line --------------------------

PROCEDE WITH CAUTION.

2006-11-30 14:25:04

#4

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6908

Only if i could be sure that the person in question is relatively sane

2006-11-30 14:26:24

#5

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6951

no, if someone wants to off them self, they can do it without assitance, it aint that hard.

x

2006-11-30 14:28:01

#6

Phantom2828: Member; +51|6786|Land of the free

I say yes, the government cannot say if we can take our own life or not.
Its that persons life they can do what they want with it.
I think it would be better to take your life safety than to jump off a building or something.

2006-11-30 14:44:37

#7

zeidmaan: Member; +234|6673|Vienna

you will never be able to make such a rule because it would be imposible to decide who "meets the requirements" to be killed and who doesnt. And there would definitly have to be "requirements".
Surely you are not saying that, if a healthy 18 year old chick that just got dumped by her BF, walks in to a hospital and says "Hello I want some help with my suicide", a doctor should help her ??

2006-11-30 14:51:47

#8

LockerFish: Member; +47|6964

zeidmaan wrote:
you will never be able to make such a rule because it would be imposible to decide who "meets the requirements" to be killed and who doesnt. And there would definitly have to be "requirements".
Surely you are not saying that, if a healthy 18 year old chick that just got dumped by her BF, walks in to a hospital and says "Hello I want some help with my suicide", a doctor should help her ??

I concur. But in addition, I think before they should be allowed to get out of here, they should have to pay off all their debts. I think that would eliminate most of them anyways since that's probably very difficult.

2006-11-30 15:01:43

#9

TigerXtrm: Death by Indecency; +51|6627|Netherlands

Yes it should be possible under strict guidelines. Those being but not restricted to:

Being over the age of 18 (duh)
Not having been diagnosed with depression in the last 6 months
Having a valid reason to want to take your life away (to much pain from tumors, cancer, whatever)

It's your own life, and dying in the hospital with your loved ones is better then blowing your brains out with a shotgun yes?

Tiger

2006-11-30 15:02:03

#10

Herc82: Member; +3|6687|Currently with the Roo's

Well... The one with the chick doesn't really count... Nobody in their right mind would help her to do that.. (I hope...)

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia for more info..

I would split it however in two themes.. The ones where you can determine previously if your life support should be ended after X days and where it is aimed at sick older/heavily disabled people that have no more 'quality of life'. Personally I agree with both, but a series of Tests and/or discussions with Doctors and an attestation of mental health should be done first! I know there is a program in Switzerland going, though there is always a bit of controversy about it. Especially since people from all over the world go there for that....

2006-11-30 15:37:31

#11

{XpLiCiTxX}: Ohh skeet skeet; +143|6728|New York

TigerXtrm wrote:
Yes it should be possible under strict guidelines. Those being but not restricted to:

Being over the age of 18 (duh)
Not having been diagnosed with depression in the last 6 months
Having a valid reason to want to take your life away (to much pain from tumors, cancer, whatever)

It's your own life, and dying in the hospital with your loved ones is better then blowing your brains out with a shotgun yes?

Tiger

I agree that there must be strict guidelines. Perhaps ever stricter than the ones you state above.

Caner, tumors, ect...

21 years of age (debatable)

Having being diagnosed negative for depression / paranoia ect....

2006-11-30 15:38:28

#12

scottomus0: Teh forum ghey!; +172|6895|Wigan. Manchester. England.

Ugh i did this in English at school. Its always the same answer for most questions. "It depends on the situation".

2006-11-30 15:39:20

#13

Miller: IT'S MILLER TIME!; +271|7014|United States of America

Just seeing the question already means this thead is screwed up.

2006-11-30 15:41:34

#14

BigmacK: Back from the Dead.; +628|7009|Chicago.

In all honesty, I believe that it should be legal. It's a sad thing, but there are many people in the world who live horrid lives because of their medical conditions. Many want out, but just won't, well, die. I think that if it is the will of the person to die, then that should be the end of it.

If I were in the situation, I wouldn't want out. But there are those who disagree with me.

2006-11-30 15:43:51

#15

Miller: IT'S MILLER TIME!; +271|7014|United States of America

BigmacK wrote:
In all honesty, I believe that it should be legal. It's a sad thing, but there are many people in the world who live horrid lives because of their medical conditions. Many want out, but just won't, well, die. I think that if it is the will of the person to die, then that should be the end of it.

If I were in the situation, I wouldn't want out. But there are those who disagree with me.

Haha, but there was a case where a criminal was to be executed, and wanted to be killed because he felt so guilty about his killings. Guess who didn't want to have him killed? Libs. Yet, suicide is fine!

2006-11-30 15:50:15

#16

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6704|The Land of Scott Walker

No. It should not be legal. If someone wants to play God and off themselves, they should do it the old fashion way instead of making a doctor do it for them. Those who don't want to live by artificial means should have a living will stating they do not want to be resuscitated.

This is just another step in the devaluation of life in our society. First abortion, then assisted suicide, then euthenasia when society decides someone does not deserve to live. It's not hard to see the progression here.

2006-11-30 15:56:39

#17

An Enlarged Liver: Member; +35|7001|Backward Ass Kansas

.....see 'Logan's Run' Cheesy old Sci-Fi. When you turn 30 your marked and basically dead. Would solve this damn social security problem, thats for sure.

2006-11-30 16:06:04

#18

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6704|The Land of Scott Walker

Miller wrote:
BigmacK wrote:
In all honesty, I believe that it should be legal. It's a sad thing, but there are many people in the world who live horrid lives because of their medical conditions. Many want out, but just won't, well, die. I think that if it is the will of the person to die, then that should be the end of it.

If I were in the situation, I wouldn't want out. But there are those who disagree with me.
Haha, but there was a case where a criminal was to be executed, and wanted to be killed because he felt so guilty about his killings. Guess who didn't want to have him killed? Libs. Yet, suicide is fine!

Good observation. +1

2006-11-30 16:09:10

#19

Miller: IT'S MILLER TIME!; +271|7014|United States of America

Stingray24 wrote:
Miller wrote:
BigmacK wrote:
In all honesty, I believe that it should be legal. It's a sad thing, but there are many people in the world who live horrid lives because of their medical conditions. Many want out, but just won't, well, die. I think that if it is the will of the person to die, then that should be the end of it.

If I were in the situation, I wouldn't want out. But there are those who disagree with me.
Haha, but there was a case where a criminal was to be executed, and wanted to be killed because he felt so guilty about his killings. Guess who didn't want to have him killed? Libs. Yet, suicide is fine!
Good observation. +1

And also, which I Forgot to mention, abbortions.

2006-11-30 16:11:26

#20

Fen321: Member; +54|6756|Singularity

Assisted suicide....that's kinda of an oxymoron no?

So, i would understand "letting" a person pass away due to having some sort of terminal illness, but if you can honestly find another reason outside of a terminal illness to kill yourself then you really need help anyway.

And about the original posteres logic about a person can do anything they want with their body that simply isn't the case. If that were to hold true you could take all the drugs in the world you wanted....but eh if people need help killing themselves they might as well already be dead dun dun dun......

2006-11-30 16:11:33

#21

jonsimon: Member; +224|6753

Any sane person if we're talking about euthenasia.
No one if we're just talking straight up suicide.

Last edited by jonsimon (2006-11-30 16:12:27)

2006-12-01 04:31:20

#22

D34TH_D34L3R: Member; +48|7075|Belgium

jonsimon wrote:
Any sane person if we're talking about euthenasia.
No one if we're just talking straight up suicide.

2006-12-01 04:53:12

#23

<[onex]>Headstone: Member; +102|6960|New York

zeidmaan wrote:
you will never be able to make such a rule because it would be imposible to decide who "meets the requirements" to be killed and who doesnt. And there would definitly have to be "requirements".
Surely you are not saying that, if a healthy 18 year old chick that just got dumped by her BF, walks in to a hospital and says "Hello I want some help with my suicide", a doctor should help her ??

It wouldnt be like that at all. I say yes, because Ive seen first hand the suffering and pain that cancer causes. Uncureable cancer that spreads like wildfire. Theres really isnt enough or strong enough pain medications that will stop the pain. For people with diseases like this, A quick and painless end(if they choose to) would be a blessing to most of them.

2006-12-01 05:48:39

#24

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6814

It would be tough to legislate for but if they found suitable language and benchmarks then I'd be all for it. Assisted suicide FTW!

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-12-01 05:49:08)

2006-12-01 06:41:15

#25

<[onex]>Headstone: Member; +102|6960|New York

CameronPoe wrote:
It would be tough to legislate for but if they found suitable language and benchmarks then I'd be all for it. Assisted suicide FTW!

Exactly, The right language and things of that nature would be good. If written right, i dont have any problem with it.

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