JaggedPanther
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+61|6732
I've seen the video's before.

And why is a dozen or more dolphin suffering before dying (in an annual event) much more important then (lets start with) millions of chickens that get spent thier daily lives getting scratched up in cages that aren't even big enough for thier heads and bodies so we enjoy breakfast daily? We're just hypocrites!!  This is just the tip of the iceberg, our mass consumption brings on such instances on daily basis. Someone is seriously fooling themselves to think that our convience (included with savings) does not come at a price. 

Like it was said before; Every animal is in a stage of evolution. Just because Dolphins, Chimpanzee's and Black Crows are CURRENTLY higher up the ladder then most in resembling human like intelligence, does not mean they stop being an animals; They are just evolving.

Growing dogs themselves are at times an ugly industry in our own backyard. You know most female dogs were disposed of inhumanely up until the 80's? (until new laws were put in). It's easy to point to the neighbors yard and point out what's currently wrong while dismissing/ignoring your own yard.


And as said before there are video's showing Cows being intelligent and passing maze\color\rememberance tests so the arguement that 'animal x' is intelligent goes out the door. You'll eventually see them, their just not on the internet yet. But they are old tests, which get put into the archives as we are not ready to admit we eat animals capable of such thought en masse yet.


I'll post it again that I'm a carnavore myself (dolphin, crab, cow, chicken' etc) I just don't fool myself.

Last edited by JaggedPanther (2006-11-22 21:59:18)

Not
Great success!
+216|6835|Chandler, AZ

Ty wrote:

@ Not, 'inhumane' dosn't apply stronger when aplied to Humans, inhumane applies to all animals equally. If you were to cut a person's ear off for the means of toprture, it would be equally as inhumane as cutting a dog's ear off. A beheading is quick death when compared for being stabbed, having your backbone ripped apart, being dragged along a road, and being stabbed, bled and suffocated until you die. Just my opinion of course.
Put like that, I can see your point I suppose. Was probably just the wheezing for air while his head was half off, and hostages being shot in the stomach to suffer for a while before shot in the head that got me. Of course I didn't mention that in my original post.

But yeah, I do see your point about the quickness of the kill. Well said.
herrr_smity
Member
+156|6886|space command ur anus
them crazy japs
TuataraDude
Member
+115|6781|Aotearoa
Mmmmmmmmm.............Dolphin Burgers. Flame grilled , a bit of crispy lettuce, some brie cheese and a dash of foie gras. Aaaarggghhh




















jk, I agree it is terrible.

Last edited by TuataraDude (2006-11-24 18:19:36)

beerface702
Member
+65|6951|las vegas
pretty horrible stuff

the japanese are good people though for the most part, i lived there for 5 years of my life, and im certain this practice is done mainly by the older bunch, the newer generation wont stand for it. and i read of protest in the area over the years, but it still happens.

on another note, pigs are highly inteillgent creatures actually.


but i must confess i enjoy me some pork
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6883|Home of the Escalade Herds
Thats fucking disgusting. The casual brutality is sickening...

Ugh. If they're gonna kill them, at least do it fast. Dragging them around, cutting them and watching them flop about in shock, how do these sick fucks sleep at night

TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|6931|Colorado
They make dolphin jerky ffs, they love it. I too have seen the disturbing hunt but if I was japanesse I would most likely love the stuff as well, they don't exactly have the land to raise cattle ot grow things, so they have to use what they have.
Just because we value the dolphin as an intellegent creature doesn't mean they have too, they have every right to do what they have done for generations instead of being harrased for doing thier jobs.

https://smccd.net/accounts/snitovsky/bio215/Labs/images/BC_33_dolphin.jpg
brome
brap.
+244|6845|Accidental, TK
that is terrible.  It's the worst thing I've seen all week.  Can't somebody do something about it? And if it's so traditional, how have "sounding rods under the water's surface" been handed down since ancient times? Sounds a bit high tech to me
this sort of thing really gets to me
cheers for raising this
JaggedPanther
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+61|6732
We can bring up what the older folk do in Japan all we want, it still happens in the western world

http://www.huntingdonsucks.com/gallery/InsideHLS.mpg
http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/Isra … elsheepgen
http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publicati … _nets.html



"A standard beef slaughterhouse kills 250 cattle every hour. The high speed of the assembly line makes it increasingly difficult to treat animals with any semblance of humaneness. A Meat & Poultry article states, "Good handling is extremely difficult if equipment is 'maxed out' all the time. It is impossible to have a good attitude toward cattle if employees have to constantly overexert themselves, and thus transfer all that stress right down to the animals, just to keep up with the line."

Prior to being hung up by their back legs and bled to death, cattle are supposed to be rendered unconscious, as stipulated by the federal Humane Slaughter Act. This 'stunning' is usually done by a mechanical blow to the head. However, the procedure is terribly imprecise, and inadequate stunning is inevitable. As a result, conscious animals are often hung upside down, kicking and struggling, while a slaughterhouse worker makes another attempt to render them unconscious. Eventually, the animals will be "stuck" in the throat with a knife, and blood will gush from their bodies whether or not they are unconscious. 

The cattle were supposed to be dead before they got to Moreno. But too often they weren't.

They blink. They make noises, he said softly. The head moves, the eyes are wide and looking around. Still Moreno would cut. On bad days, he says, dozens of animals reached his station clearly alive and conscious. Some would survive as far as the tail cutter, the belly ripper, the hide puller. They die, said Moreno, piece by piece...

In plants all over the United States, this happens on a daily basis," said Lester Friedlander, a veterinarian and formerly chief government inspector at a Pennsylvania hamburger plant. "I've seen it happen. And I've talked to other veterinarians. They feel it's out of control." "







Prior to being hung upside down by their back legs and bled to death at the slaughterhouse, pigs are supposed to be 'stunned' and rendered unconscious, in accordance with the federal Humane Slaughter Act. However, stunning at slaughterhouses is terribly imprecise, and often conscious animals are hung upside down, kicking and struggling, while a slaughterhouse worker tries to 'stick' them in the neck with a knife. If the worker is unsuccessful, the pig will be carried to the next station on the slaughterhouse assembly line — the scalding tank — where he/she will be boiled, alive and fully conscious.






And this is just the info I found in 5 minutes with Google. So before you point to the other guy; Perhaps think first.


EDIT: Oops forgot the sources for the quotes but do a search with the topic 'animal cruelty' and I think they are somewhere near the top. Don't have time to make a proper arguement.

Last edited by JaggedPanther (2006-11-25 17:22:16)

Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7024|UK

haffeysucks wrote:

That's terrible.  I love wildlife and biology, marine biology most of all.  Dolphins happen to be my favorite animals.  Just another reason for me to dislike the Japanese.
As bad as it seems to us it is called Culture.
BVC
Member
+325|6954

TuataraDude wrote:

Mmmmmmmmm.............Dolphin Burgers. Flame grilled , a bit of crispy lettuce, some brie cheese and a dash of foie gras. Aaaarggghhh
Kakapo salami?

Last edited by Pubic (2006-11-25 18:27:12)

deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6751|Connecticut
I must admit, that video looks like some of their gameshows. Weird bitches.
Malloy must go
s()mtingWong
Member
+48|6951
Lol from protecting cows to whales you biology haters or whatever you guys call yourself gotta think that we humans have to eat. This would be a sad and a serious problem if those japs were driving the dolphins to the brink of extinction.

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