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2008-04-11 07:37:06
usmarine
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Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

I've already made clear my views on opinion based shows...they belong on the entertainment channels not the news channels.
Yes but why no posts about them?  Why no websites about them considering how many there are dedicated to Fox?  Its a terrible bias from the left and liberals.  And it is beyond hypocritical.
How about the right wingers figure out how to use a computer and create some websites or post some clips themselves?

The internet is democratic usmarine...I've never created a site or posted a clip bashing FOX and likewise I've never created a site or posted a clip bashing a left wing news group but I can't control what people do or do not put up on the internet, you're talking as if some liberal biased overlord is controlling the internet.
Think about what I am saying.  Are you going to deny there are multiple websites out there about Fox or O'Rly?

Last edited by usmarine (2008-04-11 07:37:17)

2008-04-11 07:44:16
Braddock
Agitator
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usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:


Yes but why no posts about them?  Why no websites about them considering how many there are dedicated to Fox?  Its a terrible bias from the left and liberals.  And it is beyond hypocritical.
How about the right wingers figure out how to use a computer and create some websites or post some clips themselves?

The internet is democratic usmarine...I've never created a site or posted a clip bashing FOX and likewise I've never created a site or posted a clip bashing a left wing news group but I can't control what people do or do not put up on the internet, you're talking as if some liberal biased overlord is controlling the internet.
Think about what I am saying.  Are you going to deny there are multiple websites out there about Fox or O'Rly?
Think about what I am saying. People can put pretty much whatever they want up on the Internet, within the laws of whatever country they're in. Is it my fault more people put up sites bashing FOX and O'Reilly than the likes of CNN or BBC? Your liberal-biased argument might work for some people when you're talking about an industry or something but it doesn't really wash when it comes to the Internet...are you claiming the Internet is policed and maintained by some shadowy liberal-biased watchdog?

Maybe there's more sites bashing FOX and O'Reilly because FOX and O'Reilly are so much worse than all the rest of them? Have you thought about that usmarine?
2008-04-11 07:48:03
usmarine
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Ok, this is useless.  I am done with this thread.
2008-04-11 07:53:19
Braddock
Agitator
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usmarine wrote:

Ok, this is useless.  I am done with this thread.
Am I missing something usmarine? You're asking me if there are loads of sites bashing FOX and O'Reilly out there...I'm saying yes.

I don't understand your angle here, are you claiming it's a liberal conspiracy on the world wide web? Conservatives are allowed to use the web too, there's no restrictions as far as I know.
2008-04-11 07:56:09
tuckergustav
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usmarine wrote:

Ok, this is useless.  I am done with this thread.
bailing=failing....
...
2008-04-11 07:57:17
usmarine
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tuckergustav wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Ok, this is useless.  I am done with this thread.
bailing=failing....
I have been here for over two years discussing the same old shit time and time again.  So stuff it.
2008-04-11 08:01:10
tuckergustav
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+1,590|6338|...

usmarine wrote:

tuckergustav wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Ok, this is useless.  I am done with this thread.
bailing=failing....
I have been here for over two years discussing the same old shit time and time again.  So stuff it.
nah
...
2008-04-11 12:20:01
Pierre
I hunt criminals down for a living
+68|7100|Belgium

SenorToenails wrote:

Pierre wrote:

stuff
You asked a simple question.  I gave you a simple answer.  The O'Reilly Factor, Hannity and Colmes, On the Record, etc... are clearly opinion shows.  The network is named "Fox News", so their logo is in the corner.  What is even funnier is that there is also an "O'Reilly Factor' logo that appears frequently to warn those not smart enough to figure it out within 30 seconds.  This is all very easy to understand.

Should I start bitching that CNN is just as bad?  Larry King's show has the CNN logo in the corner also.
CNN does not show the logo 'news' onscreen while programs other than the real news are being shown (as far as I know, here in Europe anyway). People can easily make a distinction between Larry King and the news. News is about telling the facts, what happened, without circumstantial talk. Now I understand this is difficult for all networks, but that's the way it should be.

FNC shows the logo 'news' 24/24, hinting all their programs are on the same level. That's how marketing works.
2008-04-11 13:03:37
Pierre
I hunt criminals down for a living
+68|7100|Belgium

usmarine wrote:

Pierre wrote:

I forgot this is a video game forum... so I'll try to explain this in a way you'll be able to get the point.
Why dont you just say "you are stupid?"  That is what you are saying, you know it, and I know it.  So my response to you calling me stupid is for you to go fist yourself.

Now, I answered with my opinion, and you answered with your yours.   And I lump you in with the rest of them, you have such a strong hatred of O'rly and such a strong opinion of the right, that you cannot be objective at all.
I don't think for a minute you're stupid, I know you're only acting that way. Posting 'wow, just wow' doesn't count for an answer, and is not considered to be an opinion either. This may be a video game forum with a lot of young people, but this part is D&ST, and I'm not a kid as you should know. And if you think I'm left on the political side, you could be in for a surprise, I'm rather conservative to be honest.
2008-04-11 13:10:43
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6607|Ireland

Pierre wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Pierre wrote:

I forgot this is a video game forum... so I'll try to explain this in a way you'll be able to get the point.
Why dont you just say "you are stupid?"  That is what you are saying, you know it, and I know it.  So my response to you calling me stupid is for you to go fist yourself.

Now, I answered with my opinion, and you answered with your yours.   And I lump you in with the rest of them, you have such a strong hatred of O'rly and such a strong opinion of the right, that you cannot be objective at all.
I don't think for a minute you're stupid, I know you're only acting that way. Posting 'wow, just wow' doesn't count for an answer, and is not considered to be an opinion either. This may be a video game forum with a lot of young people, but this part is D&ST, and I'm not a kid as you should know. And if you think I'm left on the political side, you could be in for a surprise, I'm rather conservative to be honest.
I have just 2 questions for you:

1.  Is it true that no matter what kind of waffle you order in your country, they will just serve you a Belgium waffle?

2.  What direction does the water flow when you flush your toilet?
2008-04-11 13:33:29
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6554|North Tonawanda, NY

Pierre wrote:

CNN does not show the logo 'news' onscreen while programs other than the real news are being shown (as far as I know, here in Europe anyway). People can easily make a distinction between Larry King and the news. News is about telling the facts, what happened, without circumstantial talk. Now I understand this is difficult for all networks, but that's the way it should be.

FNC shows the logo 'news' 24/24, hinting all their programs are on the same level. That's how marketing works.
I guess my point is CNN is an acronym for "Cable News Network", which is on the bottom corner of the screen.  This is not unusual to anyone, because CNN is the name of the network.  However, Fox News is the name of the channel and if they have their logo on the bottom corner of the screen, it's an insidious tactic meant to deceive the viewers?

The only thing I can say here is that I am smart enough to tell the difference.
2008-04-11 16:43:09
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7130

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:


http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=98408

dripping.

Honestly I don't watch the news enough to immediately recognize which station it is, but halfway during that, I was thinking please don't be Fox news....lol

I don't consider viewpoint on opinion shows, I look at skill of the host.
?????

He reported the news.  What the hell is wrong with that clip?
New recruits who are Hispanic and only speak Spanish, and that means the supervisors who speak only English....

He even pauses after the names of languages or ethnicities.

The last two sentences really get me.

Why not require the workers to speak English? The state has no clear answer on that.

Read: What is the state doing about the immigration problem? Nothing.

That wasn't even necessary.
Well, I think that just about anybody would ask the same question.  It only makes sense to question the government's efficiency when they hire people who don't speak english and fire those that don't speak spanish when the majority of the workers speak english.
2008-04-12 07:01:48
Pierre
I hunt criminals down for a living
+68|7100|Belgium

SenorToenails wrote:

I guess my point is CNN is an acronym for "Cable News Network", which is on the bottom corner of the screen.  This is not unusual to anyone, because CNN is the name of the network.  However, Fox News is the name of the channel and if they have their logo on the bottom corner of the screen, it's an insidious tactic meant to deceive the viewers?

The only thing I can say here is that I am smart enough to tell the difference.
No, it's not an insidious tactic, it's smart marketing.
2008-04-12 07:14:57
Pierre
I hunt criminals down for a living
+68|7100|Belgium

Lotta_Drool wrote:

1.  Is it true that no matter what kind of waffle you order in your country, they will just serve you a Belgium waffle?

2.  What direction does the water flow when you flush your toilet?
1. It's Belgian waffle, not 'Belgium' waffle, and no, there are several versions.

2. Never cared to look tbh, but you're welcome to stick your nose in my toilet anytime, I'll even flush it for you
2008-04-12 07:19:22
Braddock
Agitator
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Pierre wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

I guess my point is CNN is an acronym for "Cable News Network", which is on the bottom corner of the screen.  This is not unusual to anyone, because CNN is the name of the network.  However, Fox News is the name of the channel and if they have their logo on the bottom corner of the screen, it's an insidious tactic meant to deceive the viewers?

The only thing I can say here is that I am smart enough to tell the difference.
No, it's not an insidious tactic, it's smart marketing.
No, I believe it is an insidious tactic. Subliminal and borderline-liminal semiotics are creeping into every area of modern day TV and advertising. You even see it in newspapers; I remember seeing some story about the Iraq war on the front page of a newspaper a while back (can't remember which one) and the main photo on the front page, which was for a different story to the headline, had some fire fighters in a pose that was clearly reminiscent of the iconic 9/11 photo with the American flag. Many people will dismiss this kind of thing as coincidence but as someone who works in the design end of publishing I can tell you that every picture is scrutinised before inclusion and every angle and interpretation of an image is considered, it's never a mistake or a coincidence (particularly so with front page images).

 

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