Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6596|132 and Bush

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The compact fluorescent lightbulb has plenty of supporters in the environmental movement, even while concerns have grown about their disposal. CFLs contain mercury, and when the glass breaks, it spreads the toxic dust in the area. Boosters had previously dismissed concerns over the issue, but now researches worry about the collective effect their massive disposal will have on landfills once they start failing in large numbers:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23694819/
Compact fluorescent light bulbs, long touted by environmentalists as a more efficient and longer-lasting alternative to the incandescent bulbs that have lighted homes for more than a century, are running into resistance from waste industry officials and some environmental scientists, who warn that the bulbs’ poisonous innards pose a bigger threat to health and the environment than previously thought. …

    As long as the mercury is contained in the bulb, CFLs are perfectly safe. But eventually, any bulbs — even CFLs — break or burn out, and most consumers simply throw them out in the trash, said Ellen Silbergeld, a professor of environmental health sciences at Johns Hopkins University and editor of the journal Environmental Research.

    “This is an enormous amount of mercury that’s going to enter the waste stream at present with no preparation for it,” she said.
Even a single CFL could provide toxic levels of exposure for mercury. One contains five milligrams of mercury, which would be enough to contaminate 6,000 gallons of drinking water. Low-mercury models have about one-sixth of the amount, but that’s still enough to contaminate 1,000 gallons. It makes the CFL one of the most toxic components of a household, one that causes kidney and brain damage when people get exposed to enough of it.

What happens when an incandescent bulb hits the floor? Simple: sweep it up, and try not to step on a shard of glass with bare feet. Here’s how people need to handle a broken CFL:
1. Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
2. Shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if you have one.
3. Carefully scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
4. Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder.
5. Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes and place them in the glass jar or plastic bag.
6. Do not use a vacuum or broom to clean up the broken bulb on hard surfaces.
7. Immediately place all cleanup materials outside the building in a trash container or outdoor protected area for the next normal trash.
8. Wash your hands after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing cleanup materials.
9. Check with your local or state government about disposal requirements in your specific area. Some states prohibit such trash disposal and require that broken and unbroken lamps be taken to a recycling center.
10. For at least the next few times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system and open a window prior to vacuuming.
11. Keep the central heating/air conditioning system shut off and the window open for at least 15 minutes after vacuuming is completed.
Er, that’s quite a commitment for a lightbulb. I have several of these around the house, and I had no idea that a break could require such an intense cleanup. Like others who bought these products, I hoped to save a little energy and drive down replacement costs.

And guess what — I can’t even throw these in the garbage, broken or unbroken. As MS-NBC reports, Minnesota requires that I take any CFLs to a disposal center certified to handle them. I didn’t know that until tonight, and I have no idea where such a center might be. It does make sense, though, considering the disposal issues involving mercury.

In other words, we have opted for a product that has much more impact on our environment and could turn households into toxic-waste sites to replace a product that uses a little more energy, a change driven ironically by environmentalists.
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Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6685|Tampa Bay Florida
/fail

*Buys out all the jugs of water from Sweetbay, prepares for apolocypse, AKA Great Depression part II*
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6596|132 and Bush

Spearhead wrote:

/fail

*Buys out all the jugs of water from Sweetbay, *
/fail
http://www.reuters.com/article/domestic … 6820080317
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HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5957|Washington DC
Yeah. When I learned that CFLs use mercury I thought... "So they use less power, ok... until we have cleaner power sources that helps... WAIT THERE'S FUCKING MERCURY IN THIS AND YOU GUYS ARE CALLING IT GREEN?"

I wish everyone could skip the foreplay and get to the good stuff. Bring on hydrogen energy (at least for cars, I'll be content with nuclear and solar energy power plants), and LED bulbs and lighting.

edit: And seriously, wtf? Who's going to actually drive to a special collection center for CFLs? If the government gives us special CFL disposal containers (like the recycling ones) and there's a THIRD truck coming down every Friday morning, CFLs are going to end up in landfills.

Last edited by HurricaИe (2008-03-19 19:20:10)

Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6685|Tampa Bay Florida

Kmarion wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

/fail

*Buys out all the jugs of water from Sweetbay, *
/fail
http://www.reuters.com/article/domestic … 6820080317
Oh crap....



Beyond belief how people could fuck up that badly.... with the CFLs and all.
Darkhelmet
cereal killer
+233|6746|the middle of nowhere
Wow. It's been what, at least one year since these lightbulbs were first introduced?


CFL Manufacturer: "Oh yeah, sorry we forgot to tell you guys, we PUT MERCURY INTO THE LIGHTBULBS, LOL JOKES ON YOU!"

How did anyone not know there was mercury in them?
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5957|Washington DC

Darkhelmet wrote:

Wow. It's been what, at least one year since these lightbulbs were first introduced?


CFL Manufacturer: "Oh yeah, sorry we forgot to tell you guys, we PUT MERCURY INTO THE LIGHTBULBS, LOL JOKES ON YOU!"

How did anyone not know there was mercury in them?
Everyone was caught up in the green scare. The TV told us that CFLs are good, we figured they wouldn't lie about it.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6596|132 and Bush

We're going to need a clean up over here guys.


What happened?



Pillow fight


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N00bkilla55404
Voices are calling...
+136|5927|Somewhere out in Space
Ha, when i saw the thread title i was thinking of this.

Damned my canuckified brain
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5957|Washington DC

Kmarion wrote:

We're going to need a clean up over here guys.


What happened?



Pillow fight


http://i28.tinypic.com/51eexu.jpg
HAZMATs have some badass stuff
liquix
Member
+51|6449|Peoples Republic of Portland

HurricaИe wrote:

Yeah. When I learned that CFLs use mercury I thought... "So they use less power, ok... until we have cleaner power sources that helps... WAIT THERE'S FUCKING MERCURY IN THIS AND YOU GUYS ARE CALLING IT GREEN?"

I wish everyone could skip the foreplay and get to the good stuff. Bring on hydrogen energy (at least for cars, I'll be content with nuclear and solar energy power plants), and LED bulbs and lighting.

edit: And seriously, wtf? Who's going to actually drive to a special collection center for CFLs? If the government gives us special CFL disposal containers (like the recycling ones) and there's a THIRD truck coming down every Friday morning, CFLs are going to end up in landfills.
hydrogen aint happening on a large scale unless your ready to build ten nuclear power plants to provide enough energy to crack water molecules to make the hydrogen.




cfls are basically the nuclear power of the lighting world.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6596|132 and Bush

N00bkilla55404 wrote:

Ha, when i saw the thread title i was thinking of this.

Damned my canuckified brain
I used to think it meant Carbon Friendly Light bulbs .
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HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5957|Washington DC

liquix wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

Yeah. When I learned that CFLs use mercury I thought... "So they use less power, ok... until we have cleaner power sources that helps... WAIT THERE'S FUCKING MERCURY IN THIS AND YOU GUYS ARE CALLING IT GREEN?"

I wish everyone could skip the foreplay and get to the good stuff. Bring on hydrogen energy (at least for cars, I'll be content with nuclear and solar energy power plants), and LED bulbs and lighting.

edit: And seriously, wtf? Who's going to actually drive to a special collection center for CFLs? If the government gives us special CFL disposal containers (like the recycling ones) and there's a THIRD truck coming down every Friday morning, CFLs are going to end up in landfills.
hydrogen aint happening on a large scale unless your ready to build ten nuclear power plants to provide enough energy to crack water molecules to make the hydrogen.




cfls are basically the nuclear power of the lighting world.
Incandescent: Great lighting, but use a lot of energy... but it's really just glass, tungsten, and some other stuff

CFLs: Pretty good lighting, use less energy for the same lighting... MERCURY

LEDs: Expensive because people are berks and aren't making them cheaper, not the best lighting, but otherwise awesome because they last for so long
liquix
Member
+51|6449|Peoples Republic of Portland

HurricaИe wrote:

liquix wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

Yeah. When I learned that CFLs use mercury I thought... "So they use less power, ok... until we have cleaner power sources that helps... WAIT THERE'S FUCKING MERCURY IN THIS AND YOU GUYS ARE CALLING IT GREEN?"

I wish everyone could skip the foreplay and get to the good stuff. Bring on hydrogen energy (at least for cars, I'll be content with nuclear and solar energy power plants), and LED bulbs and lighting.

edit: And seriously, wtf? Who's going to actually drive to a special collection center for CFLs? If the government gives us special CFL disposal containers (like the recycling ones) and there's a THIRD truck coming down every Friday morning, CFLs are going to end up in landfills.
hydrogen aint happening on a large scale unless your ready to build ten nuclear power plants to provide enough energy to crack water molecules to make the hydrogen.




cfls are basically the nuclear power of the lighting world.
Incandescent: Great lighting, but use a lot of energy... but it's really just glass, tungsten, and some other stuff

CFLs: Pretty good lighting, use less energy for the same lighting... MERCURY

LEDs: Expensive because people are berks and aren't making them cheaper, not the best lighting, but otherwise awesome because they last for so long
Yup, pretty good description of the three big boys in lighting. My point was that CFLs are efficient, but environmentally hazardous; like nuclear power.
13rin
Member
+977|6474
I laugh at the hippies/yuppies that flocked to the store like sheep to spend more on a product that is just as bad, if not worse for the environment.  Oh the irony!
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6524|Global Command
I just found a new possible career path!

100 grams of mercury sells for $503.00.

I shall promptly open up free disposal and collection centers. Mercury has been driven sky high by among other things South American peasant miners still using it to mine gold. I shall sell it cheap to mines only using child slave labor.
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5957|Washington DC

ATG wrote:

I just found a new possible career path!

100 grams of mercury sells for $503.00.

I shall promptly open up free disposal and collection centers. Mercury has been driven sky high by among other things South American peasant miners still using it to mine gold. I shall sell it cheap to mines only using child slave labor.
Don't CFLs use mercury gas? Gotta get some liquid nitrogen
liquix
Member
+51|6449|Peoples Republic of Portland

DBBrinson1 wrote:

I laugh at the hippies/yuppies that flocked to the store like sheep to spend more on a product that is just as bad, if not worse for the environment.  Oh the irony!
Just because you were stubborn and didn't want to change, don't act like you knew from the beginning.
13rin
Member
+977|6474

liquix wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

I laugh at the hippies/yuppies that flocked to the store like sheep to spend more on a product that is just as bad, if not worse for the environment.  Oh the irony!
Just because you were stubborn and didn't want to change, don't act like you knew from the beginning.
You are right.  I didn't know.  Don't care.  I still think it fucking hilarious though. 

I also don't recycle anything other than aluminum (it's a fucking sham).  I also drive a Jeep that gets 11 miles to the gallon.  I don't care, I can afford it.  Global warming is also crap. I use as much carbon as fucking possible too.  I never bought into that greenpeace, treehugging, sexwithanimals, ecobullshit either.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Captain_Iron_shooter
Member
+2|6684|Montreal, QC. Canada

Kmarion wrote:

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And guess what — I can’t even throw these in the garbage, broken or unbroken. As MS-NBC reports, Minnesota requires that I take any CFLs to a disposal center certified to handle them. I didn’t know that until tonight, and I have no idea where such a center might be. It does make sense, though, considering the disposal issues involving mercury.
Home depot (and many other hardware store) collect them here in Canada, don't know in the USA.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6596|132 and Bush

I had no idea my house was a time bomb.

https://i25.tinypic.com/1t77o9.png

https://i31.tinypic.com/w8xifq.png

https://i29.tinypic.com/2073ig1.png
Wait whut?

https://i27.tinypic.com/2cxvz0z.png

https://i31.tinypic.com/mvg4sj.png

https://i31.tinypic.com/20i8iah.png

Am I trying to save the Planet.. or money? You Decide.

https://i29.tinypic.com/dc7eyp.png
I wonder if anyone gets the point of this picture.
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HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5957|Washington DC

Kmarion wrote:

I had no idea my house was a time bomb.

http://i25.tinypic.com/1t77o9.png

http://i31.tinypic.com/w8xifq.png

http://i29.tinypic.com/2073ig1.png
Wait whut?

http://i27.tinypic.com/2cxvz0z.png

http://i31.tinypic.com/mvg4sj.png

http://i31.tinypic.com/20i8iah.png

Am I trying to save the Planet.. or money? You Decide.

http://i29.tinypic.com/dc7eyp.png
I wonder if anyone gets the point of this picture.
planet-raper
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6596|132 and Bush

HurricaИe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I had no idea my house was a time bomb.

http://i25.tinypic.com/1t77o9.png

http://i31.tinypic.com/w8xifq.png

http://i29.tinypic.com/2073ig1.png
Wait whut?

http://i27.tinypic.com/2cxvz0z.png

http://i31.tinypic.com/mvg4sj.png

http://i31.tinypic.com/20i8iah.png

Am I trying to save the Planet.. or money? You Decide.

http://i29.tinypic.com/dc7eyp.png
I wonder if anyone gets the point of this picture.
planet-raper
It's just to make sure I don't draw power from my Home theater.
The street lights dim when I crank it up.
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Reciprocity
Member
+721|6576|the dank(super) side of Oregon

MSNBC wrote:

That was the wrong answer, according to the EPA. It offers a detailed, 11-step procedure you should follow: Air out the room for a quarter of an hour. Wear gloves. Double-bag the refuse. Use duct tape to lift the residue from a carpet. Don’t use a vacuum cleaner, as that will only spread the problem. The next time you vacuum the area, immediately dispose of the vacuum bag.
reading this reminded me of the Anal Retentive Chef.
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SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6564|Mountains of NC

lights a candle



and feeds the mouse on the wheely thing that powers my computer ............. yeah I take green to the xtreme



@Kmarion your desk is way to clean ...... I mean shit, I can see a reflection on the glass ........ I demand a mess of some sorts , now
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