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HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5297|Washington DC
This is the new IE8 beta. I've heard it's a lot faster than IE7, and Microsoft has finally made it standards-compliant (remember it's beta so there are probably kinks, but their goal is to make IE standards-compliant). I'm gonna download it when I get home... even if it's a buggy POS, since I never use IE... this could possibly change that

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/produc … nstall.htm
Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|5743|Somersetshire
we should all ask this question


"how is it better then firefox (beta 3 included) and opera 9(?)?"

Last edited by Tehremos (2008-03-06 05:43:06)

HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5297|Washington DC

Tehremos wrote:

we should all ask this question


"how is it better then firefox (beta 3 included) and opera 9(?)?"
Damned if I know... the main advantage is that if these guys actually make it standards compliant, then the web will be better because then (I think) all the major browsers (IE, Opera, Firefox, Safari) will be standards-compliant. So no more "This site designed for IE"
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|5533|Winland

I still don't want IE. Why support Microshit when you can support open source?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Loonyk
Member
+5|5495|Saint-Hubert, Québec,Canada

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I still don't want IE. Why support Microshit when you can support open source?
Why support BF2 when the is boardgames being sold at WalMart...

Come on... he just want to point out that if Microsoft is making their browser standard compliant...that means a better web surfing experience for the common user that don't know any alernative...

Thats just like food...their is better thing than frozen veggies... but most people don't have time to cook!!!
Parker
isteal
+1,452|5729|The Gem Saloon

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I still don't want IE. Why support Microshit when you can support open source?
you little rebel, you!
Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|5743|Somersetshire

Loonyk wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I still don't want IE. Why support Microshit when you can support open source?
Why support BF2 when the is boardgames being sold at WalMart...

Come on... he just want to point out that if Microsoft is making their browser standard compliant...that means a better web surfing experience for the common user that don't know any alernative...

Thats just like food...their is better thing than frozen veggies... but most people don't have time to cook!!!
microsoft are still only really selling supermarket own brand, where as opera and firefox is the Cadbury's of the internet browser world
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|5717|the land of bourbon

Tehremos wrote:

Loonyk wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I still don't want IE. Why support Microshit when you can support open source?
Why support BF2 when the is boardgames being sold at WalMart...

Come on... he just want to point out that if Microsoft is making their browser standard compliant...that means a better web surfing experience for the common user that don't know any alernative...

Thats just like food...their is better thing than frozen veggies... but most people don't have time to cook!!!
microsoft are still only really selling supermarket own brand, where as opera and firefox is the Cadbury's of the internet browser world


ok so i am trying to install... first attempt failed... missing a windows update... now i have to reboot... par for the course so far...

Last edited by steelie34 (2008-03-06 06:17:28)

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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,610|5956|London, England
Why fix things that aren't broken. Firefox 2 works fine for me, I haven't ever really had any problems with IE7 or Opera either. And I don't really see anything new in Firefox 3 etc.. so what the fuck is going on
Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|5743|Somersetshire
i shall check it out

DL'ed it, now installing
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|5717|the land of bourbon
bwahahahahahahah.... i clicked a link, guess what happend:

https://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171/steelie34/IEfails.jpg

omfg... it is so slow.  and it keeps crashing.  laaaame

so far there is no visual difference.  it has an "IE7 emulation mode" which is pretty (ahem) lame.  some menus are different...

lol there is a "work offline" option right on the tools menu.  now i can surf the web without an internet connection!  yes!

Last edited by steelie34 (2008-03-06 06:41:46)

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Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|5743|Somersetshire
when it's says "checking your computer for malicious software"

what exactly is it looking for lol
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|5717|the land of bourbon

Tehremos wrote:

when it's says "checking your computer for malicious software"

what exactly is it looking for lol
firefox or opera
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Marlboroman82
Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.
+1,022|5959|Camp XRay

steelie34 wrote:

bwahahahahahahah.... i clicked a link, guess what happend:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171 … Efails.jpg

omfg... it is so slow.  and it keeps crashing.  laaaame

so far there is no visual difference.  it has an "IE7 emulation mode" which is pretty ghey.  some menus are different...

lol there is a "work offline" option right on the tools menu.  now i can surf the web without an internet connection!  yes!
https://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/ghey-33917.jpg
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Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|5743|Somersetshire

steelie34 wrote:

lol there is a "work offline" option right on the tools menu.  now i can surf the web without an internet connection!  yes!
lol my firefox theme has that option lol, if imageshack will let me upload the bloody image i can show you lol

the theme is called "vista aero"



Edit: here it is



https://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1861/myfirefoxthemegj9.png

Last edited by Tehremos (2008-03-06 06:51:28)

Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|5743|Somersetshire
lol, i tried it, found it to be slow, slightly un-responsive and looks ugly lol, way too many buttons and icons
FredFLQ
S0tp R4p1nG u5!!1one
+47|5866|Donnacona, Quebec
Meh.

It's faster than IE7, but definatly slower than FF with FasterFox.

And Vbulletin forums are fucked up on it.
cablecopulate
Member
+449|6073|Massachusetts.
It's beta, what do you expect?
Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|5743|Somersetshire

cablecopulate wrote:

It's beta, what do you expect?
it pretty much IE7 though, just with maybe a few more bugs
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|5789|The Twilight Zone
Waiting for Firefox 3...
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FloppY_
­
+1,010|5621|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

.Sup wrote:

Waiting for Firefox 3...
­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6068|St. Andrews / Oslo

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I still don't want IE. Why support Microshit when you can support open source?
What if... yes, what if... Microsoft made an awesome browser? If IE 8 was better than FireFox?

You don't pay for it (like many people say, for some reason), it's a simple install...... Why not try?
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rh27
Not really a Brit
+51|5932|England
Installed it, really haven't noticed a difference except the text is somehow easier to read from the blurred shit it had before.
Pages display the same as Opera and FF finally.
It's still substantially faster than BloatFox even with the FasterFox add on.
Haven't noticed any of the errors everyone is complaining of so fuck knows what they're on about.
Basically it's more or less the same as before. I'll stick to Opera and use this for testing.

A thought: do old websites designed only for IE with non-compliant code now not work properly in IE8?
ReTox
Member
+100|5834|State of RETOXification
Microsoft's compliance of standards is a relative term.  Even Balmer said that IE8 will be as standards compliant as they can make it but if they can't then they'll make changes.

Microsoft is only touting standards now because so many have bitched at them for it.  I suspect IE8 will not be a standards compliant browser, Microsoft loves to reuse old code trees (I've seen Win98 dialogs in Vista FFS) so I highly doubt they'll start a whole new development code base to ensure compliance.
mikkel
Member
+383|5937
I'm sure IE8 and 9 will get Microsoft close to catching up with the others in the standards compliance department. They've already taken a big step with IE8, breaking most websites relying on IE < 8 kinks in IE8 native mode.

No serious browser is fully standards compliant, but hopefully an IE aiming for compliance will force other development teams into focusing more on compliance, rather what they're doing today, which is more or less sitting back with their arms crossed and all agreeing that at least they're better than IE.

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