USA # 1!!! *incarcerations*

2008-02-29 10:25:19

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IRONCHEF: Member; +385|6642|Northern California

Hey GS, maybe you can tell us what it's like in the clink!

This just in, and truly a source of pride for the #1 country in the world! The moral authority! The land of the Decider!

"For the first time in U.S. history, more than one in every 100 adults are in jail or prison, according to a new report documenting America's rank as the world's No. 1 incarcerator. It urges states to curtail corrections spending by placing fewer low-risk offenders behind bars.

Using state-by-state data, the report says 2,319,258 Americans were in jail or prison at the start of 2008 - one in 99.1 adults. Whether per capita or in raw numbers, it's more than any other nation."

Read on: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation … 7053.story

https://www.baltimoresun.com/media/graphic/2008-02/36221237.jpg

God bless Texas, eh? or is it "Don't mess with Texas?" I fergit.

Montana, here I come!!

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2008-02-29 10:29:48

#2

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6772|London, England

inb4illegal immigrants

Surely places like China/North Korea/Iran have more?

2008-02-29 10:32:54

#3

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6912

Mek-Izzle wrote:
inb4illegal immigrants

Surely places like China/North Korea/Iran have more?

yes but they do not report and control the media.

But IC is a muppet.

2008-02-29 10:34:19

#4

IRONCHEF: Member; +385|6642|Northern California

Mek-Izzle wrote:
inb4illegal immigrants

Surely places like China/North Korea/Iran have more?

Who knows. One percent of your population incarcerated doesn't seem like allot, but it is apparently. Also, I'm guessing it's safe to say that China, NK, and Iran probably kill their baddies so they're not really incarcerated anymore. I believe NK still has soviet era Goulags in their northern area. Surely they're not counted.

2008-02-29 10:35:47

#5

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6800

death sentence ftw

2008-02-29 10:36:44

#6

(T)eflon(S)hadow: R.I.P. Neda; +456|6980|Grapevine, TX

It's really simple.
Live by the laws of the land=Live Free
Break the laws of the land=Live in Prison.

Smells like Summer's Eve=IRONCHEF

2008-02-29 10:37:47

#7

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6281|North Tonawanda, NY

You do the crime, you do the time.

2008-02-29 10:37:57

#8

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6669|Montucky

In texas we take two things seriously

Prisons.

and Football.

2008-02-29 10:38:09

#9

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6562|'Murka

IRONCHEF wrote:
God bless Texas, eh? or is it "Don't mess with Texas?" I fergit.

Montana, here I come!!

Or here's a crazy thought: Don't do something illegal.

It's a whacked concept, I know...but it just might work.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-02-29 10:45:10

#10

ShowMeTheMonkey: Member; +125|6853

What is the state with the lowest? I see the 5.6% but no idea what state it is.

Also i thought New York would have a hell of a lot.

2008-02-29 10:45:21

#11

Marinejuana: local; +415|6736|Seattle

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
It's really simple.
Live by the laws of the land=Live Free
Break the laws of the land=Live in Prison.

Smells like Summer's Eve=IRONCHEF

except when some of the laws are more criminal than the people behind bars. thats when the system fails. i forget the statistic, but its a depressingly large % of prisoners that are incarcerated for non-violent offenses like drug possession. i mean you guys hate the thought of citizens sitting around doing drugs and generally not contributing to the common good. isnt it that much worse when the police pick up someone like this and mandate that the govt pay for their food, room & board for a decade?

2008-02-29 10:52:23

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6912

Marinejuana wrote:
(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
It's really simple.
Live by the laws of the land=Live Free
Break the laws of the land=Live in Prison.

Smells like Summer's Eve=IRONCHEF
except when some of the laws are more criminal than the people behind bars. thats when the system fails. i forget the statistic, but its a depressingly large % of prisoners that are incarcerated for non-violent offenses like drug possession. i mean you guys hate the thought of citizens sitting around doing drugs and generally not contributing to the common good. isnt it that much worse when the police pick up someone like this and mandate that the govt pay for their food, room & board for a decade?

I knew it would come down to pot with you.

IT IS ILLEGAL.....GET THE FUCK OVER IT PEOPLE.

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2008-02-29 11:02:00

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IRONCHEF: Member; +385|6642|Northern California

ShowMeTheMonkey wrote:
What is the state with the lowest? I see the 5.6% but no idea what state it is.

Also i thought New York would have a hell of a lot.

I believe North Dakota had the lowest at 1440 incarcerated. It's on the graphic i think.

2008-02-29 11:36:08

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PureFodder: Member; +225|6436

SenorToenails wrote:
You do the crime, you do the time.

I think the point is that the time can be disproportionate to the crime. Things like the three strikes law can result in stupid sentencing for utterly trivial crimes.

Half of the US prison population is in for non-violent crime.

2008-02-29 11:37:28

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6912

PureFodder wrote:
Half of the US prison population is in for non-violent crime.

So if I hacked into someones bank account and stole all their money, I should not go to jail?

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2008-02-29 11:48:48

#16

PureFodder: Member; +225|6436

usmarine wrote:
PureFodder wrote:
Half of the US prison population is in for non-violent crime.
So if I hacked into someones bank account and stole all their money, I should not go to jail?

The percentage of the prison populace that is for non-violent crimes is determined by the number of non-violent criminals convicted and the length of their sentence.

The issue is the length of the sentence.

2008-02-29 11:51:35

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S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6669|Montucky

Marinejuana wrote:
(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
It's really simple.
Live by the laws of the land=Live Free
Break the laws of the land=Live in Prison.

Smells like Summer's Eve=IRONCHEF
except when some of the laws are more criminal than the people behind bars. thats when the system fails. i forget the statistic, but its a depressingly large % of prisoners that are incarcerated for non-violent offenses like drug possession. i mean you guys hate the thought of citizens sitting around doing drugs and generally not contributing to the common good. isnt it that much worse when the police pick up someone like this and mandate that the govt pay for their food, room & board for a decade?

So.. Meth cooks, shouldn't go to prison?

you only go to prison for drug possession when its VAST quantities.. I.E. Grow Operations. Not your average pothead like you that maybe has a ounce or two. He'll spend a few in county, not a state prison.

2008-02-29 11:51:38

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6912

PureFodder wrote:
The issue is the length of the sentence.

ok?????????

2008-02-29 11:54:17

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cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6847|NJ

usmarine wrote:
PureFodder wrote:
Half of the US prison population is in for non-violent crime.
So if I hacked into someones bank account and stole all their money, I should not go to jail?

Honestly no.. You should have to pay the persons back + interest.. You go to jail doesn't help the situation you're in jail they have no money it's lose/lose..

2008-02-29 11:54:42

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6751|132 and Bush

Call it Socialism.. we are taking care of our homeless problem. Free housing, meals, and education. Welfare state full steam ahead.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-02-29 11:55:56

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6912

cpt.fass1 wrote:
usmarine wrote:
PureFodder wrote:
Half of the US prison population is in for non-violent crime.
So if I hacked into someones bank account and stole all their money, I should not go to jail?
Honestly no.. You should have to pay the persons back + interest.. You go to jail doesn't help the situation you're in jail they have no money it's lose/lose..

What if you spend it all before you get caught? Then that person will get paid back slowly over time. Some justice.

2008-02-29 11:57:47

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6751|132 and Bush

usmarine wrote:
cpt.fass1 wrote:
usmarine wrote:
So if I hacked into someones bank account and stole all their money, I should not go to jail?
Honestly no.. You should have to pay the persons back + interest.. You go to jail doesn't help the situation you're in jail they have no money it's lose/lose..
What if you spend it all before you get caught? Then that person will get paid back slowly over time. Some justice.

People also learn useful skills when they are in prison. It may improve their employment situation when they get out.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-02-29 11:58:29

#23

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6847|NJ

usmarine wrote:
cpt.fass1 wrote:
usmarine wrote:

So if I hacked into someones bank account and stole all their money, I should not go to jail?
Honestly no.. You should have to pay the persons back + interest.. You go to jail doesn't help the situation you're in jail they have no money it's lose/lose..
What if you spend it all before you get caught? Then that person will get paid back slowly over time. Some justice.

OH i was assuming that they spent it all.. Mandatory work program that goes to me.. Yeah slowly over time is better then never..

2008-02-29 11:59:46

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6912

cpt.fass1 wrote:
OH i was assuming that they spent it all.. Mandatory work program that goes to me.. Yeah slowly over time is better then never..

I would assume he would spend a year or six months in jail, then start paying it back. I would prefer that if I were the victim.

2008-02-29 12:03:12

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6751|132 and Bush

You guys ever here of something call fdic? He would most likely owe the government since it is insured. Have him go pick up some trash or make some license plates.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

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