Two F-15s colide over gulf of mexico

2008-02-20 15:46:07

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SealXo: Member; +309|6537

(CNN) -- The pilots of two F-15C fighter jets that collided Wednesday over the Gulf of Mexico have been rescued, authorities said.

Two F-15C fighter jets, like the one pictured, collided over the Gulf of Mexico, the Air Force says.

Air Force search and rescue and U.S. Coast Guard crews raced to the scene of the collision to pick up the two fliers, who had been on a routine training mission.

The single-seat jets were part of the 33rd Fighter Wing, a combat unit based at Eglin Air Force Base in the Florida panhandle.

The crash happened at about 3 p.m. ET and about 50 miles south of Tyndall Air Force Base in Panama City, Florida.

In January a top Air Force general said a manufacturing defect blamed for causing a mid-air breakup of an F-15 Eagle fighter, which occurred in November, might lead the Air Force to permanently ground a quarter of those warplanes.

There is no information currently that points to a malfunctioning defect as the cause of Wednesday's incident.

2008-02-20 15:47:15

#2

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6655

Well at least they were rescued. Phew.

2008-02-20 16:02:15

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paranoid101: Ambitious but Rubbish; +540|6741

Glad to hear the pilots got out safely and were rescued quickly

2008-02-20 16:10:31

#4

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6538|Long Island, New York

Good. When the broke the news on CNN they made it seem like it fatal. Glad to see they made it out okay!

2008-02-20 16:57:41

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TC.Troy: Let the rough side drag; +111|6574

Two 15-C's colliding...on a training flight...

hmm...

tell me again what this may or may bot have to do with a defect?? The F-15 has been flying almost as long as I have been alive...
Defect? Now?? huh???

The F-15 is very argueably the BEST fighter aircraft to EVER see the sky...and 30 years later, we are JUST finding a defect?

ummm...

lol

2008-02-20 17:04:31

#6

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6382|the land of bourbon

TC.Troy wrote:
Two 15-C's colliding...on a training flight...

hmm...

tell me again what this may or may bot have to do with a defect?? The F-15 has been flying almost as long as I have been alive...
Defect? Now?? huh???

The F-15 is very argueably the BEST fighter aircraft to EVER see the sky...and 30 years later, we are JUST finding a defect?

ummm...

lol

there are literally hundreds of articles about how slow production has been for the f-22. what better way to help boost it by finding "flaws" with our current air superiority fighter.

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2008-02-20 17:08:40

#7

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6448|Chicago, IL

paranoid101 wrote:
Glad to hear the pilots got out safely and were rescued quickly

+2 for the F-15, a lot of other planes would have disintegrated on impact.

2008-02-20 17:08:48

#8

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6569|Mountains of NC

collide in air ..................... is there not enough space up there

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2008-02-20 17:11:13

#9

(T)eflon(S)hadow: R.I.P. Neda; +456|6830|Grapevine, TX

steelie34 wrote:
TC.Troy wrote:
Two 15-C's colliding...on a training flight...

hmm...

tell me again what this may or may bot have to do with a defect?? The F-15 has been flying almost as long as I have been alive...
Defect? Now?? huh???

The F-15 is very argueably the BEST fighter aircraft to EVER see the sky...and 30 years later, we are JUST finding a defect?

ummm...

lol
there are literally hundreds of articles about how slow production has been for the f-22. what better way to help boost it by finding "flaws" with our current air superiority fighter.

I hate to think of that presumption, but you have to remain open to that gross reality. I cant imagine this being planned at any level.

2008-02-20 17:11:15

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TSI: Cholera in the time of love; +247|5982|Toronto

hmmm...not quite sure whether I should be proud of the F-15 or not.
I heard a story a while back of one crashing into another plane, and landing with only one wing...that was amazing.

I like pie.

2008-02-20 17:13:50

#11

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6382|the land of bourbon

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
steelie34 wrote:
TC.Troy wrote:
Two 15-C's colliding...on a training flight...

hmm...

tell me again what this may or may bot have to do with a defect?? The F-15 has been flying almost as long as I have been alive...
Defect? Now?? huh???

The F-15 is very argueably the BEST fighter aircraft to EVER see the sky...and 30 years later, we are JUST finding a defect?

ummm...

lol
there are literally hundreds of articles about how slow production has been for the f-22. what better way to help boost it by finding "flaws" with our current air superiority fighter.
I hate to think of that presumption, but you have to remain open to that gross reality. I cant imagine this being planned at any level.

of course they wouldn't plan this, thats just me being a punk... they could make up tons of other shit about air worthiness. but i guarantee you they will take every opportunity possible to publicize the f15.

they probably bumped each other in a formation. leave it to the media to use the word "collide" to conjure up an image of a head-on collision. technically, they could hit wingtips and you could say they collided.

and the fact that the story mentions the airframe deficiencies really makes me think they are pushing to retire the only undefeated air-to-air combat fighter ever produced.

Last edited by steelie34 (2008-02-20 17:14:40)

2008-02-20 17:14:39

#12

Commie Killer: Member; +192|6388

steelie34 wrote:
TC.Troy wrote:
Two 15-C's colliding...on a training flight...

hmm...

tell me again what this may or may bot have to do with a defect?? The F-15 has been flying almost as long as I have been alive...
Defect? Now?? huh???

The F-15 is very argueably the BEST fighter aircraft to EVER see the sky...and 30 years later, we are JUST finding a defect?

ummm...

lol
there are literally hundreds of articles about how slow production has been for the f-22. what better way to help boost it by finding "flaws" with our current air superiority fighter.

Wonderful conspiracy theory, but no.

The airframe is coming up on 40 years old, thats is DAMN good for any aircraft.

2008-02-20 17:15:38

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6154|what

A collision sounds more like pilot error than a defect to me. Especially if the pilot's were in training.

2008-02-20 17:15:46

#14

Commie Killer: Member; +192|6388

TSI wrote:
hmmm...not quite sure whether I should be proud of the F-15 or not.
I heard a story a while back of one crashing into another plane, and landing with only one wing...that was amazing.

Yeah just saw that story on wiki.

2008-02-20 17:17:54

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steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6382|the land of bourbon

TheAussieReaper wrote:
A collision sounds more like pilot error than a defect to me. Especially if the pilot's were in training.

correct... but it's being skewed as a "problem" with the older airframe. believe me, i am the biggest fan of our air force, and especially the eagle. but you gotta retire on top, ya know?

2008-02-20 17:22:28

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TC.Troy: Let the rough side drag; +111|6574

TSI wrote:
hmmm...not quite sure whether I should be proud of the F-15 or not.
I heard a story a while back of one crashing into another plane, and landing with only one wing...that was amazing.

Aye, I've seen video of that landing, plain and simple, the pilot is lucky to be alive...not to mention the fact he landed safely, with all 3 gear down and locked...

Flaw in the 15...

somebody, some...thing...(with credibility) is gonna have to proove that one to me.

2008-02-20 17:26:02

#17

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6382|the land of bourbon

TC.Troy wrote:
TSI wrote:
hmmm...not quite sure whether I should be proud of the F-15 or not.
I heard a story a while back of one crashing into another plane, and landing with only one wing...that was amazing.
Aye, I've seen video of that landing, plain and simple, the pilot is lucky to be alive...not to mention the fact he landed safely, with all 3 gear down and locked...

Flaw in the 15...

somebody, some...thing...(with credibility) is gonna have to proove that one to me.

read that article... some air force general is saying there are airframe reliability issues, and threatening to ground 1/4 of the planes. this is a smoke and mirrors excuse to get our new plane up. but it costs money, and some in congress don't like spending it on that kind of thing, so the military has to find ways to "need" the money. cmon, the f-15 is like, 104-0 or some shit. we don't "need" the f-22, but do you really want to stop production?

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2008-02-20 17:27:11

#18

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|5987|Aus, Qld

So they Broke up mid flight, and didn't collide?

2008-02-20 17:30:02

#19

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6382|the land of bourbon

bakinacake wrote:
So they Broke up mid flight, and didn't collide?

no no, they are two separate incidents. but everytime you see a story of an f-15, they will mention the airframe bullshit.

2008-02-20 17:32:57

#20

TC.Troy: Let the rough side drag; +111|6574

steelie34 wrote:
(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:
steelie34 wrote:

there are literally hundreds of articles about how slow production has been for the f-22. what better way to help boost it by finding "flaws" with our current air superiority fighter.
I hate to think of that presumption, but you have to remain open to that gross reality. I cant imagine this being planned at any level.
of course they wouldn't plan this, thats just me being a punk... they could make up tons of other shit about air worthiness. but i guarantee you they will take every opportunity possible to publicize the f15.

they probably bumped each other in a formation. leave it to the media to use the word "collide" to conjure up an image of a head-on collision. technically, they could hit wingtips and you could say they collided.

and the fact that the story mentions the airframe deficiencies really makes me think they are pushing to retire the only undefeated air-to-air combat fighter ever produced.

Yeah, I see that, and agree.

On the undefeated point...

The F-15 is a wicked fighter, and has gone well over 100 to 1 in air-air kills. As I understand it, all air forces that own the aircraft have enjoyed an unprecidented kill ratio.
I understand how the US govt. manipulates the media to work money...

The F-22 is taking unprecidented numbers of kills in "red-flag" type mock engagements...vs F-15's...
12-15 and 18 to 1 are commonly quoted figures...

2008-02-20 17:33:23

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bakinacake: HA HA; +383|5987|Aus, Qld

steelie34 wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
So they Broke up mid flight, and didn't collide?
no no, they are two separate incidents. but everytime you see a story of an f-15, they will mention the airframe bullshit.

Then whats colliding got to do with anything, did they collide with air or something?

2008-02-20 17:35:28

#22

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6382|the land of bourbon

bakinacake wrote:
steelie34 wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
So they Broke up mid flight, and didn't collide?
no no, they are two separate incidents. but everytime you see a story of an f-15, they will mention the airframe bullshit.
Then whats colliding got to do with anything, did they collide with air or something?

godamit read the article

2008-02-20 17:36:41

#23

bakinacake: HA HA; +383|5987|Aus, Qld

steelie34 wrote:
bakinacake wrote:
steelie34 wrote:
no no, they are two separate incidents. but everytime you see a story of an f-15, they will mention the airframe bullshit.
Then whats colliding got to do with anything, did they collide with air or something?
godamit read the article

I did.

The pilots of two F-15C fighter jets that collided

crews raced to the scene of the collision

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2008-02-20 17:36:58

#24

Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6329

I'm gonna act like the idiots here who dont read and just say something like:

"No way it was HUgeo Chaves I know cause hes a communisht and thths what they DoO!!!1"

Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.

2008-02-20 17:39:05

#25

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6382|the land of bourbon

lol^^^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15

"As of 2008, the F-15 in all air forces has an air-to-air combined kill record of 104 kills to 0 losses in air combat.[31] To date, no air superiority versions of the F-15 (A/B/C/D models) have ever been shot down by an enemy."

haxtbh

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