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usmarine wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

I dunno, maybe a bunch of assholes following a nutjob leader (watch the videos).  This can't be considered a Religion, not yet.  Maybe all Religions started as a cult.  In fact, Scientology is not even a cult, but a business.

Funny that the Vatican is one of the largest real estate owners in the world.  Not to mention their art collection.  But, I guess that is not business, it is what Jesus wanted.

Anyone?

Point is, he is saying it is not a religion because it is a business, and because it is full of celebs.  Yet I show you the Catholic church has WAY more money and WAY more celebs then scientology, but it is somehow invalidated.  I don't get it.  I think they are nutjobs, but I think the same about every religion.  Some just take it further than others.

So, since we can see the Catholic church is a bigger fraud than scientology, why does nobody bash the catholic church?

Last edited by usmarine (2008-02-16 10:50:29)

OrangeHound wrote:

Can one fully participate in Scientology without paying?

In order to fully participate in the catholic church you need to be baptised.  Last time I checked that cost money.

Last edited by usmarine (2008-02-16 11:24:58)

Basically I think we are all in agreement that Scientology is a CULT and a load of bollocks!

The Sheriff wrote:

usmarine wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

Can one fully participate in Scientology without paying?

In order to fully participate in the catholic church you need to be baptised.  Last time I checked that cost money.

Not where i'm from, church is free.

Scientology isn't.

"baptism" and "marriage" are different than mass.  Where I come from, unless you are a MEMBER, you have to pay.

usmarine wrote:

Point is, he is saying it is not a religion because it is a business, and because it is full of celebs.  Yet I show you the Catholic church has WAY more money and WAY more celebs then scientology, but it is somehow invalidated.  I don't get it.  I think they are nutjobs, but I think the same about every religion.  Some just take it further than others.

So, since we can see the Catholic church is a bigger fraud than scientology, why does nobody bash the catholic church?

I can't believe you don't get the difference.  Scientology followers are all nutjobs and while you are right that the Vatican is a real business, most Christians are peaceful people who aren't making a business out of Christianity.  That's the difference.

Personally, I think we should end the tax exemption status of ALL religions.  Just because you're worshipping somewhere doesn't mean I should have to give you a tax credit for it.  You should have to pay your way just like everyone else.

ur missing the point of the scientology issue if u think they are taking over the govt or something. they are just a problem because they exploit the fuck out of people. they dont have significant political power. ...even if they are a rather large, wealthy organization.

sergeriver wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

except, the people that make a business out of christianity influence the majority of those that do not.  is it really that difficult to comprehend?

That's supposing that the said majority of Christians are dumb.

The majority of just about any group is dumb.  You can't really change that.

The way I see it...  the stupid deserve to be exploited.  Someone will eventually exploit them one way or another anyway.

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Point is, he is saying it is not a religion because it is a business, and because it is full of celebs.  Yet I show you the Catholic church has WAY more money and WAY more celebs then scientology, but it is somehow invalidated.  I don't get it.  I think they are nutjobs, but I think the same about every religion.  Some just take it further than others.

So, since we can see the Catholic church is a bigger fraud than scientology, why does nobody bash the catholic church?

I can't believe you don't get the difference.  Scientology followers are all nutjobs and while you are right that the Vatican is a real business, most Christians are peaceful people who aren't making a business out of Christianity.  That's the difference.

No I think you are missing the point.

You guys jump on people for bashing a religion, yet bash a religion.  Oh but it is ok because you do not think it is a religion.  Interesting to say the least.

usmarine wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Point is, he is saying it is not a religion because it is a business, and because it is full of celebs.  Yet I show you the Catholic church has WAY more money and WAY more celebs then scientology, but it is somehow invalidated.  I don't get it.  I think they are nutjobs, but I think the same about every religion.  Some just take it further than others.

So, since we can see the Catholic church is a bigger fraud than scientology, why does nobody bash the catholic church?

I can't believe you don't get the difference.  Scientology followers are all nutjobs and while you are right that the Vatican is a real business, most Christians are peaceful people who aren't making a business out of Christianity.  That's the difference.

No I think you are missing the point.

You guys jump on people for bashing a religion, yet bash a religion.  Oh but it is ok because you do not think it is a religion.  Interesting to say the least.

You guys = ?

You are constantly bashing Islam, an Abrahamic Religion with 1.5 billion followers.  I don't bash Christianity or Judaism, I bash Scientology, which is a ridiculous cult for rich people.  I condemn radical Islam, I respect moderate Muslims.  You don't.

usmarine wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

You guys = ?

You are constantly bashing Islam, an Abrahamic Religion with 1.5 billion followers.  I don't bash Christianity or Judaism, I bash Scientology, which is a ridiculous cult for rich people.  I condemn radical Islam, I respect moderate Muslims.  You don't.

oh so now it comes down to how many followers there are?  or wealth?

get real serge.  If video and the internet and everything else had been around when Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, etc were started, you would be saying the same thing.

And I am sure those religions were started by the poor people.....lulz.

I'm not asking you to follow a Religion, I don't follow one myself.  I just think you can't generalize about Muslims like you do, and not because they are 1/4 of the World, but because they have a set of beliefs and whether you agree with them or not you must respect them.  You can bash radicals all you want.  You can't bash any Religion just coz you are an atheist.  And what if the three Abrahamic Religions weren't started by poor people.  You can't compare them to Scientology.  Get real yourself.  What set of beliefs does the Scientologists have?  1-Let's say we are a Religion.  2-Let's evade taxes.  3-Let's get richer.