BF2S Forums Report: Sharia Courts Already Operating in England

CameronPoe wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

The fact that the laws of Great Britain arent being respected and PURPOSELY being usurped is absolutely shameful, degrading, and unacceptable! 

These politicians and citizens of Britain as a whole need to take their country back ASAP!! In my opinion the country is already lost. . .

I have always joked, but my notion of the new title "The Islamic Republic of Great Britain" doesnt seem too far off. . . . .

Pathetic absolutely pathetic. . . .  Liberalism/appeasement run a muck . . . . .

lol. Nothing contravening British law is happening.

CameronPoe wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

What are you talking about??

THE MUSLIMS are trying people in Sharia law courts and handling community business in the community. They have no intentions of including British officials in the preceedings. . . .  I have read articles about muslim communities dotted all over England doing this type of shit!  They dont respect Britain they dont respect its laws and are proceeding forward with whatever the hell they want to do!

Its complete liberal appeasement run a muck like I said before! Its going to really bite the Brits in the ass. . . .  Its communities are already suffering from people who dont even consider themselves British!! Its a very similar situation here in the USA regarding illegal immigration and its dire consequences on our country and culture.  Here is an article TODAY regarding this travesty http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 … tudy_N.htm

If they were EVER found to be contravening the law of the land they would be tried and incarcerated. The decisions they make are largely meaningless: it's not like they can legally marry or divorce people - their decisions have no legal impact (nobody can qualify for married couple taxation conditions on the basis of one of these play-pretend court decisions for instance).

fadedsteve wrote:

The question is WILL THEY BE EVER FOUND??? These communities are so secretive that they do this type of shit COMPLETELY behind closed doors and the results are absolute.  Unless the Brits go into these communities and find these illegal "legal" establishments, business will go on as usual!!

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-02-11 15:17:57)

CameronPoe wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

The question is WILL THEY BE EVER FOUND??? These communities are so secretive that they do this type of shit COMPLETELY behind closed doors and the results are absolute.  Unless the Brits go into these communities and find these illegal "legal" establishments, business will go on as usual!!

Well there are enough newspapers and TV stations watching their activities uber-closely to out them in a flash. The number of documentaries of hidden cameras inside mosques are at sky high proportions...

FatherTed wrote:

This is a general statement:

To everyone outside of GB:

You may read Fox, MSNBC, Sky etc, and think there is a radical muslim problem.

Real life however, is more accurate than the aforementioned news (lol) services.

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Considering what some have posted here concerning Muslims that immigrate to the First World to escape Sharia Law, I'm gonna have to side with the "don't fucking allow these courts" camp.

Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't think people here realize the problem with Sharia courts. Some of you guys even try to compare Sharia courts with existing Jewish courts....it is not even close. I don't hear the local Jewish people hoping that their courts don't exist. What I do hear from Muslims in my family and friends is that they do not want Sharia courts to follow them here to America or anywhere else. Why? What is the difference?

The difference is that Sharia courts are basically lead and run by a "fascist" cleric. What I mean is that one man (the cleric) interprets the Koran, one man decides what is right and wrong and one man determines the punishment. Sharia law is so different from region to region, Sharia law takes many, many, many forms and it always rests on the shoulders of one cleric to decide for you. That is the problem. Muslims who live abroad have no idea how they will be affected by a new Sharia court. They don't know if they will be able to practice Islam the way the wish to, like they can in America. They don't know if they will be able to wear the clothes they want to or even continue driving a car!!!!! You see, a cleric can set ground rules and those rules could be enforced on people, whether the British/ American or whatever government knows about it or not. One moment you can be shopping in a western mall without your outfit, or scarf and if someone saw you, you get reported and the next thing you know, you are in front of a Sharia Court defending your freedom in a foreign country that allows you to practice your religion freely. These Sharia courts don't just handle divorce and civil issues...THEY TRY TO ENFORCE HOW YOU PRACTICE ISLAM....Do you understand the difference now!

Also, once these rules are in place and you break them, you can be punished. Now think about the punishment Muslim women get right now for violations that most of the western world would be considered minor. You see, once these courts take hold, the power that this one cleric holds will not stay dormant, it will try to reach out and enforce its rule, radical or not (depending on the cleric). Now this is why most Muslims living abroad do not want these courts. Now, if this type of thing was happening among Jewish or any other "religious" courts...I would have the same problem, but its just not the same. Jewish communities are not against their courts, Muslim communities are against theirs.....now tell me..why is that? If regular Muslims are saying they don't want them...then there must be a very valid reason why they don't. Or do we not listen to them as well!

FEOS wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

This is a general statement:

To everyone outside of GB:

You may read Fox, MSNBC, Sky etc, and think there is a radical muslim problem.

Real life however, is more accurate than the aforementioned news (lol) services.

Well at least now you guys understand how the US members of this forum feel.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Jahmanred wrote:

And a Jewish person has never been involved in an act of terrorism? Very obvious that.

I'm aware of jewish terrorism, good list BTW, and I am fully in sympathy with the Palestinians. Israel was basically founded on terrorism and continues it now.
However its islamic terrorism which is in the limelight at present so that's what is in peoples minds when there is talk of sharia courts.

Dilbert_X wrote:

I guess the jews don't chop heads off people, force girls to marry their cousins, blow people up or fly aeroplanes into buildings
Not that I like to generalise about people, just stating the obvious.

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

DeathBecomesYu wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Considering what some have posted here concerning Muslims that immigrate to the First World to escape Sharia Law, I'm gonna have to side with the "don't fucking allow these courts" camp.

Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't think people here realize the problem with Sharia courts. Some of you guys even try to compare Sharia courts with existing Jewish courts....it is not even close. I don't hear the local Jewish people hoping that their courts don't exist. What I do hear from Muslims in my family and friends is that they do not want Sharia courts to follow them here to America or anywhere else. Why? What is the difference?

The difference is that Sharia courts are basically lead and run by a "fascist" cleric. What I mean is that one man (the cleric) interprets the Koran, one man decides what is right and wrong and one man determines the punishment. Sharia law is so different from region to region, Sharia law takes many, many, many forms and it always rests on the shoulders of one cleric to decide for you. That is the problem. Muslims who live abroad have no idea how they will be affected by a new Sharia court. They don't know if they will be able to practice Islam the way the wish to, like they can in America. They don't know if they will be able to wear the clothes they want to or even continue driving a car!!!!! You see, a cleric can set ground rules and those rules could be enforced on people, whether the British/ American or whatever government knows about it or not. One moment you can be shopping in a western mall without your outfit, or scarf and if someone saw you, you get reported and the next thing you know, you are in front of a Sharia Court defending your freedom in a foreign country that allows you to practice your religion freely. These Sharia courts don't just handle divorce and civil issues...THEY TRY TO ENFORCE HOW YOU PRACTICE ISLAM....Do you understand the difference now!

Also, once these rules are in place and you break them, you can be punished. Now think about the punishment Muslim women get right now for violations that most of the western world would be considered minor. You see, once these courts take hold, the power that this one cleric holds will not stay dormant, it will try to reach out and enforce its rule, radical or not (depending on the cleric). Now this is why most Muslims living abroad do not want these courts. Now, if this type of thing was happening among Jewish or any other "religious" courts...I would have the same problem, but its just not the same. Jewish communities are not against their courts, Muslim communities are against theirs.....now tell me..why is that? If regular Muslims are saying they don't want them...then there must be a very valid reason why they don't. Or do we not listen to them as well!

I would like to believe you... but cam and co say there aren't any issues over in the UK concerning Islam...

also... I hope you are free to practice the religion of your choice(Islam or whatever) without having to live by someones interpretation of Sharia law...

lowing wrote:

yup......Cam and his groupies have said all is well.....................sooooooooo you are hereby labeled:

as paranoid
as generalizing
a racist
ignorant
a hate monger
a bigot

and of course last but certainly not least...................................a nazi.........

stingray, catbox, david p. fededsteve, scootch over let the man sit........ welcome to the club

JahManRed wrote:

You people are on the outside looking in. Comment on UK US foreign policies and going on in the wider world were we are all observing on a level playing field. We level headed individuals make up our own opinion about our own country, we refuse to take what the right or left wing media says as gospel, never mind people who have probably never set foot on UK US soil.

fadedsteve wrote:

The BOTTOM LINE. . . .

Europe has a major problem regarding muslims and their allegiance to their "new" nations that they live in. . . . This isnt speculation, this isnt paranoia, this isnt racial insensitivity, THIS IS FACT!!!

The MAJORITY (not all) dont like the west and its way it goes about life and business, culture etc.!! Britain, France, Germany, Holland etc. have MAJOR muslim allegiance issues that shine through on a daily basis.  There have been polls/studies done that show that the influx of immigrants DONT want to be thought of as "British" or "German" or "French". . . .  They associate themselves with their former nation and their relgion THATS IT! Thats a problem any way you slice it. . . . .

You Euro's who give them the benefit of the doubt and appease/sympathize with them are only kidding yourselves. . . . . The majority of the muslims dont want to be your friends nor do they want to see the advancement of western society.  The only thing the muslims like in their "new" nations is  A. your money  and  B. the perks of living in a socialized culture where tons of shit is free to immigrants!!!  IN ESSESENCE YOUR GETTING TAKIN' ADVANTAGE OF!! Its only a matter of time till more European cities get bombed and or their laws usurped to fit muslims and their perverted sense of society and culture. . . .