BF2S Forums Media Conspiracy against Ron Paul.

Last edited by topal63 (2008-01-30 21:00:14)

Phrozenbot wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

president doesnt have the power to overhaul anything.  another thing about ron paul I dont like, I dont agree with his interpretation of the constituion.  I dont get my opinions from fox or cnn.  The only time I watch those stations is when I wanna get pissed off.  I follow Tim Russert/Keith Oberman/Jim Lehrer/Chris Mathews.

I can only side with Olberman there.

We keep on the course set and soon the President can do whatever he/she wants. But your right. He can't overhaul anything. But I'd love to see him try. No one else has the balls. They won't even talk about issues. Guess what Chuck Norris said McCain was old. HOLY SHIT!

But when Ron Paul reminds you we're in trillion dollar debt and reminds you the economy is shit for the middle class, eh.....those other guys on stage aren't looking so good. Obama and Clinton are gonna give away free healthcare. Just peoplel in my tax bracket have to pay for it. Cool.

He can veto any bill with pork on it. That is a start.

mtb0minime wrote:

I love that CNN one where they said that "online resources" said he was a "flake". Someone Googled it and the only thing they came up with were links to stories of CNN calling Ron Paul a flake.


I seriously don't understand why the media shuns him. Is it because he's able to raise so much money without their help? Or he just isn't a typical Rep/Dem douchebag?

Kmarion wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

You can always count on topal63 for a well thought out response (well almost ).

Ron Paul has been on Jay Leno, Glenn Beck (Full hour), Lou Dobbs, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Tucker Carlson, CNBC, Bill Maher, Wolf Blitzer, Newsweek, John Roberts ..     just skimming the top.

You can't compare K. I've seen Rudy on tv everyday. Clips of him Mittens McCain Obama Hillary Huck  Thompson. Everyday. Even when Rudy was beat by Paul in Iowa. When Thompson was beat by Paul in New Hampshire. When Paul beat everyone except Romney in Nevada. Not a peep.

Can't compare. List all the youtube's you want.

There is a Mainstream Media conspiracy. here is proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEtiLPA0zuE

Tell me why Fox edited that response out of its west coast replay?

As crazy as he may sound/be, he isn't getting a fair shot by the media. But if he wins alot of people will lose money. the kind of people that own tv stations as a hobby.

First off I don't think using Fox as the "norm" is smart. Fox news bias is not exactly late breaking news. All of those youtube clips were clips of mainstream NETWORK shows. Show like Jay Leno get a ton of viewers. The media always follows the front runners. This paranoia some of the Ron Paul supporters have is just desperation. He has had time on every single news outlet. He has got more coverage than most candidates who trail this far behind. He is no where near the frontrunner's. The media cares about one thing, ratings. The audience decides the programming. Unfortunately for Paul supporters viewers want to watch coverage of a candidate who might actually win. This need to pass off Ron Paul's losing streak on the idea of a great conspiracy is just weak.

You are the picture perfect example of someone who pretends to be skeptical but in reality doesn't care to listen. Remarks like " List all the youtube's you want." just tells me that you have an idea in your head and you have no desire to consider anything else. I true skeptic will ask to be convinced, they like the challenge. You have just turned you brain off. Your man is failing so the only answer is media conspiracy.

Last edited by Mason4Assassin444 (2008-01-30 21:17:30)

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Phrozenbot wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

I can only side with Olberman there.

We keep on the course set and soon the President can do whatever he/she wants. But your right. He can't overhaul anything. But I'd love to see him try. No one else has the balls. They won't even talk about issues. Guess what Chuck Norris said McCain was old. HOLY SHIT!

But when Ron Paul reminds you we're in trillion dollar debt and reminds you the economy is shit for the middle class, eh.....those other guys on stage aren't looking so good. Obama and Clinton are gonna give away free healthcare. Just peoplel in my tax bracket have to pay for it. Cool.

He can veto any bill with pork on it. That is a start.

there will be much less if he is no longer in congress by then.

Jesus Christ, the man is PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!!

Kmarion wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

You can always count on topal63 for a well thought out response (well almost ).

Ron Paul has been on Jay Leno, Glenn Beck (Full hour), Lou Dobbs, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Tucker Carlson, CNBC, Bill Maher, Wolf Blitzer, Newsweek, John Roberts ..     just skimming the top.

You can't compare K. I've seen Rudy on tv everyday. Clips of him Mittens McCain Obama Hillary Huck  Thompson. Everyday. Even when Rudy was beat by Paul in Iowa. When Thompson was beat by Paul in New Hampshire. When Paul beat everyone except Romney in Nevada. Not a peep.

Can't compare. List all the youtube's you want.

There is a Mainstream Media conspiracy. here is proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEtiLPA0zuE

Tell me why Fox edited that response out of its west coast replay?

As crazy as he may sound/be, he isn't getting a fair shot by the media. But if he wins alot of people will lose money. the kind of people that own tv stations as a hobby.

First off I don't think using Fox as the "norm" is smart. Fox news bias is not exactly late breaking news. All of those youtube clips were clips of mainstream NETWORK shows. Show like Jay Leno get a ton of viewers. The media always follows the front runners. This paranoia some of the Ron Paul supporters have is just desperation. He has had time on every single news outlet. He has got more coverage than most candidates who trail this far behind. He is no where near the frontrunner's. The media cares about one thing, ratings. The audience decides the programming. Unfortunately for Paul supporters viewers want to watch coverage of a candidate who might actually win. This need to pass off Ron Paul's losing streak on the idea of a great conspiracy is just weak.

You are the picture perfect example of someone who pretends to be skeptical but in reality doesn't care to listen. Remarks like " List all the youtube's you want." just tells me that you have an idea in your head and you have no desire to consider anything else. I true skeptic will ask to be convinced, they like the challenge. You have just turned you brain off. Your man is failing so the only answer is media conspiracy.

Last edited by Deadmonkiefart (2008-01-30 21:34:13)

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

The mainstream media is ignoring him because they do not repect his views and are too scared to even consider him as a major candidate.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

When he wins two debates and then rarely gets invited to any more, how could you not wonder what is going on?

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

He has much more support than you seem to think.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

First of all, he broke the record for the most money raised in a single day at $6 million dollars.  I did not hear about it from the mainstream news even once, and my television is turned on the news all day.  It should have been a huge deal.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

The mainstream media is ignoring him because they do not repect his views and are too scared to even consider him as a major candidate.

They are not ignoring him. The only thing being ignored here is all the examples I gave of him not being ignored.
 

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

When he wins two debates and then rarely gets invited to any more, how could you not wonder what is going on?

Says who? Do you know the point of a Presidential debate?

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

He has much more support than you seem to think.

Ron Paul get most of his support from the internet.. For one reason or another, the kind of people who have time to putz around on the internet (college-age kids, etc.) really like Ron Paul. This is a small minority of America. Most American voters don't spend their lives on the internet daily and certainly don't care to find a poll and vote on it.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

First of all, he broke the record for the most money raised in a single day at $6 million dollars.  I did not hear about it from the mainstream news even once, and my television is turned on the news all day.  It should have been a huge deal.

He broke the record because it was a coordinated effort to time his donations on one day. It was a marketing ploy and is no way indicative of how people will vote.

But since you mentioned it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politics … 6120071217
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21646939/
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/18/ … index.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/ … 0971.shtml
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id … _article=1
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar … ops-m.html
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071217/D8TJ04TG0.html

Reuters, AP, CNN, CBS, Breitbart, ABC, NBC ... mainstream enough?

I don't care if they wrote some whimpy paragraph and put it on their site.  Television time is what counts.  You were the one who said "Most American voters don't spend their lives on the internet daily".

Kmarion wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

The mainstream media is ignoring him because they do not repect his views and are too scared to even consider him as a major candidate.

They are not ignoring him. The only thing being ignored here is all the examples I gave of him not being ignored.
 

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

When he wins two debates and then rarely gets invited to any more, how could you not wonder what is going on?

Says who? Do you know the point of a Presidential debate?

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

He has much more support than you seem to think.

Ron Paul get most of his support from the internet.. For one reason or another, the kind of people who have time to putz around on the internet (college-age kids, etc.) really like Ron Paul. This is a small minority of America. Most American voters don't spend their lives on the internet daily and certainly don't care to find a poll and vote on it.
He broke the record because it was a coordinated effort to time his donations on one day. It was a marketing ploy and is no way indicative of how people will vote.

But since you mentioned it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politics … 6120071217
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21646939/
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/18/ … index.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/ … 0971.shtml
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id … _article=1
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar … ops-m.html
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071217/D8TJ04TG0.html

Reuters, AP, CNN, CBS, Breitbart, ABC, NBC ... mainstream enough?

I don't care if they wrote some whimpy paragraph and put it on their site.  Television time is what counts.  You were the one who said "Most American voters don't spend their lives on the internet daily".

The first time I posted video clips to illustrate my point (the stuff that aired on national television). Next I posted links to stories. Another "I don't care about" evidence Ron Paul supporter.