Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6875|132 and Bush

...........................https://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5431/challengershuttledisast.jpg
January 28, 1986.
Shuttle mission 51L was much like most other missions. The Challenger was scheduled to carry some cargo, the Tracking Data Relay Satellite-2 (TDRS-2), as well as fly the Shuttle-Pointed Tool for Astronomy (SPARTAN-203)/Halley’s Comet Experiment Deployable, a free-flying module designed to observe tail and coma of Halleys comet with two ultraviolet spectrometers and two cameras.

One thing made this mission unique. It was scheduled to be the first flight of a new program called TISP, the Teacher In Space Program. The Challenger was scheduled to carry Sharon Christa McAuliffe, the first teacher to fly in space.

Selected from among more than 11,000 applicants from the education profession for entrance into the astronaut ranks, McAuliffe was very excited about the opportunity to participate in the space program. “I watched the Space Age being born and I would like to participate.”

Besides McAuliffe, the Challenger crew consisted of mission commander Francis R. Scobee; pilot Michael J. Smith; mission specialists Ronald E. McNair, Ellison S. Onizuka, and Judith A. Resnik; and payload specialists Gregory B. Jarvis. Christa was also listed as a payload specialist.

From the beginning, though, Shuttle Mission STS-51L was plagued by problems. Liftoff was initally scheduled from at 3:43 p.m. EST on January 22, 1986. It slipped to Jan. 23, then Jan. 24, due to delays in mission 61-C and finally reset for Jan. 25 because of bad weather at transoceanic abort landing (TAL) site in Dakar, Senegal. The launch was again postponed for one day when launch processing was unable to meet new morning liftoff time. Predicted bad weather at Kennedy Space Center (KSC) caused the launch to be rescheduled for 9:37 a.m. EST, Jan. 27, but it was delayed another 24 hours when ground servicing equipment hatch closing fixture could not be removed from orbiter hatch.

The fixture was sawed off and an attaching bolt drilled out before closeout completed. During this delay, the cross winds exceeded limits at KSC’s Shuttle Landing Facility. There as a final delay of two hours when a hardware interface module in the launch processing system, which monitors fire detection system, failed during liquid hydrogen tanking procedures. The Challenger finally lifted off at 11:38:00 a.m. EST.

https://i26.tinypic.com/30wazoi.jpg
Seventy three seconds into the mission, the Challenger exploded, killing the entire crew.
https://i31.tinypic.com/30rqo9f.gif


These days we take space flight for granted. It’s just part of the background of our era. The Challenger disaster, and the disaster that would strike Columbia on her next mission after STS-107 on February 1 2003, ought to remind us that above all the science and technology, it takes the courage of intrepid men and women to keep us in space and reaching for the stars.
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usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7036

Kmarion wrote:

I was in elementary school (Fourth grade I think).
Ditto.  Watching it on those POS tv's.
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7084|Nårvei

Was 16 and watched it blow up on the Norwegian news the same evening ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
~{TPP}~richoxon
I Want a New Duck
+43|6841|Up a tree
I remember it happening, but i don't have any memories of it at the time. I must have been at school as i was only 15
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6792|USA
Momma's belly.  i did make a pretty sweet video about the 80's for school a while back and featured a half a minute or so on the Challenger.

lesson NASA learned: don't sample on the dependent variable when making decisions.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6875|132 and Bush

Most of the forum members probably weren't even alive now that I think about it. It was 22 years ago.
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mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6929

I was still a little sperm, waiting to make the journey to my mom's egg just a few months later.


Also, I'm taking a required Engineering Ethics course right now, and the professor mentioned something about how nowadays in the business world, the engineers are on the lower-end while the uneducated management guys have higher authority. Engineers tell them not to launch, but the management team is more concerned with the business aspect and not so much the safety and ethics... and here's an example of what can happen. (I forget exactly which mission he was talking about, though, but it was definitely either Challenger or Columbia).

Last edited by mtb0minime (2008-01-28 10:39:31)

~{TPP}~richoxon
I Want a New Duck
+43|6841|Up a tree
change it to the twin towers
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6875|132 and Bush

~{TPP}~richoxon wrote:

change it to the twin towers
I would if it wasn't the anniversary.
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Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7084|Nårvei

~{TPP}~richoxon wrote:

change it to the twin towers
Wrong date
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
~{TPP}~richoxon
I Want a New Duck
+43|6841|Up a tree
didnt put 2+2 together... my bad
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6990
I was supposed to be on that shuttle... pulled a hamstring and was replaced at the last minute... it still haunts me...


I do remember it... everyone was hoping that the people somehow survived... it was surreal with the school teachers students watching the launch...   I was 20 at the time... old...lol
Love is the answer
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7010|Salt Lake City

I was a junior in high school.  I was in science class when they wheeled the TV in on the cart and turned on the news.
commandochristian
Honda - The Power of Dreams
+293|6687|Michigan, USA

Do I remember where I was on January 28, 1986?  Yep, I was nonexistent! (born in July of 1987).  I remember where I was on the days of the Columbia accident and 9/11 though.
Roomba
You will pay the price for your lack of vision.
+26|6766|Land of Cotton
I was thirteen and in 8th grade. I remember being between classes and photocopying something in the library. I know the TV's were on but  I did not see it live. I saw one of the first replays. While I had no attachment, it did leave me with an odd since of disbelief. I found out 20 years later that they died on impact not from the explosion. That haunted me more that anything. I can't believe it has been 22 years.
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6959|Espoo, Finland
ETA 2 years.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6875|132 and Bush

Roomba wrote:

I found out 20 years later that they died on impact not from the explosion. That haunted me more that anything. I can't believe it has been 22 years.
NASA Headquarters

Code M

Washington, DC 20546

Dear Admiral Truly:

The search for wreckage of the Challenger crew cabin has been completed. A team of engineers and scientists has analyzed the wreckage and all other available evidence in an attempt to determine the cause of death of the Challenger crew. This letter is to report to you on the results of this effort. The findings are inconclusive. The impact of the crew compartment with the ocean surface was so violent that evidence of damage occurring in the seconds which followed the explosion was masked. Our final conclusions are:

    * the cause of death of the Challenger astronauts cannot be positively determined;
    * the forces to which the crew were exposed during Orbiter breakup were probably not sufficient to cause death or serious injury; and
    * the crew possibly, but not certainly, lost consciousness in the seconds following Orbiter breakup due to in-flight loss of crew module pressure.

Our inspection and analyses revealed certain facts which support the above conclusions, and these are related below: The forces on the Orbiter at breakup were probably too low to cause death or serious injury to the crew but were sufficient to separate the crew compartment from the forward fuselage, cargo bay, nose cone, and forward reaction control compartment. The forces applied to the Orbiter to cause such destruction clearly exceed its design limits. The data available to estimate the magnitude and direction of these forces included ground photographs and measurements from onboard accelerometers, which were lost two-tenths of a second after vehicle breakup.

Two independent assessments of these data produced very similar estimates. The largest acceleration pulse occurred as the Orbiter forward fuselage separated and was rapidly pushed away from the external tank. It then pitched nose-down and was decelerated rapidly by aerodynamic forces. There are uncertainties in our analysis; the actual breakup is not visible on photographs because the Orbiter was hidden by the gaseous cloud surrounding the external tank. The range of most probable maximum accelerations is from 12 to 20 G's in the vertical axis. These accelerations were quite brief. In two seconds, they were below four G's; in less than ten seconds, the crew compartment was essentially in free fall. Medical analysis indicates that these accelerations are survivable, and that the probability of major injury to crew members is low.
http://history.nasa.gov/kerwin.html
It seems they lost consciousness at least.
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liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6901|UK

Kmarion wrote:

Most of the forum members probably weren't even alive now that I think about it. It was 22 years ago.
Yeah, I was -4. Though I have seen a couple of documentaries on it, sad stuff.
Lieutenant_Jensen
Your cops are corrupt.
+200|6665|fåking denmark
I wasn't born.
justice
OctoPoster
+978|7015|OctoLand
Was 1 year old, cant remeber anything...I have a clearer memory of when I was 4 or 5 and saw the pictures of what had happened.
I know fucking karate
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6803|Global Command
I was eating breakfast, listening to the launch.

It lifted and they went to commercial. Then it stopped halfway through. Ten seconds of silence and then the announcer began describing the scene, barely able to hold himself together.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6719|The Land of Scott Walker
I was sitting at the kitchen table watching the liftoff with my mom on our little tv.  6 years old and I was home from school for some reason.
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|7103|Grapevine, TX

usmarine2005 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I was in elementary school (Fourth grade I think).
Ditto.  Watching it on those POS tv's.
Wow, I was in 4ht or 5th, too. I remember sitting Indian style with all 3 classes packed with kids watching it.

When the explosion happened, I remember looking around, and we we're all like what just happened? The teachers quickly turned off the TV and we all went back to class...
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6765|Northern California
I was on the phone with my dad who was in southern CA, and he had called home to let the rest of the family know our dobe "Junior" just finished a match and got his last 2 points making him a champion.  It was my birthday the next day so my dad let me share the news with everyone..then that damned space ship blew up..ruined everything.

Last edited by IRONCHEF (2008-01-28 11:58:48)

jsnipy
...
+3,277|6797|...

I was in school, 13 years old

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