So much for Spain's appeasement of anti-islamic activity

2008-01-26 05:58:34

#1

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6935|USA

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_ … _arrests_5

Apparently anti-islamic terrorists were not appeased enough by Spain's election decisions. Those crazy anti-muslims were STILL gunna blow shit up in Spain. Evidence that appeasement does not, will not, work. I wonder what else Spain can do to appease these guys. Given their track record, and European peace at all cost mentality, I am sure they will come up with something.

Last edited by lowing (2008-01-26 08:01:17)

2008-01-26 07:12:28

#2

David.P: Banned; +649|6558

lol wut

2008-01-26 07:15:27

#3

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6729|The Land of Scott Walker

Guess the supporters of appeasement have nothing to say.

2008-01-26 07:20:40

#4

Ajax_the_Great1: Dropped on request; +206|6930

I don't get what you are getting at.

2008-01-26 07:22:01

#5

andy12: Banned; +52|6941

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
I don't get what you are getting at.

I don't, making a point anytime soon? Put it simply then I don't have to read into undertones and whatever.

2008-01-26 07:26:45

#6

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6935|USA

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
I don't get what you are getting at.

what needs clarification? A few years ago Spains elections were directly influenced by Islamic terrorism, ( sorry anti-islamic activity) trying to buy peace with radical islam. Now it seems that all of that does not matter. These terrorists were still planning on blowing up shit in Spain. I wonder why? As such Spains appeasement did not work.

I hope that clarifies it.

2008-01-26 07:37:51

#7

Ajax_the_Great1: Dropped on request; +206|6930

lowing wrote:
Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
I don't get what you are getting at.
what needs clarification? A few years ago Spains elections were directly influenced by Islamic terrorism, ( sorry anti-islamic activity) trying to buy peace with radical islam. Now it seems that all of that does not matter. These terrorists were still planning on blowing up shit in Spain. I wonder why? As such Spains appeasement did not work.

I hope that clarifies it.

I guess I don't pay enough attention to Spain.

Radicals will be radicals I suppose.

2008-01-26 08:32:20

#8

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7094|Nårvei

lowing wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_ … _arrests_5

Apparently anti-islamic terrorists were not appeased enough by Spain's election decisions. Those crazy anti-muslims were STILL gunna blow shit up in Spain. Evidence that appeasement does not, will not, work. I wonder what else Spain can do to appease these guys. Given their track record, and European peace at all cost mentality, I am sure they will come up with something.

You call this evidence that appeasement in general doesn't work ?

In that case i can as easily prove to you that the exact opposite doesn't work either, seeing as there have been terrorists bombings in Iraq after the invasion i guess that proves military intervention doesn't solve anything and never will do.

So you are right lowing and i am right ...

And how can you back up your new fact that Europeans have a "peace at all cost mentality" ? ... most Europeans are open for trying a more peaceful approach to a conflict before we bankrupt our continent.

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2008-01-26 08:36:04

#9

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6905|London, England

They always have a purpose. What was the purpose of these guys to bomb Spain? What's Spain doing wrong now (don't give me that un-Islamic lifestyle BS, unless it really is that. Then I will just lol - no amount of bombings will stop people living their normal lives, well not in Europe or the UK at least)

2008-01-26 08:37:24

#10

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6813|Global Command

andy12 wrote:
Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
I don't get what you are getting at.
I don't, making a point anytime soon? Put it simply then I don't have to read into undertones and whatever.

May I suggest staying out of DST until your reading comprehension skills are up to par?
What he said was not complex in the slightest.

2008-01-26 08:41:36

#11

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6935|USA

Varegg wrote:
lowing wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_ … _arrests_5

Apparently anti-islamic terrorists were not appeased enough by Spain's election decisions. Those crazy anti-muslims were STILL gunna blow shit up in Spain. Evidence that appeasement does not, will not, work. I wonder what else Spain can do to appease these guys. Given their track record, and European peace at all cost mentality, I am sure they will come up with something.
You call this evidence that appeasement in general doesn't work ?

In that case i can as easily prove to you that the exact opposite doesn't work either, seeing as there have been terrorists bombings in Iraq after the invasion i guess that proves military intervention doesn't solve anything and never will do.

So you are right lowing and i am right ...

And how can you back up your new fact that Europeans have a "peace at all cost mentality" ? ... most Europeans are open for trying a more peaceful approach to a conflict before we bankrupt our continent.

You are correct, military responses are not doing much to curb terrorism either. I simply would rather die in defiance of it, than kneel to it and make it easier for them to kill me anyway. Spain proves this, peace at any price, even succumbing to it, to no avail.

Last edited by lowing (2008-01-26 08:44:01)

2008-01-26 08:42:59

#12

andy12: Banned; +52|6941

ATG wrote:
andy12 wrote:
Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
I don't get what you are getting at.
I don't, making a point anytime soon? Put it simply then I don't have to read into undertones and whatever.
May I suggest staying out of DST until your reading comprehension skills are up to par?
What he said was not complex in the slightest.

Oh. Okay...

Fair enough.

2008-01-26 08:43:40

#13

adam1503: Member; +85|6672|Manchester, UK

When were Spanish elections influenced by terrorist demands? Can you quote a source for me?

2008-01-26 08:47:35

#14

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7094|Nårvei

That is the point lowing and one never knows what will work or not - i also think Spain was cowardice for pulling out alone when they had comitted themselves but i understand why they did it, partially for election reasons witch i think was utterly dispicable and partially from the pressure of the Spanish population that really doesn't wan't to be bullied by both local and global terror in the degree you can call bask separatists local terror.

Pulling out was wrong and appeaselike, they should not have comitted themself to such a venture in the first place imho ...

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2008-01-26 08:48:52

#15

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6928

adam1503 wrote:
When were Spanish elections influenced by terrorist demands? Can you quote a source for me?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, … 2,00.html?

"This is why, callous as it may sound, the greatest disaster in Spain this month was not the Madrid bombing, tragic though that was for the victims and their families. It was the election. The Spanish voters’ decision to reward al-Qaeda (or who-ever was behind the attack) with the swiftest and most dramatic change of foreign policy in modern Euro-pean history, has transformed the arithmetic of terrorism. It used to be seen as a futile, nihilist lashing out against established order."

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2008-01-26 08:50:28

#16

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6905|London, England

What I think. If they attack Spain and actually pull the plan off. Imo, they should (re?)join the rest of NATO in Afghanistan as a show that if the extremists break the deal, so will Spain return to duty. I don't think the Spanish population would argue with that.

It was a deal wasn't it, pull out and we'll stop attacking. If they attack again than they should go back into Afghanistan (of course it wouldn't stop it, but it would give out a message)

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2008-01-26 08:51:50

#17

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6935|USA

adam1503 wrote:
When were Spanish elections influenced by terrorist demands? Can you quote a source for me?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar … Oct16.html

Or do your own googling there is plenty of sources

2008-01-26 08:52:24

#18

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6695|'Murka

adam1503 wrote:
When were Spanish elections influenced by terrorist demands? Can you quote a source for me?

March elections a few years back. It was neck and neck between the incumbents (platform included continuing Iraq mission) and the challengers (pulling out of Iraq). Boom on the trains courtesy of Al Aqaida, who claimed it was due to Spain's involvement in the coalition.

A few days later, the challengers won...broadly described as a popular response to the bombings. A couple of months later, no Spaniards in Iraq.

Pretty clear cut.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-01-26 08:55:57

#19

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6935|USA

Varegg wrote:
That is the point lowing and one never knows what will work or not - i also think Spain was cowardice for pulling out alone when they had comitted themselves but i understand why they did it, partially for election reasons witch i think was utterly dispicable and partially from the pressure of the Spanish population that really doesn't wan't to be bullied by both local and global terror in the degree you can call bask separatists local terror.

Pulling out was wrong and appeaselike, they should not have comitted themself to such a venture in the first place imho ...

add to it, the fact that the popular party had a strong lead in the polls before the bombing and yet lost the election. If this does not point to an outside influence, ( anti-islamic activity) I have no idea what does.

2008-01-26 09:29:40

#20

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7094|Nårvei

lowing wrote:
Varegg wrote:
That is the point lowing and one never knows what will work or not - i also think Spain was cowardice for pulling out alone when they had comitted themselves but i understand why they did it, partially for election reasons witch i think was utterly dispicable and partially from the pressure of the Spanish population that really doesn't wan't to be bullied by both local and global terror in the degree you can call bask separatists local terror.

Pulling out was wrong and appeaselike, they should not have comitted themself to such a venture in the first place imho ...
add to it, the fact that the popular party had a strong lead in the polls before the bombing and yet lost the election. If this does not point to an outside influence, ( anti-islamic activity) I have no idea what does.

The global uncertainty with radical islam as a main contributor must have had something to do with it, atleast that is my firm opinion - what this really shows is how the people have the power to change things through voting, what happend in the Spanish election is proof that democracy works ...

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2008-01-26 09:30:30

#21

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6928

Varegg wrote:
lowing wrote:
Varegg wrote:
That is the point lowing and one never knows what will work or not - i also think Spain was cowardice for pulling out alone when they had comitted themselves but i understand why they did it, partially for election reasons witch i think was utterly dispicable and partially from the pressure of the Spanish population that really doesn't wan't to be bullied by both local and global terror in the degree you can call bask separatists local terror.

Pulling out was wrong and appeaselike, they should not have comitted themself to such a venture in the first place imho ...
add to it, the fact that the popular party had a strong lead in the polls before the bombing and yet lost the election. If this does not point to an outside influence, ( anti-islamic activity) I have no idea what does.
The global uncertainty with radical islam as a main contributor must have had something to do with it, atleast that is my firm opinion - what this really shows is how the people have the power to change things through voting, what happend in the Spanish election is proof that democracy works ...

and so does terrorism.

2008-01-26 09:34:39

#22

IG-Calibre: comhalta; +226|7026|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

It's an interesting story, and of course for all we know the "tip off" that the Spanish Authorities received may have come from within the Islamic community..

2008-01-26 10:38:21

#23

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7041|Argentina

Lowing knows four words only, liberal, appeasement, responsibility and Muslim.

2008-01-26 10:47:13

#24

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7046

adam1503 wrote:
When were Spanish elections influenced by terrorist demands? Can you quote a source for me?

Are you kidding?

2008-01-26 10:48:57

#25

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7046

sergeriver wrote:
Lowing knows four words only, liberal, appeasement, responsibility and Muslim.

And what does that have to do with the article? Seems you only know one word...

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2008-01-26 10:49:24)

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