Is it rape?

2008-01-18 09:37:20

#26

Marlboroman82: Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.; +1,022|6625|Camp XRay

Uzique wrote:
jord wrote:
If you start having consensual sex and then She wants stop but you carry on?

Not for me, for my friend...
I'm a law undergraduate, so here's your officially-correct answer : P.

In the UK, sexual intercourse in rape is treated as a 'continuing act', so that there can be liability for what might have appeared to be an omission (legal term for 'failure to act'). As decided by the doctrine of judicial precedence (earlier cases make the law for all later examples), the Privy Council has ruled previously that if a victim consented to penetration, but after penetrated they ceased to give their consent (in other words, the victim wanted to stop), a man would be committing rape if he did not comply and withdraw.

Summary: A definite 'yes', if it can be proven of course!

any good lawyer would rip that to shreds

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2008-01-18 09:37:56

#27

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|6758|Scotland

It's rape. No deduction on the sentence. It's rape.

2008-01-18 09:39:34

#28

{uscm}Jyden: You likey leaky?; +433|6680|In You Endo- Stoke

They always say stop when you hit the poop shoot

2008-01-18 09:44:12

#29

LaidBackNinja: Pony Slaystation; +343|6711|Charlie One Alpha

Looks like "your friend" is a rapist. Congrats on having sex though.

Last edited by LaidBackNinja (2008-01-18 09:48:43)

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2008-01-18 09:52:35

#30

TrollmeaT: Aspiring Objectivist; +492|6674|Colorado

It's rape if she says to stop & you don't, hard to prove if you've been together more than once.

2008-01-18 09:54:29

#31

jord: Member; +2,382|6680|The North, beyond the wall.

LaidBackNinja wrote:
Looks like "your friend" is a rapist. Congrats on having sex though.

Thanks I'll tell him you congratulated him...

2008-01-18 09:58:13

#32

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6472

Marlboroman82 wrote:
Uzique wrote:
jord wrote:
If you start having consensual sex and then She wants stop but you carry on?

Not for me, for my friend...
I'm a law undergraduate, so here's your officially-correct answer : P.

In the UK, sexual intercourse in rape is treated as a 'continuing act', so that there can be liability for what might have appeared to be an omission (legal term for 'failure to act'). As decided by the doctrine of judicial precedence (earlier cases make the law for all later examples), the Privy Council has ruled previously that if a victim consented to penetration, but after penetrated they ceased to give their consent (in other words, the victim wanted to stop), a man would be committing rape if he did not comply and withdraw.

Summary: A definite 'yes', if it can be proven of course!
any good lawyer would rip that to shreds

Any law can be 'ripped to shreds' in a court-room environment, where the adversarial process basically boils down to a battle of witness presentation, clever theatrical dramatics and jury swaying. Besides, lawyers are nothing but egos with an agenda, dressed up in official suits. No law is 'concrete' either-- if a case arises where that precedence will create an absurd result, then our 'Supreme Court' will effectively denounce or digress from the first ruling.

(If I've misinterpreted your post, and you were talking about my explanation of consent & rape, then I do apologize for not trying a little harder to utterly baffle the OP with long esoteric Latin terminologies and references to obscure statutes and cases. Wasn't aware I had to post to impress around here.)

Thanks for the great insight though!

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2008-01-18 09:59:06

#33

adam1503: Member; +85|6390|Manchester, UK

Of course its rape....

But then again only 5% of rape accusations actualy end in a conviction.

2008-01-18 10:00:35

#34

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6132|North Tonawanda, NY

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
yes.

2008-01-18 10:00:52

#35

gene_pool: Banned; +519|6623|Gold coast, Aus.

Why did I laugh at the "Predict the name of your lover now!" ad when the topic is about rape?

2008-01-18 10:01:09

#36

liquidat0r: wtf.; +2,223|6629|UK

jord wrote:
Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:
I would say yes..

If the other part want's to stop, but you cary in, then if you get in court they would probably say it's rape..
But could you not just say you thought it was role-play or you couldn't hear her?

I guess the same could be said about real rape.

2008-01-18 10:01:56

#37

SEREVENT: MASSIVE G STAR; +605|6109|Birmingham, UK

The Sheriff wrote:
Wear earphones, problem solved.

+1, and, also, is that really your X fire?

Anyways, i think it is.

2008-01-18 10:02:17

#38

LaidBackNinja: Pony Slaystation; +343|6711|Charlie One Alpha

liquidat0r wrote:
jord wrote:
Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:
I would say yes..

If the other part want's to stop, but you cary in, then if you get in court they would probably say it's rape..
But could you not just say you thought it was role-play or you couldn't hear her?
I guess the same could be said about real rape.

I prefer to call it "surprise sex".

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2008-01-18 10:03:26

#39

Mitch: 16 more years; +877|6527|South Florida

Ruckel wrote:
not if they cant find her...

L.
M.
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15 more years! 15 more years!

2008-01-18 10:04:12

#40

jord: Member; +2,382|6680|The North, beyond the wall.

liquidat0r wrote:
jord wrote:
Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:
I would say yes..

If the other part want's to stop, but you cary in, then if you get in court they would probably say it's rape..
But could you not just say you thought it was role-play or you couldn't hear her?
I guess the same could be said about real rape.

Main argument is that she already agreed to it. So it applies more to the "Carrying on rape" as opposed to "Real rape".

2008-01-18 10:08:41

#41

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6472

Yes Jord, it doesn't seem as severe as 'real rape' (as in, rape from the word "GO!")- but it is fundamentally the exact same act you're committing. Sex is legal when both parties are consensual (and over the minimum age, of course ). The minute that breaks down or fails, then someone is in the wrong. I'd tell your friend not to worry though... most rape cases never get into court in the first-place (25% of all complainants withdraw their complaint)- and less than 10% of all cases actually make it through to a proper conviction anyway. Proving that she 'changed her mind' halfway through the act would be incredibly hard to prove, unless there was some highly-incriminating physical evidence to suggest so (e.g. bruises, damage etc.)

Last edited by Uzique (2008-01-18 10:09:04)

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2008-01-18 10:10:03

#42

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6645

why would you want to keep going when she says no? that would just make me feel weird and dirty and bad.

2008-01-18 10:11:13

#43

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6447|The Land of Scott Walker

1. This needs to be in D&ST
2. Likely rape in the eyes of the law, though a bit unfair for the woman to say no once things have begun.

2008-01-18 10:11:42

#44

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6520|Montucky

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
why would you want to keep going when she says no? that would just make me feel weird and dirty and bad.

blue balls

2008-01-18 10:11:56

#45

jord: Member; +2,382|6680|The North, beyond the wall.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
why would you want to keep going when she says no? that would just make me feel weird and dirty and bad.

I don't know, maybe it was too good to end that soon?

You gotta agree though, rape porn is one of the better categories...

2008-01-18 10:12:16

#46

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6645

palmela handerson could fix that, better than feeling like a rapist.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2008-01-18 10:14:54)

2008-01-18 10:13:04

#47

jord: Member; +2,382|6680|The North, beyond the wall.

Stingray24 wrote:
1. This needs to be in D&ST
2. Likely rape in the eyes of the law, though a bit unfair for the woman to say no once things have begun.

I don't have the confidence to make a thread in D+ST yet. Would do I look like, someone who's been here for 800 days+?

2008-01-18 10:16:07

#48

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6447|The Land of Scott Walker

Haven't purchased a flamesuit yet?

2008-01-18 10:17:23

#49

jord: Member; +2,382|6680|The North, beyond the wall.

I got one off the market for cheap. It only protects against idiotic general chatter insults. I don't think it could stand a full blown intelligent argument.

2008-01-18 10:18:19

#50

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6520|Montucky

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
palmela handerson could fix that, better than feeling like a rapist.

but then you'd get bitched out for sneaking itno the bathroom and jerking off.

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