usmarine
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"A former congressman and delegate to the United Nations was indicted Wednesday as part of a terrorist fundraising ring that allegedly sent more than $130,000 to an al-Qaida and Taliban supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080116/ap_ … n_indicted


I mean seriously.  This guy should be hanged.
m3thod
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Nice title.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine
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m3thod wrote:

Nice title.
Hey troll.
Mekstizzle
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Probably plenty more of that going on right now.
KEN-JENNINGS
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The former Congressman lobbied the Federal Government on behalf of the IARA to try to get it off the list of terrorist fund raising organizations.  That is not illegal, but perhaps a bad decision.  They probably approached him because of his political ties, seeing as he was a Representative 20 years prior.  He is involved in laundering money and perjury - he did not donate a dime to the Taliban or IARA as far as the article states.

Interesting that you advocate capital punishment for money laundering and perjury...
usmarine
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Interesting that you advocate capital punishment for money laundering and perjury...
More like treason.
Mekstizzle
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Plenty more politicians here and in the US that should go down for treason. China's the only country that has the balls to do it.
usmarine
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Mek-Izzle wrote:

Plenty more politicians here and in the US that should go down for treason.
Won't argue with that.
David.P
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So should i start with the Islam bashing?
KEN-JENNINGS
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usmarine2005 wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Interesting that you advocate capital punishment for money laundering and perjury...
More like treason.
Do tell me how being employed by a company legally amounts to treason?
FatherTed
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David.P wrote:

So should i start with the Islam bashing?
No, because it's becoming a little cliche.
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Use an umbrella
m3thod
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David.P wrote:

So should i start with the Islam bashing?
Congressman was a Muslim?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Interesting that you advocate capital punishment for money laundering and perjury...
More like treason.
Do tell me how being employed by a company legally amounts to treason?
Well the Treasury Department seems to think otherwise of that "charity"
KEN-JENNINGS
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usmarine2005 wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

More like treason.
Do tell me how being employed by a company legally amounts to treason?
Well the Treasury Department seems to think otherwise of that "charity"
The man consulted for the charity and laundered money and then lied about it.  He didn't donate any money to it, he actually lobbied the government to remove it from the list of terrorist fund raising organizations- something else the lawsuit is trying to prove (that it was in fact donating money used in terrorist planning or attacks).  There is no treason, simply perhaps a bad moral decision to work for a charity that among other activities is suspected of donating to a Taliban/Al Qaeda sympathizer.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-01-16 16:50:09)

David.P
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FatherTed wrote:

David.P wrote:

So should i start with the Islam bashing?
No, because it's becoming a little cliche.
Ya you're right.
Stingray24
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

The man consulted for the charity and laundered money and then lied about it.  He didn't donate any money to it, he actually lobbied the government to remove it from the list of terrorist fund raising organizations- something else the lawsuit is trying to prove (that it was in fact donating money used in terrorist planning or attacks).  There is no treason, simply perhaps a bad moral decision to work for a charity that among other activities is suspected of donating to a Taliban/Al Qaeda sympathizer.
Laundered money, lied, lobbied to get the organization removed from th list of terrorist fund raisers so the ring could send more than $130,000 to an al-Qaida and Taliban supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan.  Sounds like treason to me.  Lock n load.
Spark
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The US Constitution wrote:

Article III.

Section 3.


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
I think it counts as treason in this case.

Last edited by Spark (2008-01-16 17:47:43)

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usmarine2005 wrote:

"A former congressman and delegate to the United Nations was indicted Wednesday as part of a terrorist fundraising ring that allegedly sent more than $130,000 to an al-Qaida and Taliban supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan'

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080116/ap_ … n_indicted


I mean seriously.  This guy should be hanged.
I totally agree.
KEN-JENNINGS
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Spark wrote:

The US Constitution wrote:

Article III.

Section 3.


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
I think it counts as treason in this case.
Read the article.  He didn't give any aid.  He was hired as a consultant to lobby the U.S. government.  He is tied to the organization and lawsuit only in that he helped launder money then lied about it in legal depositions.

Money laundering and perjury does not equal treason.
Stingray24
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Money laundering isn't aid?
KEN-JENNINGS
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Read the article.  Do I really have to think for you too?
Turquoise
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Hmmm...  I believe this guy might be a good candidate for a permanent rendition, if you know what I mean...   Hopefully, he'll disappear and then we'll later find his head on a random hill in Albania.
Stingray24
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Read the article.  Do I really have to think for you too?
You agree he laundered money, yes?  I've been in the financial industry for 8 years in lending and managing accounts.  We have regulations in place to prevent money laundering because it is an incredibly serious crime in and of itself.  Knowing where the money went, the money laundering alone is treason.  Add on perjury and lobbying to get the organization off the terror support list only solidifies the case for treason.
KEN-JENNINGS
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It isn't clear that he knew where the money went.  From what the article describes, he knew the money was not allocated for payment to him, and agreed to conceal the fact that he knew that - hence the money laundering charge.  The fact that he lied in a legal deposition about this knowledge means he committed perjury.  Anything else that you describe about providing aid or knowing where the money went is simple speculation on your part.
David.P
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Spark wrote:

The US Constitution wrote:

Article III.

Section 3.


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
I think it counts as treason in this case.
Read the article.  He didn't give any aid.  He was hired as a consultant to lobby the U.S. government.  He is tied to the organization and lawsuit only in that he helped launder money then lied about it in legal depositions.

Money laundering and perjury does not equal treason.
Ken why are you defending him?

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